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So what. Be nice on your own damn time. Creation, change, and progress is the name of the game in Jobs' world. he was not a humanitarian, never pretended to be one, and consumers sure as **** didn't give a damn. That wasn't the point of his existence or his own personal mission in life.


You don't need to agree with everything. Just stick to what counts: the big picture.


I'm sure Beethoven was a huge, raging, deaf arsehole.

But that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of his achievements, now does it? No, he doesn't get a pass, he's just judged by different standards. That privilege is earned.

My dog, who is very nice, has not earned that privilege. So he needs to keep being nice.



Once in a while it rains in the desert. But it's still a desert.

I would expect nothing less from you LTD. Your post sickens me.
 
Just one more thing!

I'm surprised nobody's done a resurrection joke in a cartoon where Steve Jobs rolls back the stone to his tomb and says "There's just ONE MORE THING..."

as sort of a statement of how revered he is by making a christ comparison...

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I bought the hard copy on Amazon... can't wait to read it!
 
I take those passages lightly as it's very easy to reflect and have 20/20 vision in hindsight once everything has been connected along the way. Even Isaacson himself said in intro that there's a possibility of reality distortion taking effect - and this is one area that it's really hard to take at work in its entirety.

I don't disagree, but I've known people that just seemed to know things, even though they couldn't explain it. Even jokingly called them "Radar" like the character in the TV show MASH.

Maybe it was hindsight, but it wouldn't surprise me to know he did have a sense of what was coming. After all, he certainly had that skill with product lines.
 
Can't decide whether to buy it and read it on my ipad or get the printed version. What would Steve want?

What would Steve want? To not die so he wouldn't have needed the &#$*& book to be written ;)

Biographies should be about old guys who died, not young ones. But such is life, so unfair for people with so much left yet to die so young.
 
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I'm surprised nobody's done a resurrection joke in a cartoon where Steve Jobs rolls back the stone to his tomb and says "There's just ONE MORE THING..."

as sort of a statement of how revered he is by making a christ comparison...

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I bought the hard copy on Amazon... can't wait to read it!

The jokes should have/would have come 3 days after his death :)
 
anyone who hasn't bought it yet, get it from the iBooks Store. I think that's pretty obvious. In fact I'm amazed Steve Jobs didn't negotiate Amazon out of the deal, at least the digital sales part. They released it early just to kill sales on iBooks. Amazon doesn't bother playing by the rules.

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I'm surprised nobody's done a resurrection joke in a cartoon where Steve Jobs rolls back the stone to his tomb and says "There's just ONE MORE THING..."

as sort of a statement of how revered he is by making a christ comparison...

You're the guy to do it, man. pencil to paper.
 
I don't feel sorry that Jobs slagged on a bunch of nitwits and boring, generic box-makers. It is ridiculously obvious that they were holding consumer tech back, and would still be doing it were it not for Apple.
If it weren't for all those "boring, generic box-makers" selling less expensive hardware to average consumers who exactly would be supplying computers for folks who can't afford to spend $1,000 on their next computer? When I was a child many schools chose to spend their technology budgets on only a few Apple computers instead of many commodity computers from other venders. I'm sure by having far less time on a slightly fancier computer our education benefited greatly.
 
Well, Gates sat back and watched Jobs do all the work on GUI before ripping it off.

Then he watched Schmidt hoover up ideas from iPhone before quitting the Apple board and reporting the ideas back to Google who would implement most of them into the recently purchased Android framework.

He's quite right to be bitter towards these guys, because they ripped off his ideas. There's no denying that. And before someone brings up Xerox, don't forget that Xerox had a GUI but no idea what to do with it, no plans for it, nothing. It was Steve who seen it in action and seen the future of home computing and done the hard part assembling the team to make it a home user experience. And then along came Gates and ripped it off.

Regardless of who copied who I will go on a limb and say this, though it will be unpopular. It took Apple YEARS to get a viable GUI operating system. It wasn't until OSX before it became palatable for type typical business user. To use Steve's own words, it was more of a "hobby" operating system. You can say anything you want about stability, speed, etc but those of us that had to on a limited basis (since it was rarely used) in the corporate world absolutely hated it. It worked great as a standalone machine, but was terrible on a network, particularly in a mixed environment. I had the misfortune of having a lot of public school system clients back in the days before OSX and the Mac OS was a joke.

IMO, the only reason why OSX is what it is today is the UNIX underpinnings (particularly BSD) that make it what it is. Yeah the GUI has come a long long ways, but the success is mostly due to the UNIX underneath. There's still a lot of Apple idiosyncrocies here and there, but they're acceptable due to the rock solid platform in which Apple built the OS on.

Apple is an outstanding hardware company. Their attention to detail is amazing. It almost brings a tear to your eye. As a software company they're marginal. Heck, they can't even get the damn multiple Apple ID issues situated. They also commonly leave out the most very basic of functions in their software. This is what has kept them out (relatively speaking) of the corporate world all these years. I give Jobs all the credit in the world for his hardware... software -not so much.
 
So what. Be nice on your own damn time. Creation, change, and progress is the name of the game in Jobs' world. he was not a humanitarian, never pretended to be one, and consumers sure as **** didn't give a damn. That wasn't the point of his existence or his own personal mission in life. You don't need to agree with everything. Just stick to what counts: the big picture. I'm sure Beethoven was a huge, raging, deaf arsehole. But that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of his achievements, now does it? No, he doesn't get a pass, he's just judged by different standards. That privilege is earned. My dog, who is very nice, has not earned that privilege. So he needs to keep being nice.
You seem to enjoy blunt arrogance, so I'm sure you'll appreciate it when I ask what on earth you've done to earn anybody's respect? So far as I can tell you're not a maven or revolutionary of any sort. More than anything you come across as a sad little troll who lashes out at anything you don't understand.
 
Can't decide whether to buy it and read it on my ipad or get the printed version. What would Steve want?

Like Tim Cook said, Steve's answer would be "Don't ask what Steve would have done. Follow your own voice".
 
My dog, who is very nice, has not earned that privilege. So he needs to keep being nice.

WTF??? :eek::confused: It's a DOG, it's an animal that is dependant on YOU TO KEEP IT ALIVE! What the hell has it got to do with Steve Jobs attitude? What a stupid comment....
A dog NEVER has to earn YOUR respect or privilege for ANYTHING, you have to earn THE DOGS Respect AND any privilege's! I'm actually concerned how you treat your dog now... :eek::mad: Should we be calling animal cruelty protection on you?
 
But that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of his achievements, now does it? No, he doesn't get a pass, he's just judged by different standards. That privilege is earned.

Here's the problem, LTD. Being a "genius" while still being a jerk is TOLERATED. Just like Atari tolerated the fact that Jobs didn't use soap and shower and when everyone complained, they switched him to the night shift. Others being tolerant is not the same as someone being deserving or privileged.

See - one is about others being better human beings. The other is about someone being ego centric and selfish.

That doesn't diminish his accomplishments. It just diminishes the respect one has for how he got them done.

I shudder to think if you ever became a parent or a teacher and how you would raise a child. Would you tell them that as long as you think you are right and know better than everyone else - it's ok to treat them like garbage?
 
I like when people really believe those things

And I find it amusing when idiots believe that Gates was the man who brought the GUI to home computing. I also find it amusing that people can't see that Schmidt sat on the Apple board like a mole during the iPhone development.
 
And I find it amusing when idiots believe that Gates was the man who brought the GUI to home computing. I also find it amusing that people can't see that Schmidt sat on the Apple board like a mole during the iPhone development.

If Jobs and Apple didn't have a problem nor accuse Schmidt of wrong doing - why can't you let it go?

You think with Apple's litigious nature that if there was any reason to suspect Schmidt that they wouldn't have sued.

Do yourself a favor. Get over it.
 
If Jobs and Apple didn't have a problem nor accuse Schmidt of wrong doing - why can't you let it go?

You think with Apple's litigious nature that if there was any reason to suspect Schmidt that they wouldn't have sued.

Do yourself a favor. Get over it.

First, the only person needing to get over anything, is you. Climb on down from that high horse and quit talking down to people. You, as an end user, are as factually correct as I am ... we have opinions, but we don't know the ins and outs directly.

However, in the book Jobs refers to Android as "Grand Theft", so while Apple nor Jobs never publicly said they had a problem with Schmidt, you can be damn sure there was at least a hint of a grudge at his ideas being knocked off by someone from within.
 
And I find it amusing when idiots believe that Gates was the man who brought the GUI to home computing. I also find it amusing that people can't see that Schmidt sat on the Apple board like a mole during the iPhone development.

So what if Apple was the one that brought the GUI to home computing, Microsoft was the one that took off from it.

Seems a bit childish that you seem to think because <x> did it first means they are some how better than the rest of the competition.

In that case IBM is better than Apple, Nokia, RIM or Samsung because they invented the Smart phone concept first! :sarcasm:
 
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