Yeah ok. If you knew the truth behind any of that, you'd think a little different. Or maybe not. Depends on how much value you see in the life of children in 3rd world countries.
Steve Jobs Ranked World's 136th Richest Person
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Yeah ok. If you knew the truth behind any of that, you'd think a little different. Or maybe not. Depends on how much value you see in the life of children in 3rd world countries.
No need for updates. PCs of all kinds , including macs will die within 3-4 years. Worth to wait for some new useful device instead
Theophany
macrumors 6502a
You're missing the point. Charity, defined as one giving money to another whose need is greater, is humanly possibly insofar as that it can be done. On the other hand, it's a big fat tax deductible sum for those who donate and I'd bet green money that is taken advantage of by those who do give vast sums of money to charitable causes. That isn't to say that these people are not doing a good thing, they most certainly are, but there are ALWAYS ulterior motives.
Please don't bash me for being a ****ing realist - humans are self-interested, rational creatures. Giving away your own stuff for no benefit is not logical, nor is it rational. You cannot differentiate the bulldog that ran Microsoft from the puppy that runs the Bill & Mel Foundation, he's the same guy playing a different game.
Steve surely is not a zenist. Everyone who follows it, know that sure doesn't exists, and there are endless points of view for everything. Contrary, he's absolutely confident that all what he does, is best, and the only right. And he better knows what others need. He's more as crusader catholic, George Bush of technology.
sharkinfested
macrumors regular
Man, we really are over paying for Apples stuff.
Andronicus
macrumors 6502a
Charitible acts always have ulterior motives, even if its just attention seeking. True charity is something not humanly possible.
So what are your ulterior motives to donating to charaties???
Ulterior motives is used to describe your own selfish motives.
I think that there are many who work in some "blue collar" jobs laughing at your sheer ignorance right now.
kernkraft
macrumors 68020
I am the 136th!
He might be the 136th richest person, but mine is the 136th comment on the matter!
Well done Steve, you really earned that money! Only a talented marketing person could sell me so many overpriced PCs! Now that you are within the top 150, how about some new MacBook Pros, please?
How about doing something for others now and I don't mean consumer items?
He might be the 136th richest person, but mine is the 136th comment on the matter!
Well done Steve, you really earned that money! Only a talented marketing person could sell me so many overpriced PCs! Now that you are within the top 150, how about some new MacBook Pros, please?
How about doing something for others now and I don't mean consumer items?
63dot
macrumors 603
They only thing more ridiculous than the statement you are referring to (and the poster has theories I find weird) is your answer.
I am sure he read something bad about Billy on the internet or in some newsstand rag, so what? Does that make it true? Let's say the poster you are attacking a 16 year old kid, or maybe a 60 year old judge, how does that hold any relevance? And what the hell do you have against lawyers?
Cheap shots like yours gets threads closed down and give the appearance that there are trolls here. If you want to be a jerk, go to the political forums where they are a little more lenient.
dXTC
macrumors 68020
mattwolfmatt
macrumors 65816
Poor Steve . . . the article is about him, yet somehow the discussion has been hijacked into talking about Gates. He just can't get out of his shadow!!!
Ha, you are so predictable. Your fanaticism knows no bounds
It's a macrumors complex. MSFT and gates are brought up every thread. It's crazy
cutthroughthebs
macrumors member
He gave us the Mac! What have you given to mankind? Tells you a lot about a person... Who knows what he gives (just because he doesn't boat about it in vain like BG) and for you to even say anything is out of line really. You don't know what he's given away to charity or anything... I know your post says something about your doubt, and disbelief in people in general. He earned it and if he doesn't want to give one cent away, that's his or anyones prerogative.
BaldiMac
macrumors G3
Ha, you are so predictable. Your fanaticism knows no bounds
We all know *LTD*, but that was one of the most reasonable posts in this thread. Do you not think that someone who is struggling but still manages to give deserves more respect for his charity than someone who gives from their excess?
Amen!
Moses gave Torah to Jews, and Steve gave us a Mac.
I can imagine some script from 4th millennium
"I am the LORD thy Steve, who brought thee out of the land of Microsoft, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other computers before Mac"
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
At least the people who are obsessed with Steve Ballmer haven't
hijacked the thread!
The greatest thing about Ballmer, that no one obsessed with himAt least the people who are obsessed with Steve Ballmer haven't
hijacked the thread!
Master Chief
macrumors 6502a
Don't forget the IRS in this picture (think tax cuts).
appleseed76
macrumors regular
I agree. While Melinda is trying to help Bill to preserve his legacy, don't tell me he's not investing in African school systems for corporate gain. Every school he builds over there will be saturated with Microsoft technologies guaranteeing future customers with loyalty that is tied to their own well being. Think about it. Plus, there's the potential for decades of cheap labor, once certain countries in Africa stabilize. Right now US companies, Apple included, are exploiting the Chinese for their ability to produce cheap tech. Someday it could be multiple poverty-stricten African countries that have been built up by the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation.
The thing I find most amusing is that many countries and organizations around the world think that Africa needs technology, but what good is a laptop going to do when people are dying of starvation and diseases that have ceased to exist elsewhere in the world. What Bill and other groups need to do is overthrow local governments and get rid of those warlords that truly exploit people and brainwash the youth throughout Africa. Put your money where your mouth is Bill and crush these SOBs.
By the way, I was watching a show a few years back when Gates was only worth $40 billion and he had justbuilt this new mansion. I think they said it cost him $400 million to build. State-of-the-art everything for its time. Anyway, the program said that in comparing Bill's worth to that of an average middle class worker (Pairing him down to making $40,000 a year, if I remember correctly.) He spent the equivalency of $40 to buy that mansion. How many of us could even buy a double-wide trailer for that amount? It just goes to show you how insanely weathly these guys are. There's no way on earth they can relate to common people anymore. They are not your friends, they are CEOs wanting you to buy a product that will ultimately make their company more successful and more powerful.
I don't think it is even close to the most reasonable post in this thread. It's a shame that many don't attempt to assuage his rhetoric
But you do bring up an interesting point. My outlook on charity is that it still requires some altruism regardless of your financial status. Yes I look a struggling man donating as an admirable thing, but I also give kudos to the wealthy who use their fame and influence to make charity attractive a wider audience.
Bill has likely given more (when you consider percentage of his total net worth) than the average John Doe. Sure he can do it without worrying about the mortgage, but there are a lot of rich who do not donate whatsoever.
Diminishing what he has done would be equivalent to diminishing Apple's accomplishments with any successful iDevice because they have a huge R and D budget.
kernkraft
macrumors 68020
It's not about software, it's about what you want to get remembered by
Let's cut extreme lack of critical thinking here! Giving is pretty much as easy if you have $50 billion or $5.5 billion. Bill Gates is giving away annually what Steve Jobs is worth altogether. By percentage, Steve Jobs is giving away - well, **** all.
Steve Jobs should know what gets more attention. For him, it matters with iPods, iPads and some computer products. There is no way around it, he is a tight-ass. In fact, the more these people get closer to each other in personal wealth, the more attention is being drawn onto the shocking difference between their attitude.
It's not about some computer geeks' opinion on which OS or hardware is better. I bet that Jobs is comfortable with his wealth and truly believes that he deserved it. After all, what the world needs is iStuff. Gates says that actually, they also need food and cure for various diseases.
I don't use MS products at the moment (although, I liked Windows 7 when I tried it and there are nice computers from other manufacturers too) and I already spent a small fortune on Apple products and services. But if I would have the same approach to life as Jobs, I would feel guilty and worthless, regardless of what these rich lists say.
Let's cut extreme lack of critical thinking here! Giving is pretty much as easy if you have $50 billion or $5.5 billion. Bill Gates is giving away annually what Steve Jobs is worth altogether. By percentage, Steve Jobs is giving away - well, **** all.
Steve Jobs should know what gets more attention. For him, it matters with iPods, iPads and some computer products. There is no way around it, he is a tight-ass. In fact, the more these people get closer to each other in personal wealth, the more attention is being drawn onto the shocking difference between their attitude.
It's not about some computer geeks' opinion on which OS or hardware is better. I bet that Jobs is comfortable with his wealth and truly believes that he deserved it. After all, what the world needs is iStuff. Gates says that actually, they also need food and cure for various diseases.
I don't use MS products at the moment (although, I liked Windows 7 when I tried it and there are nice computers from other manufacturers too) and I already spent a small fortune on Apple products and services. But if I would have the same approach to life as Jobs, I would feel guilty and worthless, regardless of what these rich lists say.