Considering that they seem to be targeting teenagers who are much more susceptible to to fads and hype, I agree.
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Steve Jobs on Lack of Firewire in MacBooks
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Considering that they seem to be targeting teenagers who are much more susceptible to to fads and hype, I agree.
Is a move to impulse shoppers and people with disposable incomes sustainable for Apple?
I'm in my early 20's, I just haven't really found a use for firewire on laptops i have owned, you guys are probably much older and would be in need of it. I understand y'all pain, there must be some sort of work around or no?
There's no workaround for Target Disk Mode. You're asking me to stop being a miracle worker.
Probably not in the medium to long term, especially since they're alienating their base to do it. In the short term though, they're making a killing.
I hate to say this but ever since I've bought my wireless 802.11n adapter for my Windows tower I've been using it a lot more. Sure I have Safari and iTunes for Windows but I find myself using my MacBook less and less.
I do take it on the road but everyone only seems to appreciate that it's a Mac and how "pretty" it looks. I bought my MacBook since I wanted a refined UNIX machine and a portable.
If Apple doesn't bring FireWire back onto the MacBook I don't see much of a reason to seek a replacement for it. It's an integral tool at work and I use my Canopus ADVC-110 in my spare time to make some cash. If I need another laptop I'll be looking at Dell Business again.
Take the hard drive out, put it in a USB 2.0 case, and boot it up on another Mac. For camcorders or firewire drives, you need new models. If you're a musician who uses a Macbook for its portability you either have to use much inferior USB versions or you SOL.
Nor is there are a workaround for the next-to-nothing latency, or the 11-to-24-25volts power (11 on MBP/PBs, 24-25volts on stationary equipment).
It has naught to do with age, but everything to do with you being part of the iPod crowd and see no need for anything but the latest iPod or consumer camera (if you like taking pictures). Hence you acknowledging you will be going MBA. However, your lack of needs (you could propably make do with the simplest of netbooks) doesn't mean any- and everyone can make do with such things.
Aren't we just repeating ourselves to the new users asking "Why would you ever need FireWire? I don't use it."
Yeah, I guess. But ignorance (in the purest sense of the word) annoys me. Especially when said ignorance is used to argue what he's arguing.
But you're right, of course.
It's not ignorance, it's just my opinion, how is that ignorant?
I think Apple's decision had a lot to do with trying to make more people buy the MBP, which is what most business do, they want to sell you the higher priced products because they make more money on it. I'm sure they studied where the market was going in terms of firewire and decided to drop it. It is a pure business move, I mean it's not like they decided to do it because they wanted to make all of you mad, it's a pure business move and also just where the general market is going.
From the in-built dictionary in OS X:
Unless you're saying that you know full well what FW can do that USB cannot, and why we want firewire, you're certainly uttering your opinion based on ignorance. However, if you truly do know all these things, then you're merely a troll. So, which is it?
Yes, I ignored the rest, as it's an argument to ONLY cater to one type of consumer: The fickle teenage iPod crowd. There is no need to counter that yet again. Especially considering how little validity it has.
I never said that, all I said is more people are familiar with USB and it's more common than USB right now, and that's the truth. I don't see the ignorance in that.
Dude I just don't get your point. What did I say that was ignorant. All I said was that USB was more common than firewire and more people knew of it, I don't see any ignorance in that statement.
You were saying something along the line that there was no need for firewire since most people were more accustomed to USB. That, my dear apologist (yes I skimmed your 25 apologetic posts), is an opinion based on ignorance.
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If that is not ignorance in the purest sense of the word – especially considering this is a thread with almost 2000 posts, which would give you a chance to actually do a little research, I don't know what is.
Can you debunk any of what I said?
- Is USB not more common that firewire?
- Are we not seeing less and less firewire enabled devices hence why I said there's a trend moving away from it?
- Most people are more familiar with USB than firewire?
Please show me what is ignorance with any of what I said, or maybe you are just choosing to see ignorance in my statement even though there is none.
BarcelonaApple maybe you should take a look at why we want FireWire again on the MacBook.
There isn't much of a reason to post in this thread if you're fine without FireWire. The same can be said of other users. The repetition is getting quite old.
There isn't much of a reason to post in this thread if you're fine without FireWire. The same can be said of other users. The repetition is getting quite old.
I don't think so. Just more USB stuff, flooding the market. Ignorant people, for instance, who don't know any better, will backup their mac/pc onto a USB hard disk. Even more ignorant people won't backup at all.
Ignorant just means a lack of knowledge about something. It's not aimed at you as an insult.
LOL, "debunk". Can you debunk the flying spaghetti monster?
Yes, but your argument is that because it's more widespread there is NO USE for firewire.
At least Apple are. But again, your argument is that there is NO USE for it because of that. In fact, you're claiming that because YOU have no need for it, noone else should.
Sigh … See above. This is getting tiresome.
I have already shown you. Your continued attempts to argue that there is no need for firewire for anyone, merely because you personally don't need, or because you're younger[!!!] than us, and so on, is, as mentioned, true ignorance, showing how little you know of firewire and USB, and the limitations of both - especially limitations of USB.
Or maybe you're just a troll, dead set on "proving" that Apple can do no wrong. I especially liked your post about the MBA not having any problems with watching youtube videos, calling the bloke a liar.
Its a bit different with Macs than your average windows PC. They don't have target disk mode.
Well to me calling someone ignorant is insulting them.
You just proved my point, there are more USB enabled devices out on the market, so the market is moving away from firewire. People buying the USB devices aren't doing so because of ignorance, they are doing so because it's more readily available and also the price.
So only people who agree with y'all can post on this thread, what sort of world would we live in if we didn't have no disagreements every once in awhile, the world would never be able to move forward.
I didn't call you ignorant. I said what you said was ignorance *I even added a "in the purest sense of the word". Secondly, when you failed to understand that, I copy/pasted the dictionary's definition of "ignorance", but once again, you failed to read that.
Logical leap. yawn.
LOL, because of "price"? You just argued in another thread that if people wanted the best (i.e. Apple in your book) they could save up for it. Now, all of a sudden, price means something? So with the nixing of firewire, the MB has sudddenly become cheaper?
Maybe you can pay the difference if I have to buy a MacBook Pro in order to get FireWire on my next Mac laptop.So only people who agree with y'all can post on this thread, what sort of world would we live in if we didn't have no disagreements every once in awhile, the world would never be able to move forward.
I need FireWire on my laptop. I guess you expect me to spend more money for this though when it was on the MacBook and iBook.
So only people who agree with y'all can post on this thread, what sort of world would we live in if we didn't have no disagreements every once in awhile, the world would never be able to move forward.
We can have disagreements. It just becomes tiresome having to restate everything all over again, because some people can't be bothered doing just a tad of research and at least read SOME of the thread. That gets old quite quickly, and the only reason you were asked to consider not posting in this thread is that it brings nothing to the discussion as your entire argument is that because you don't need FW (and can make do with an MBA), everyone else should be able to, not taking the specs of firewire into consideration or even that not everyone do as little as you on a computer.