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Steve Jobs Posts 'Thoughts on Flash' Open Letter
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It's a very powerful word a long with "fanboy" ... so powerful it can win you an argument in one sentence.
Admittedly I know very little about Objective C, but I have an impression that people are starting to use it more not because they like it but because they have to. The language was available from 1986 (including support from open source compilers) and it went nowhere until iPhone showed up. This contrasts very much with the story of languages that people do like - languages like C, C++, Java, Python and even Perl (which I personally hate
). The story of Objective C reminds more of the stories of other niche languages (functional languages - Haskell, Scheme etc. Smalltalk variety of object oriented languages and so on). BTW, you mentioned the use of named arguments as one advantage of Objective C. It think this is one has become rather irrelevant these days. In a well written code, the names of variables and constants provide all information you need anyways but more importantly when you use modern development tools (like Visual Studio) they provide instant information about all object methods and their parameters. They even auto-complete the stuff you type So the fact that there are probably more people using C# than people using all other languages combined is irrelevant? There is not that much going on outside Windows these days in general (mobile platforms obviously are changing the situation somewhat but a lot of development there is very amateurish so the real numbers are hard to come by).
I agree with Steve. The industry really needs to be moving away from Flash and he is giving it a subtle push in that direction. People have really misunderstood what the argument is all about. The web is completely viable in a world without Flash which is a proprietary free web plugin mostly used for web advertising. You do not need it for video, you do not need it for games. It is simply a free browser plugin. People don't normally chose to use it but very often it gets preinstalled by the pc manufacturers. Also since alot of websites have relied on ad banners to make money over the last several years, they appear to be 'broken' when flash is not installed on the browser. It is almost like choosing to watch commercials or choosing to have a root canal. Its not exactly pleasurable and you probably wouldn't do it if you didn't have to. And with HTML 5, we are closer to this. If you argue that you want choice, you should be choosing to use HTML 5 whenever possible.
Has anyone mentioned yet the following related change on the web?
I've said for a long time that if Jobs wants to push HTML5, then he needs to help get his buddies at Disney to switch from being totally based on Flash.
I went to Disney.com on my iPod touch... and hello!
Disney has created what appears to be an iPhone oriented website without Flash.
How long has that been there?
I've said for a long time that if Jobs wants to push HTML5, then he needs to help get his buddies at Disney to switch from being totally based on Flash.
I went to Disney.com on my iPod touch... and hello!
Disney has created what appears to be an iPhone oriented website without Flash.
How long has that been there?
So your reason for preferring flash is because it is more annoying and attracts attention. Do you make a living with annoying flash ads.
Because otherwise that is a fairly bizarre reason.
Flash adverts just don't attract my attention. Part of my earnings come from the advertisement industry.
Well, flash advertiser with a clear bias like that, I think I safely ignore your input to the discussion.
I didn't finish - as a publisher. My users seem not to have any issues with the ads, even Flash ones.
He may simply have ads in his apps - not necessarily an advertiser. And his bias is no worse than the bias of someone who wants free stuff with no ads.
We all have biases.
Perhaps because they do as I do and block flash (you have know way of knowing because flashblock still loads the content, it just hides it).
Perhaps I should have guessed from your annoying multi-color sig that you were a flash advertiser. Anyway sick of seeing your annoying sig, so to ignore you go, blocked, just like I block annoying flash.
PeterQVenkman said:
That was nothing but a freetard rant. And gruber did respond.
Jobs never said H.264 was a free standard. He said it was an open standard. Not all open standards are free.
Sullivan is more or less arguing the FSF party line, that both Apple and Adobe are unethical because both are promoting things that arent free-as-in-freedom. Thats great. So what mobile phone should an FSF devotee buy? Good luck with that.
Ironic. Apple was lazy in borrowing open source (FreeBSD) to be the core of OS X. They wouldn't even buy BeOS, a platform that - at the time - mopped the floor with Windows and Linux. I know, I was an early adopter and was crushed when Be went under...
Though when I say the old line about casting stones, I'm not perfect either...
And HTML5 isn't even a proper standard yet. It'll become de facto, but how all the browser developers end up "tweaking" it for their benefit remains to be seen.
The question was why do you prefer broken flash to having an html5 ad? Both can be equally obtrusive or unobtrusive.
Can't block html5
Luckily, html5 ads aren't very popular yet, so we have some time for blocking tools can be developed. Theoretically, we should have much better control over html5 content than we do with Flash content.But that doesn't seem to be ct2k7's point.
Lemme guess - you also don't want to pay for content either. Ad supported sites provide the content that you consume, the least you could do is give them the courtesy of counting you in as an ad impression, even if you don't click-thru. Do you also use cracked software?
While I understand your point, flash ads slow down or cause stuttering in at least my system, and sometimes crash my browser. I'm happy to look at ads that behave, but by using Flash, advertisers are asking to be blocked, at least on my system. I would never use an ad blocker, but I do block Flash.
Another awesome, must see, video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVjIsL8qwNw
Again, it deals with REALITY and how things actually are rather than how things "might be" or could be in 5 years time...
Must watch! Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVjIsL8qwNw
Again, it deals with REALITY and how things actually are rather than how things "might be" or could be in 5 years time...
Must watch! Enjoy
Just like Xcode does....but more importantly when you use modern development tools (like Visual Studio) they provide instant information about all object methods and their parameters. They even auto-complete the stuff you type
The stats don't seem to suggest so - however, what I continuously do is generate stats from Mac users to correlate information about the ads and the Flash ads. So far, I've reduced the Flash to normal ad ration for Mac users - the advertiser's anger.
Can't block html5
But that doesn't seem to be ct2k7's point.
This.