Who is that?
Jobs himself said he almost died waiting for his transplant, which is why he is helping the push for more organ donors:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/22/steve-jobs-liver-transpla_n_507956.html
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Steve Jobs Ranked World's 110th Richest Person With Net Worth of $8.3 Billion
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Who is that?
Jobs himself said he almost died waiting for his transplant, which is why he is helping the push for more organ donors:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/22/steve-jobs-liver-transpla_n_507956.html
While none of us (except the turtlenecked guy and his accountants, if they're reading) know what Jobs' charitable contributions are, he did miss one chance to leave a legacy to Silicon Valley.
In 1984, Jobs bought a stunning, historical mansion in the foothills above Silicon Valley - the Jackling House, a 14,540-square-foot, 14-bedroom home designed by a famous architect.
Whereas other wealthy people have left significant homes for the public (Villa Montalvo and Filoli in the immediate area, for example), Jobs decided that he wanted to build something shinier.
Therefore, instead of leaving a legacy for the region, an architectural gem has been
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What a petty, selfish act - when a small fraction of his wealth could have left the "Jobs-Jackling House" as an enduring legacy.
That "mansion" had little historical significance and was a dilapidated mess - happy it was torn down - Steve bought the lot to build on - nothing selfish there.
Clearly he had to be lying during that interview. After all, he's greedy and evil and hasn't solved world hunger, so why would we expect him to tell the truth?
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Did I miss the part where he said how long he waited? Because even if he waited a day he "almost died". The guy was dying of course!
Never said he was evil but he is pretty damn arrogant and greedy. His history supports that.
What's the hurry? Many of the biggest charities in the world were founded by the estates of some very very rich people (and/or their children). And nobody lives forever. Consider them all as part of a very long term savings and investment plan for some eventual really big charitable needs that aren't sufficiently funded by everybody else.
But there is proof.
Go to the symphony/opera/ballet in a big city: SF, LA, NY, Chicago, Boston, wherever. Read the program while you're waiting for the performance to start or during the intermission. There are multiple anonymous six-figure and seven-figure donors listed in the program. Every single season.
Move the goalposts all you want but your "virtually overnight" comment is clearly wrong. He wasn't able to simply snap his fingers and get the liver.
Not all of them at once, as suggested in this thread. The number of times a person with billions of dollars value in one company has sold billions of dollars of value in that company can be counted on one hand. I don't know what the market would do, they would freak.
One quote from the link in the first post says it all:
Petty. Selfish.
A few million from Jobs' stash of billions could have saved the mansion for a public legacy. But it's been destroyed.
There were a lot of people arguing for the historical significance of the property - so saying it had "little significance" is just parroting Jobs' argument.
Yeah. Stunningly ugly.
Easy to opine about what's worth saving when you don't have to pay for its eternal preservation.
The Jackling House was built there because a very rich man decided it was a great place to build what he thought was a very nice house.
After him, another very rich man decided it was a great place to build what he thinks is a very nice house.
Land is a limited resource. Average land per person is about 5.3 acres. We can't just mark areas off limits just because someone deems it "special"; sure, some are more than others, but the Jackling House just doesn't really cut it. Hey, YOU didn't care about it until Jobs wanted to tear it down, right? and that because it was Jobs, not just anyone?
I did read what the guy was responding to, and it still stands. Living through Steve as if Steve is he.
And then you went off to talk about stuff that I wasn't talking about, about Jobs not reading letters, etc, as if I was the one who had a problem with it.
What logic leads you to believe that crossing the meaningless (at that wealth) boundary from being a millionaire to a billionaire makes one inclined to suddenly stop giving? If anything the billionaire would think less of giving away six or seven figure sums, and it makes for a great tax write off as well.
I noticed how you glanced over the "alleged" claim coming from the group trying to save the home. But hey, guilty until proven innocent if it fits your viewpoint right?
They probably are billionaire donations. The people who have a net worth of a billion-plus dollars don't have billions in cash flow.
Their fortunes are typically from investment and property holdings. Steve is valued at $8.3 billion, but his annual cash flow is probably more like $40 million (largely from Disney dividends). Hence a $1 million donation would be 2.5% of his annual income.
From Disney's and Apple's SEC filings, we know that Steve isn't actively trading his shares. He does not get compensated by Disney for sitting on their board (they actually had to change their by-laws on non-executive directors to accommodate his request); he draws $1 in annual salary from Apple. While his valuation will increase as share prices go up, those are unrealized capital gains until he sells. It's money on paper, not in the bank.
No, he owes you nothing. You gave him that tiny slice because you thought it worthwhile (heck, enough so you're posting here). The exchange was fair in both directions.
Persuade a billion people to give you a dollar, and do so in a manner where most of them are happy with the exchange, and you'll end up with a billion dollars - and you won't "owe them" anything because it was a mutually fair trade.
An emoticon would have helped, I really thought you were serious.
I like to be subtle. Sometimes.
I think I remember pictures of Steve with Bill Gates inside that mansion.While none of us (except the turtlenecked guy and his accountants, if they're reading) know what Jobs' charitable contributions are, he did miss one chance to leave a legacy to Silicon Valley.
In 1984, Jobs bought a stunning, historical mansion in the foothills above Silicon Valley - the Jackling House, a 14,540-square-foot, 14-bedroom home designed by a famous architect.
Whereas other wealthy people have left significant homes for the public (Villa Montalvo and Filoli in the immediate area, for example), Jobs decided that he wanted to build something shinier.
Therefore, instead of leaving a legacy for the region, an architectural gem has been
(click to enlarge)
What a petty, selfish act - when a small fraction of his wealth could have left the "Jobs-Jackling House" as an enduring legacy.
Just read about it on his wikipedia page. Really seems like an ******* move, the fact that he agreed to let a year pass to see if anyone was interested in moving it, and there were people interested in moving it to another spot and he basically killed it for them.
I would hope all of you/us on Macrumors are apple shareholders. You get to own a piece of the company you/we all love. I'd be confused if you/we spent all our time obsessing about this company and this man and not own shares of the company.
With that said all of us better hope to god Steve Jobs never sells any of his Apple Stock. Steve is apple so you don't want him selling any shares.
That $8+B will go somplace. it's not going to vanish into thin air. I'd put a decent size bet that a big chunk goes to a worthy cause.
On his larger holding Disnery stock. Like I said before when you own stock like disney you don't sell it. Also Steve risked a lot to get Pixar to where it became mega valuable. He could have lost a boat load if it didn't pan out. He can do what he wants with that money. It wasn't handed to him. He didn't win it.
With that said all of us better hope to god Steve Jobs never sells any of his Apple Stock. Steve is apple so you don't want him selling any shares.
That $8+B will go somplace. it's not going to vanish into thin air. I'd put a decent size bet that a big chunk goes to a worthy cause.
On his larger holding Disnery stock. Like I said before when you own stock like disney you don't sell it. Also Steve risked a lot to get Pixar to where it became mega valuable. He could have lost a boat load if it didn't pan out. He can do what he wants with that money. It wasn't handed to him. He didn't win it.
Frankly, I would say the exact same thing about 99% of the forumites here. Difference? $8b. People are people.
It's interesting that you spend most of your posts here picking apart minute details to find errors and assumptions in others' posts, and call them on it. But when it comes to Steve, you make the assumptions. What did he do to you?
Personally, I can't say I care one way or another. Not that I'm asking for him to die of his issues, but it just doesn't impact my life when he's sick, or donating, or not sick, or not donating.