Steve Jobs Ranked World's 110th Richest Person With Net Worth of $8.3 Billion

[Thunderhawks]

Steve's charitable contribution is his employees free time. He can't even offer outdated computers to needy schools, only some cheesy discount.

I'm not saying he is obligated to donate. But his legacy will only be one of flashy gadgets and unboxing videos.

Flashy gadgets and unboxing videos haha.

And you will be remembered for?

The letter proves nothing. I bet there are plenty of others that did get FREE stuff. I am too lazy to look it up.

One of the problems with giving donations and FREE stuff is that the word gets around and you get inundated with requests for more.

I used to give to MADD and they seemingly spent my money (At least it felt like it) to keep on writing me for more, making me feel bad with the way they worded their letters. I couldn't even get off their mailing list despite asking.

Same for many others.

So, the way I donate now is I send them whatever and if I only get a thank you and a once a year "update of what we did with your money" letter, they get more.

Everything else goes in the garbage.

 

[ctdonath]

He's a billionaire, but dresses in clothes that are too big for him and has no fashion sense whatsoever.

Millionaires dress in expensive classy suits etc.
Billionaires dress however they darn well want.

(The percentage of the latter who wear flannel shirts, jeans, etc. all the time is amazing.)

 

[Gaelinic]

The funny thing is that --just as I did-- this article asserts that he may be donating anonymously. He is notoriously secretive about his private life. Heck, look at how much information he disclosed about his health.

We know Steve has a very finely developed appreciation of aesthetics. We know that Steve likes music. We know his wife has a heavy focus in education.

I will reiterate that SF Bay Area arts organizations have multiple anonymous donors, even at the highest levels.

Steve isn't a schmoozer, a partygoer like the Gettys, Schwabs, and other folks who grace the society pages. His personality fits quite well with a well-heeled anonymous donor. Steve doesn't need to do anything he doesn't want to. If he doesn't want to fend off questions about how/why he donates money, he can remain anonymous.

Remember, he doesn't need to work. He makes $30 million a year in Disney dividends; he could just sit on a beach and read a book.

That is one article that speculates he may be donating anonymously. However, everyone else doubts that very much. There is little evidence to suggest that billionaires ever donate anonymously. They are always convinced of the benefit of donating publicly. Some here may claim that that Bill or others donate as some sort of public show. But the the evidence in the field demonstrates that donating publicly highlights the cause and encourages more donation.

Jobs found a cause when he had to find a liver. He highlighted the cause by getting behind a bill to encourage more donors. He is only private until he finds something he believes in. That something just happened to be self-serving.

 

[koruki]

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I respect Bill for what he does. Honestly, I don't think Gates cares about being the richest in the world.

Jobs on the other hand, has huge ego problems. Watching the event on the iPhone antennae problem said a lot about him.

I love Apple and their products, but Jobs' need to be more active in giving back. Heck, we are the ones getting you rich.

I agree that I've gain must more respect for Bill in recent years but to lets not forget what Steve is good at, and that's moving the industry forward.

Steve is Apple more than Bill was Microsoft. If he wanted to, he could walk out make a new company using another fruit name and all the talent will follow him and within a year or two he wouldn't just own shares, he'd own as much of the company as Bill and we'll see that if Steve cared, he'd be the richest person in the world looking at Apples success in the last few years. So as you can see its pretty obvious Steve is not doing any of stuff he's done in the last few years for money.

After D8 it was pretty clear that Steve and Bill get along fine, for all we know they might have sat over lunch and agreed Bill would go save the world while Steve would go change the world.

 

[xIGmanIx]

i love all the folks that rush to "defend" jobs when he probably wouldn't take the time of day to shake your hand. If you don't think he is an megalomaniac like all the rest of the billionaires, how else do you think they got there? by being nice and charitable?

 

[inlovewithi]

Flashy gadgets and unboxing videos haha.

And you will be remembered for?

The letter proves nothing. I bet there are plenty of others that did get FREE stuff. I am too lazy to look it up.

One of the problems with giving donations and FREE stuff is that the word gets around and you get inundated with requests for more.

I used to give to MADD and they seemingly spent my money (At least it felt like it) to keep on writing me for more, making me feel bad with the way they worded their letters. I couldn't even get of their mailing list despite asking.

Same for many others.

So, the way I donate now is I send them whatever and if I only get a thank you and a once a year "update of what we did with your money" letter, they get more.

Everything else goes in the garbage.

I stopped reading at "And you will be remembered for?"

Can't explain it, but is just created this image in my head. Something wrong about a complete stranger to a celebrity bragging about how that celebrity is going to be remembered, and putting another person down about it, meanwhile the person bragging about the celebrity and worshiping him is a complete unknown. Can't explain it, so I give up.

Also the idea that you seem to think that people in this world are all trying to get noticed and remembered, screams of insecurity, since I'm assuming it's a value of yours, and so you are projecting your feelings of what's important on to others. But it's kind of what a kid under 5 would value.

 

[greytmom]

i love all the folks that rush to "defend" jobs when he probably wouldn't take the time of day to shake your hand. If you don't think he is an megalomaniac like all the rest of the billionaires, how else do you think they got there? by being nice and charitable?

You misunderstand. I don't think a person has to be a nice guy in order to have the right to do whatever the hell they want to do with their lives.

I also don't assume that a person is or isn't a nice guy unless I actually know the person. I'm funny that way.

 

[BaldiMac]

That is one article that speculates he may be donating anonymously.

It's the source you provided to "prove" your own claim! You were wrong.

However, everyone else doubts that very much. There is little evidence to suggest that billionaires ever donate anonymously.

Isn't that the point of donating anonymously?

They are always convinced of the benefit of donating publicly. Some here may claim that that Bill or others donate as some sort of public show. But the the evidence in the field demonstrates that donating publicly highlights the cause and encourages more donation.

Okay? 99% of billionaires are convinced of this, how does it prove that Jobs isn't in the other 1%?

Jobs found a cause when he had to find a liver. He highlighted the cause by getting behind a bill to encourage more donors. He is only private until he finds something he believes in. That something just happened to be self-serving.

How is it self-serving? Do you have any evidence that he needs a new organ?

 

[Apple Corps]

Yet he doesn't give a dime away. He is still regarded as one of the worst billionaire philanthropists. He eliminated corporate philanthropy when he took over in 1997. He may be a visionary and industrial leader. However, he is a poor leader if he is not willing to speak about charity.

And just where are your FACTS to back up your statement ????

 

[greytmom]

He is only private until he finds something he believes in. That something just happened to be self-serving.

I guess I'm self-serving too, because I only support that which I believe in.

 

[Slurpy2k8]

I stopped reading at "And you will be remembered for?"

Can't explain it, but is just created this image in my head. Something wrong about a complete stranger to a celebrity bragging about how that celebrity is going to be remembered, and putting another person down about it, meanwhile the person bragging about the celebrity and worshiping him is a complete unknown. Can't explain it, so I give up.

Also the idea that you seem to think that people in this world are all trying to get noticed and remembered, screams of insecurity, since I'm assuming it's a value of yours, and so you are projecting your feelings of what's important on to others. But it's kind of what a kid under 5 would value.

Uh, did you read the post he was responding to?? The guy was mocking Jobs, stating he will be remembered for 'flashy gadgets and unboxing videos' if he doesn't do xxx. His response seems fitting, as Steve Jobs will be remembered more than 99.9999% of the worlds population. Thats not praise, its just a fact. Your tirade is silly, since the original poster is the one who brought up the 'remembered for' idea, and posted a random letter with no context to attempt to prove how evil Steve is. Do you actual think Jobs looks at all these letters personally? Do you have any idea how many thousands Apple must receive of these? There has to be company policy. I'm not defending anyone, but there's such idiocy and naivity in this thread, as if theres not a faintest clue here how a massive company like Apple needs to be run, and get butthurt when a letter asking for free **** from Apple doesnt get the desired response.

 

[WiiDSmoker]

This is because Bill Gates is trying to buy back his soul. He did a tremendous amount of damage to society, actual evil even. Gates, like Rockerfeller and others before him, now is realizing that he made his money by hurting people. Bill wants to be remembered well so he's spending money lavishly to create foundations that will put his name up in the big lights, the good lights. It's a scam.

You're kidding right?

 

[swagi]

Are we just ignoring the difference between being convicted of illegal business practices and Apple's "walled garden"?

Are we just ignoring the difference between being convicted legally and being on the edge of a similar conviction in the next years?

The plain fact that Apple's dominance on the mobile handset market is nothing but a wet fanboy pipedream is what saves them from facing a similar lawsuit like Microsoft. If the App Store really was a successful way of magazine distribution, if it really was, you'd think Apple would get away with that 30% lion's share?

Maybe in the US but in the EU they'd definitely being accused of using a monopolistic distribution service to dictate fees.

 

[NT1440]

Are we just ignoring the difference between being convicted legally and being on the edge of a similar conviction in the next years?

The plain fact that Apple's dominance on the mobile handset market is nothing but a wet fanboy pipedream is what saves them from facing a similar lawsuit like Microsoft. If the App Store really was a successful way of magazine distribution, if it really was, you'd think Apple would get away with that 30% lion's share?

Maybe in the US but in the EU they'd definitely being accused of using a monopolistic distribution service to dictate fees.

What does Apple's mobile market share have to do with their magazine distribution share?

 

[Gaelinic]

Bottom line, unless the guys comes forward, there is no reason to believe he is donating. It just doesn't jive with what we know of his personality and public image. It's not up to me or anyone else to think this guys is privately charitable. It's up to him to prove otherwise.

 

[BaldiMac]

Are we just ignoring the difference between being convicted legally and being on the edge of a similar conviction in the next years?

The plain fact that Apple's dominance on the mobile handset market is nothing but a wet fanboy pipedream is what saves them from facing a similar lawsuit like Microsoft. If the App Store really was a successful way of magazine distribution, if it really was, you'd think Apple would get away with that 30% lion's share?

Maybe in the US but in the EU they'd definitely being accused of using a monopolistic distribution service to dictate fees.

What in the world are you talking about? I am not ignoring the difference between a company that has been convicted of abusing their monopoly and the opinion of forum posters that Apple is doing something similar.

 

[greytmom]

It's not up to me or anyone else to think this guys is privately charitable. It's up to him to prove otherwise.

Are you out of your mind?

No, seriously. It's up to you to prove that you are sane. So go ahead, prove it.

 

[AidenShaw]

a lost chance for a Jobs legacy

While none of us (except the turtlenecked guy and his accountants, if they're reading) know what Jobs' charitable contributions are, he did miss one chance to leave a legacy to Silicon Valley.

In 1984, Jobs bought a stunning, historical mansion in the foothills above Silicon Valley - the Jackling House, a 14,540-square-foot, 14-bedroom home designed by a famous architect.

Whereas other wealthy people have left significant homes for the public (Villa Montalvo and Filoli in the immediate area, for example), Jobs decided that he wanted to build something shinier.

Therefore, instead of leaving a legacy for the region, an architectural gem has been

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What a petty, selfish act - when a small fraction of his wealth could have left the "Jobs-Jackling House" as an enduring legacy.

 

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[NT1440]

While none of us (except the turtlenecked guy and his accountants, if they're reading) know what Jobs' charitable contributions are, he did miss one chance to leave a legacy to Silicon Valley.

In 1984, Jobs bought a stunning, historical mansion in the foothills above Silicon Valley - the Jackling House, a 14,540-square-foot, 14-bedroom home designed by a famous architect.

Whereas other wealthy people have left significant homes for the public (Villa Montalvo and Filoli in the immediate area, for example), Jobs decided that he wanted to build something shinier.

Therefore, instead of leaving a legacy for the region, an architectural gem has been

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What a petty, selfish act - when a small fraction of his wealth could have left the "Jobs-Jackling House" as an enduring legacy.

The house was completely run down and destitute:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...e_jobs_abandoned_jackling_mansion_photos.html

 

[BaldiMac]

Bottom line, unless the guys comes forward, there is no reason to believe he is donating. It just doesn't jive with what we know of his personality and public image. It's not up to me or anyone else to think this guys is privately charitable. It's up to him to prove otherwise.

That's hilarious logic. Guilty until proven innocent. As pointed out in the article that you posted, anonymous donations would be credible based on what we know about Jobs. He is extremely private about his personal life.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Same guy that got an organ transplant virtually overnight when children wait years?

 

[greytmom]

The house was completely run down and destitute:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...e_jobs_abandoned_jackling_mansion_photos.html

And ugly too.

Interesting that local property owners were among the his defenders at the hearing. I guess they weren't all that worried about a lasting legacy.

 

[ctdonath]

I often wonder, how can you justify someone who works three jobs and can't afford the $400,000 for a college degree let alone a masters

My wife and I have 5 degrees between us. One thing we've learned is: if you're paying for an education (much less paying list price), you're doing it wrong.

http://ocw.mit.edu - every MIT course available online for free (personal attention & certification extra). Many schools either do the same or are partway there.
Hard work - very high grades pay off to the point of schools fighting over which will pay you more to go there.
Special interests - there's a lot of money out there wanting someone of characteristics X/Y/Z to receive it for free. Dig.
Move - don't limit your options. Rent a truck and go to what you can afford. (I moved 1000 miles so my wife could leverage a free high-profile education. Yes, that meant leaving a job, selling a sentimental house, etc.)
Employment benefits - my second degree was largely paid for by my employers.
Contacts - deals happen at the oddest times. The more people you talk to who have connections, the greater the odds you can get cheap/free. I knew someone who got 50-75% knocked off the price of his degree because there was an opening 2 days before classes started and he was willing to jump in on short notice.
Work - get a job at the school; many places, tuition is free for employees.

Schools are charging, as you put it, $400,000 for a degree because people pay it. Supply-and-demand: if people are willing to pay a high price for a limited commodity, suppliers are willing to charge it; so long as lenders can concoct payment plans that net ever greater percentages of would-be students' incomes, schools are happy to raise their prices accordingly.

Of course, the greatest irony of your post is that it's in response to the world's 110th richest person, at ~$8B, who is a college dropout. Jobs sure didn't spend $400,000 on a degree.

 

[TomCondon]

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LOL at the Mexican beating the Americans at being capitalist