The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
Now, are you gonna answer my question or just hide behind another not-so-clever comeback?
Prove it. And then you'll just have a few hundred thousand more charities to go before your claim is verified.
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Prove it. And then you'll just have a few hundred thousand more charities to go before your claim is verified.
The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
Now, are you gonna answer my question or just hide behind another not-so-clever comeback?
I don't think you get it - How do you know Steve has never donated to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation?
It was amusing the first time we sent the same response to this guy, a few seconds apart - It was equally amusing the second time around.
The RED program. You know that pesky program to assist those with AIDS. Now then do you have a clever response or will it be cricket, which I am sure you meant crickets
Windows hurt people? How?
If you are gonna say by putting others out of business... then what is Apple doing?
You are a funny boy.
While I think it is nice to give, I also think that everybody has a right to do with THEIR money what THEY want.
They made it. They decide this very personal issue!
Imagine somebody tells you: Hey, you have enough money, time to donate!
All the posters who claim he doesn't donate anything to charity, PLEASE back up your statements!
Get his tax return and let's take a look.
If you can't do that, you have no point!
As for being involved in charity: Done right, that is like running another company. I'd rather have him spend his energy and time at Apple.
Wish I was # 111 or even last place
This is public information. The wife works in the area of researching companies and individuals for the fundraising departments of universities, private schools, and non-profit organizations. Steve Jobs is ranked as one of the worst billionaires for his non-existent philanthropic efforts. His net worth is public info. along with what his house is worth and where he has donated (which is nowhere).
As for sources, there are many. The most recent article I can find online dates back only one year:
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/01/70072
http://philanthropy.com/blogs/social-philanthropy/is-apple-anti-charity/24565
The only time he seems interested in charitable work is when it benefitted himself: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-steve-jobs-got-sick-2010-04.
That would have been a great opportunity for him to speak on organ transplants. Instead, he shopped around for his own liver. Read that last article to see what I mean. Ok, the article shows that he worked tirelessly to get a bill passed through the State legislature. But, he never comments on charitable work.
Steve Jobs is many things, but make no illusions; He is not a philanthropist. As for criticizing individuals for how much they give, if you make lots of money you sure as hell better expect to be scrutinized for what you give back. With local and Federal government reducing funding for social programs, everyone is claiming that the wealthy will pick up the slack.
In fact, that's exactly where organizations are turning. The problem is that less and less wealthy individuals are contributing less and less money. The research is also clear that the more you make, the lower the percentage of money you donate. This becomes ridiculously apparent for the top 1 percent.
Red iPods (marketing angle) with a small percentage of sales going to charity. That's the best you have?
Maybe Steve should have donated to your dangling participle fund.
Actually, this is public information. The money he invests, his net worth, where he invests, etc. is all available. That is how Fortune magazine can make their lists each year.
There are a few slight difference between Bill and Steve, I'm not sure anyone has noticed. I'll point out a few surface ones:
1. Bill is retired, and has nothing better to do with his time
2. Steve is working full time (I'm betting over 40 hours a week) and when he's not, he's out sick with something more than a cold.
3. Bill has 5 times more "worth", and I'm betting he has a multiple higher than 5 more liquid cash then Steve.
4. Steve has at least half his "networth" tied up in Disney. He can't just donate disney to Sinegal
He also can't sell off all the stock and keep a vote in the company.
5. Bill gates has seen nothing but success, and a lot of it. Steve has seen his companies (what he devotes his life to) sink and rise. His journey has in no way been easy. I would not doubt that such a person would be careful with their money while still on their "journey", but once the journey is over give it away.
Wait until Steve retires to compare him to Bill. Steven will have more time, and will have no reason to keep stock in a company, and can sell it for something that is easier to donate.
No, if anyone has actually seen Steve jobs pass by girl scouts begging for a $5 sale while he sorts and sniffs a large wad of cash, then I'll think a little less of him.
In the end though, I know that *I* have personally spent my money on things I don't need to, and I know that *I* have enough money to spare to make a dramatic difference in ONE persons life. And yet I've failed to make that difference. So I'm not about to give someone I don't know (even if I'd recognize him on the street) crap for not publicly giving away money.
It's also worth noting that there is at least one religion out there that says that donations should be done privately and without public display. That way the donation is done because they want to help, vs wanting to be popular or cool.
Which one can tell the best lie when the co screws up?
Red iPods (marketing angle) with a small percentage of sales going to charity. That's the best you have?
Maybe Steve should have donated to your dangling participle fund.
I have so much more. However, it appears no matter how much is written you will not be able to process it. On a side note he gave money to that fund, not just a the iPod product. You will not see that because
1. He does not need YOUR validation
2. He does not brag about what he feels is the right thing to do.
Now I will ask you. What you you done that is so impressive that you feel the right to target someone who has worked and earned all the money he now has.
Steve's charitable contribution is his employees free time. He can't even offer outdated computers to needy schools, only some cheesy discount.
I'm not saying he is obligated to donate. But his legacy will only be one of flashy gadgets and unboxing videos.
I'm not saying he is obligated to donate. But his legacy will only be one of flashy gadgets and unboxing videos.
Well. What a nice anecdotal post full of prejudice. So while you are whining about those pesky evil things Bill did, you are applauding Apple's current direction of evil decision *cough walled garden ecosystem* *cough micro-transactions nailed into the OS* Talk about hypocrisy.
OTOH who are we to judge? Me, I merely donate money but am doing something more useful with my money. I try to life a rather balanced life and would even more if I could afford it. My little baby steps to a better world are:
- use of regenerative energy at home and in my business (yes you can go green if you want to)
- buy as much organic food as possible
- buy as much regional products as possible
- whenever I need imported goods like coffee I try to buy FairTrade labeled
If you'd do the same and encourage and educate people to follow your suit the planet would be much better off than
relying on charity by the rich.
The funny thing is that --just as I did-- this article asserts that he may be donating anonymously. He is notoriously secretive about his private life. Heck, look at how much information he disclosed about his health.
We know Steve has a very finely developed appreciation of aesthetics. We know that Steve likes music. We know his wife has a heavy focus in education.
I will reiterate that SF Bay Area arts organizations have multiple anonymous donors, even at the highest levels.
Steve isn't a schmoozer, a partygoer like the Gettys, Schwabs, and other folks who grace the society pages. His personality fits quite well with a well-heeled anonymous donor. Steve doesn't need to do anything he doesn't want to. If he doesn't want to fend off questions about how/why he donates money, he can remain anonymous.
Remember, he doesn't need to work. He makes $30 million a year in Disney dividends; he could just sit on a beach and read a book.
i presume that its the US billion?..1000x1,000000?.....are there any true billionaires???...1,000000 x 1,000000...?...lol
Are we just ignoring the difference between being convicted of illegal business practices and Apple's "walled garden"?
Steve's charitable contribution is his employees free time. He can't even offer outdated computers to needy schools, only some cheesy discount.
I'm not saying he is obligated to donate. But his legacy will only be one of flashy gadgets and unboxing videos.
Computers for "needy" schools will never resolve the problems these schools face. Better teachers, more parents being involved will. Computers in schools become abused, or stolen. Computers will not be the answer to fix our educational system. Why does it work in Africa, because they never had computer and the special laptops will get them up to speed and a fighting chance. Computers are everywhere here.
There is something seriously wrong with someone who sits on an Apple-centric site, complaining that the person responsible for many of the things that caused them to seek out the site to begin with, hasn't done anything worthwhile to make a difference in the world. I have a feeling that the people who love this man (and there are people who do - family, friends, and so on) would tell you to kiss their *****.
As rich as he is and as public a figure as he is, he's still a human being and has a right to live his life as he wishes without being demonized for it. Unless you run around telling everyone you meet that they are wasting their lives because they aren't solving the world's ills, or aren't doing so in a manner that meets your approval?
For that matter, how much are you doing to make a difference? Couldn't the time and money you spent in the 15 minutes you probably spent in this thread have been put to use to benefit mankind in some way? Writing to your representatives? Buying Happy Meals for the homeless? Something?
Gosh that selfish Jobs and his stingy Apple company... imagine that... not giving away free outdated computers even though you (or whoever) wrote them a letter! I guess they can take that worthless community service and shove it where the sun don't shine. Am I right, or am I right?
and an ego to match.
Say what you will about Microsoft and Gates, but he does offer up a lot of his money and time to charities (including establishing his own). it is a shame $teve doesn't share that same enthusiasm for helping his fellow man, but in the end he's more concerned with running a tight ship and checking his bank account each night. But hey.. people seem to still love him and his products, so being selfish and egotistical does pay off.
I'll be buying an ipad2 tomorrow, along with others, in a bid to get him at least in the top 100 before he croaks. YOU CAN DO IT STEVE!!!
You know what? **** you, as well as all the others echoeing your post. How the HELL do you know how much Steve gives or doesn't give to charity? You have absolutely no idea. Some people don't make a song and dance about it, so all you're doing is assuming, in a rather idiotic and simplistic manner. I constantly donate to many charities, do you know how many of my friends/family know about it, or how much I give? Absolutely nobody. I don't go out of my way to advertise or make public that I give- and why should I? So I can get praise? I've given thousands, yet nobody knows, and thats the way I like it. I do it out of my own conscience, not for the approval of others. The other day I waited till nobody was looking, and slipped a $100 bill into a coin jar for charity. I've given tens of thousands, but nobody who knows me can tell you that. So how the hell can all of you sit there and condemn someone with so much certainty that he doesn't give? It's pretty disgusting.
Same goes for the people in this thread telling Steve what he 'should do' because of his sickness, ie. 'he should be spending time with family'. Again, who the hell are you to make presumptions and dictate how he should spend his time? How do you know how much time he's spending with his family? Maybe he's spending quite a bit. He's obviously still involved with Apple because he sincerely loves it and wants to be. Maybe thats even healthier for him than sitting at home and feeling sorry for himself, or putting himself on deathwatch. There's such a sickening amount of hubris on this board, where people try to pass judgement while having almost nil inside knowledge on the situation.
Oh, and there's a ton of filthy rich people in this world who dont deserve it, having screwed many people to get there while being involved in nasty and shady practises. I believe Steve deserves his wealth, considering he lead and continues to lead a company to become the most valuable and recognizable in the world, producing products that people actually want and love, and indirectly creating billions in secondary industries to maintain these products, while being considered the most effective CEO in existence.He's at least worth his salt and his personal wealth is a drop in the ocean compared to the money he's made others. There's many people richer than him who have driven companies into the ground and have been rewarded with golden parachutes for doing so.
Have some ****ing perspective.