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Though it is sadly unsurprising to read comments such as yours it really does beg the question as to why you would want to bad-mouth such an iconic person.

So widespread has been Steve Jobs influence in our world today that it is difficult to imagine quite how life would have been without him.

Though you obviously refuse to admit it he has been rightfully applauded by millions for creating products that are desirable not only because they have pushed technology forward, but have done so with usabilty and top-notch design as part of it's core ethos.

As countless others do, I thank him and wish him well.

And if you ever achieve even a fraction of what he has done then your life will not have been a waste.

Wasn't it Jonathan Ive that designed the iPhone and not Steve Jobs? He won an award for it.

Not trying to bad mouth Steve Jobs, but it shows disrespect to all the engineers and designers who create the iDevices to give only credit to Steve Jobs.
 
Wasn't it Jonathan Ive that designed the iPhone and not Steve Jobs? He won an award for it.

Not trying to bad mouth Steve Jobs, but it shows disrespect to all the engineers and designers who create the iDevices to give only credit to Steve Jobs.

Yes to a point but Jobs was incredibly involved with the design like he was with all apple products. I mean he would look at a design down to the pixel placements. He was in a sense the worst kind of micro manger but he a vision and idea and so when the designers failed to make what he had in mind, they'd have to start over or alter the design. So in a sense he was deeply involved in the design, but we do see Ive's fingerprints on all of apple's designs and apple would be the worse for wear to see him leave as well.
 
People really have Steve on a pedestal....

For good reason -- he belongs on one. He is one of the top thinkers of the 20th and 21st century. Our lives are different because of him, even if you chalk it up to slick marketing he has still had a massive impact on even non-Apple product user's lives.

Sure the home computer existed before the Mac, but not one a non-geek could wrap their head around. Without the Mac there would be no Windows. We'd all still be typing out command lines in WINDOS 90.4. Sure the mp3 player existed before the iPod, but not one that was really useful to the avg. consumer. Without the iPod and iTunes we'd still be lugging portable CD players around. Sure tablets existed before the iPad but I'm not sure anyone actually bought one b/c they were not designed well.

Even if you dismiss all of his achievements in the tech sector, he even redefined animation films, essentially out-Disneying Disney to the point they had to buy Job's Pixar to survive. Disney, the heretofore king of animation.

Wasn't it Jonathan Ive that designed the iPhone and not Steve Jobs? He won an award for it.

Not trying to bad mouth Steve Jobs, but it shows disrespect to all the engineers and designers who create the iDevices to give only credit to Steve Jobs.

Yes, but who had the foresight to hire all the top people at Apple? Steve Jobs. That is what CEO's of Jobs caliber can do. And let's be clear, the iPhone was Jobs idea. Ives made it reality.
 
Wasn't it Jonathan Ive that designed the iPhone and not Steve Jobs? He won an award for it.

Not trying to bad mouth Steve Jobs, but it shows disrespect to all the engineers and designers who create the iDevices to give only credit to Steve Jobs.

Absolutely, and does Steve Jobs ever try to say otherwise? No, he always talks about the great team at Apple.
Though it was Steve Jobs who had the vision to make Jonathan Ive such a central figure.
 
You know what?

Steve Jobs has more endings than the Lords of the rings.

He will be around just because Apple is what he does, that is why I am not worry about anything.

I do feel a huge appreciation for him for all the toys he has created, for making a difference and show to the world that you can build things that are easy to use, stylish, reliable and functional.

I hope his legacy spreads.
 
Bold statement.
Actually felt the same. I toyed around with picking up an Amiga 4000 or an pos Compact (shows my age) and then when I saw the Powermacs I was stoked.
I wasnt rich then and was a struggling student (Animation and CGI) but had to get one of them Powermac 6100 AV.
Begged borrowed and not steal got one just in time for my first class as an adult ;)
I did not know anything about the Cult of Mac at the time and grew into it even though I was heavy with workload that dealt with Unix and DOS (running 3D Studio and AutoCAD).
The Mac was at home used as my demo reel tool for the future which now I can say is loaded with Mac Pros and nothing but fun apps to work/play with ;)

Thanks Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak and Apple for a great experience :)
 
Absolutely, and does Steve Jobs ever try to say otherwise? No, he always talks about the great team at Apple.
Though it was Steve Jobs who had the vision to make Jonathan Ive such a central figure.

This.

An article on Ive even said how he (Ives') was literally in a building in a room by himself with his prototypes getting no attention until Steve walked in and was impressed with Ive's work, he then moved the engineers to the main building, got them all new machines and the rest is history.

If anyone thinks I'm wrong look it up, you'll find it.

EDIT: Its early and thanks OllyW for pointing out my spelling mistakes. Back to bed! :D
 
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An article on Ives even said how he (Ives) was literally in a building in a room by himself with his prototypes getting no attention until Steve walked in and was impressed with Ives work, he then moved the engineers to the main building, got them all new machines and the rest is history.

If anyone thinks I'm wrong look it up, you'll find it.

You keep getting his name wrong. ;)
 
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MiWall81 said:
He was "The Man...!" Thanks for cool things Steve!

Same from me!!

Thank you steve.
 
To everyone saying Steve's health is failing, and that he doesn't have much time left. Seriously, please stop talking... it's blatant stupidity like this that causes bad rumors to circulate. You have no idea what you're talking about. I don't have the answers either, but you certainly don't.

And here's a perfect example as to why you shouldn't make baseless comments. Whether below is true or not, no one can say. But it completely contradicts those statements, and judging by the source... I can assure you this guy probably knows a lot more than any of us.

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/2...not-indicative-of-sudden-worsening-of-health/

You should really read it.

The day of the announcement, Jobs was in Apple's Cupertino, California, office for the entire work day, and he attended a regularly scheduled board meeting, according to a person close to Jobs, who was not authorized to speak about the executive's health. While Jobs has been housebound for the past few weeks and his condition is weak, the resignation was not indicative of a sudden worsening, this person said.

The quote doesn't say that he has spent full working days at the HQ, it says that he has spent one full working day, and that day was the same day as the announcement, which I think is important. But he has been housebound for the past few weeks, that's plural.
If he was getting better and able to spend full days at the HQ he wouldn't be resigning.

The quote also says that the resignation isn't indicative of a sudden weakening. The most important word here is sudden, since the quote also states that he has been housebound for the past few weeks and that his condition is weak, which makes it hard to describe the deterioration of his health as sudden.
Now is the resignation indicative of Jobs weakening? That it doesn't answer.

This is a quote from someone trying to mitigate Jobs leaving and failing at it.
Because of the latter I doubt that it's sanctioned by Apple.
 
You guys are freaking out over nothing. The man is not dead.

Also, consider this: If you think he is not going to have his fingers in the pie still, you are delusional. Not while he is alive. You don't go from being QC anal retentive over your personal company and achievement to I don't give a ****. It just is NOT going to happen.

Something else to consider. Mr Jobs has groomed his staff and cultivated the entire Apple movement to reflect his personal beliefs and standards. This is not just going to peter out because he is handing command over to Mr Cook.

Really....

In reality he is still working hard to keep his company competetive, active and innovative by ensuring that someone will keep the horse running (like on the job training) to make sure that it is done right.

His entire staff have taken on his beliefs with the same zeal he has. Yes, there will never be a visionary like him for a long while but as I said, the man is NOT dead and will be having a strong influence on all matters to come while he is still alive.

Good post. The fact is, orderly succession is critical to the long term strength of the company. If Steve were to hold onto the CEO post until death, it would be utter chaos-- at least in the financial marketplace and media, if not the also inside company.

By clearly reducing his role now to only his most critical functions-- Ultimate Tastemaker, and approver of corporate stragtegy-- he can reduce the uncertainty when the inevitable happens.
 
Steve Jobs...The drive the man has is UNBELIEVABLE!

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Amen! I bought 1000 shares when it went to 69.35 as the economy tanked, I will sell it next year when it hits 500, and move to the Blue Ridge Mountains, fully retired, THANK YOU STEVE! you put the icing on my cake, in the worst recession since the great depression

You are one lucky guy!!! Will it hit 500 going forward? That's the question. But Apple continues to defy odds, break boundaries and create the unbelievable.
 
I'm not disrespecting Steve Jobs, but I'm not naive enough to accredit everything good (or bad) about Apple to him, like it's been said before, that would be disrespectful to all that are involved.

Anyone can have an idea, it's the people that make it a reality who should be getting the praise too.

I do respect Steve, he has a vision for his company and product and he sticks to his guns and does things his way, that's very rare to see in business these days.

I don't think it's fair to say without Apple we would be hashing out command line prompts, I'm sure someone would have come up with the idea - but we'll never know for sure.

The iPod did popularize the MP3 player and smartphone, but I think that's more to do with clever marketing - especially regarding the iPod. A sleek piece of Apple tech which is more affordable than anything else they produce.

Anyway, yeah, I think the guy is great for having such great ideas and sticking to his guns, but I there's a lot of other poor guys behind the scenes that deserve a lot of credit and respect too for helping to realise his ideas.
 
By clearly reducing his role now to only his most critical functions-- Ultimate Tastemaker, and approver of corporate stragtegy-- he can reduce the uncertainty when the inevitable happens.
Yes yes that would be his new role :)
First on the list.
He will learn XML and create the FCPX XML exporter/import option ;)
 
Bill Gates had no vision, just a cut-throat mentality for making money. Steve Jobs had a vision, and created this vision. I am glad I lived with him on the Earth - he changed computers.

For all that cut-throat mentality for making money he sure seems happy to give it away.

I really didn't like Bill Gates, but that has changed.
 
Don't worry. They will create a digital copy of Steve Jobs. Virtual Steve will be giving keynotes for the next one hundred years at least.
 
Why are you shocked by this. He came back to apple after being ousted via a powerplay and not only turned it around but made them what they are. It should come no surprise that such a visionary would not attract folks who put him on a pedestal.

Boy, I don't know...

I'm all for giving great CEO's credit where credit is due but really... none of us know how much influence the people surrounding Steve have actually had on the company.

Given Steve's blunders in the early days, I seriously doubt he was sitting in his Office and dreamed up the iPod (unarguably, the definitive product that saved Apple).

I regard him as a great corporate leader which is a major accomplishment all by itself. Also, a stickler for design standards. But not some visionary that came down from a mountain. He's just a man.
 
Wasn't it Jonathan Ive that designed the iPhone and not Steve Jobs? He won an award for it.

Not trying to bad mouth Steve Jobs, but it shows disrespect to all the engineers and designers who create the iDevices to give only credit to Steve Jobs.

I'm not going to pretend to know anything about the inventors but one can easily see that patents are often shared among a large group of engineers and designers at Apple. NYTimes has got an exhaustive list on their front page actually:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...ents.html?hp#patent/electronic-device_D558757

Also, with regard to Steve's protection and culturing of Ive, I refer the readers to a thoughtful story at macworld:
https://www.macworld.com/article/161931/2011/08/steve_jobss_fierce_life_and_legacy.html
 
This was planned for

This has been in the planning for years. You can bet that the upper management was well award of the realities. So this transition will be smooth. Steve Job's impact on world society will be studied for decades to come, and discussed for centuries. Don't be sad celebrate what this man has done. I find it interesting Steve Jobs and Bill Gates started out in the same computer club in San Fransisco. Both are multiple billionaires but which one will be mourned in his passing. Microsoft operates my computer,blah :( My iPod Touch feeds my mind.:) I never could understand the fanatical following Apple has, until I owned my first iPod Touch. While I don't kiss earth at Steve Jobs feet if I had the chance I would certainly shake his hand and thank him for the endless hours of pleasure Apple has brought me.:apple:
 
It has been a great run with Steve Jobs. He has done extraordinary things. The best of Apple, and other companies, has been when he has been at the helm. I hope that he continues to stir the pot and enjoys a long and good life beyond his role as CEO at Apple.
 
This has to be one of the more ignorant statements in this thread. Steve Jobs is most certainly not "just another person in this world." If you believe that your depth of knowledge on him is quite shallow.

He has had a profound impact on life as we know it today. From popularizing the concept of a "home computer," and replacing the command line with a user friendly mouse controller and GUI, to making MP3 players a viable choice vs. portable CD or tape players to reimagining how a smartphone, then tablet, should work. And then there are all the small tech details he helped pioneer. It's really hard to include all his contributions to societal evolution here.

What have you ever done that makes you a similar "just another person"?

He just another person cause he didn't change life itself, Apple products are just luxury products. People don't need them, they just want them.
Yes the products have an impact, as one can easily search something on the web via his iPhone, iPad,... (other products can too and even could before these were invented). But if we really have to find something on the web, we could just start up our 10 year old Windows machine and find it or go to the library and use their computers.
Don't come knocking with "we can share our lives now much more easily with these products". This is just dull, go to a bar with your friends or give them a call, much more personal. But this is also said against the social networks...

Apple is a copier who makes it a bit better, but the products which are copied work too. I don't know how many % have a Macbook, iPhone or iPad (I don't include the iPod), but it's generally known that most people have Windows, another phone and even more people just don't have a tablet. Do these people have a lower life stand then we, who have such Apple products? I think not. If you do, THAT is ignorant, not my post.

Keep in mind I'm not anti-Apple, I own a Macbook Pro and some other accessories. And if this one breaks, I'll buy another.
 
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