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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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Today, every Apple user is "missing out" on "the full benefits of BD".
Unless, of course, they buy an aftermarket BD player and dual-boot Windows 7 on their Apple.
Also, of course, "full benefits" means slipping your BD movie into the drive and clicking "Play Movie". Spending hours ripping and transcoding to get a movie without the menus does not count. I repeat - does. not. count.
That's strange.
Since when is the mere statement of the difference between two actions considered "telling" anyone to do, or not to do, anything?
This seems quite accusatory, to say the least.
But you did say:
You don't have to literally say "XYZ" to make "XYZ" as a point. Repeating the phrase "keeping your mouth shut" essentially becomes "keep your mouth shut".
And you don't have the right to say that. You don't have the right to say that.
There was a "bleat, bleat, bleat..." post in the middle, but it contributed nothing.
Not if they have a dedicated player hooked up to a large HD screen, and high fidelity sound system, they aren't.
If they really wanted to watch BD on their computer screens, that's easy enough to set-up, with or without Windows.
I, personally, prefer the former.
It does count.
MKV-VLC is as easy as that, to use.
Repeat: MKV-VLC is as easy as that, to use.
Clean-up in aisle 9!
Since when does one not have the right to tell someone "the difference" between two actions?
So...
Can the latest VLC play a BD inserted into a Mac? Or does it have to be ripped?
If I play without ripping, and burn (mainly data) BDs in toast, then all I have to do is wait for DVD drives to become scarce and expensive so that my next Mac comes with BD-RE built in. Unfortunately, I'm getting the vibe that even if DVD drives were slightly more expensive than Blu-Ray, we'd still get DVD, "just cause".
I think this is probably the most stubborn Apple have been with any technology development. The reasons against Flash on iOS are good, but the reasons against Blu-Ray (at least BTO) have been pathetic so far.
Can the latest VLC play a BD inserted into a Mac? Or does it have to be ripped?
If I play without ripping, and burn (mainly data) BDs in toast, then all I have to do is wait for DVD drives to become scarce and expensive so that my next Mac comes with BD-RE built in. Unfortunately, I'm getting the vibe that even if DVD drives were slightly more expensive than Blu-Ray, we'd still get DVD, "just cause".
I think this is probably the most stubborn Apple have been with any technology development. The reasons against Flash on iOS are good, but the reasons against Blu-Ray (at least BTO) have been pathetic so far.
Not if they have a dedicated player hooked up to a large HD screen, and high fidelity sound system, they aren't.
But if they want to take a BD movie on the road, and watch it on the plane or in their hotel?
Screwed, if they have an Apple.
MKV-VLC is as easy as that, to use.
Repeat: MKV-VLC is as easy as that, to use.
Sorry, then I apologize. I didn't realize that MKV-VLC pops up an auto-play menu with a "Play Movie" button like I see on Windows when I insert a BD disc into my BD drive.
Oh wait, no Apple comes with a BD drive, so you need a 1394/USB external drive, which probably needs a power brick.
I'll repeat - screwed, if you have an Apple.
Why Blu Ray?
With All the Streaming Options these days all you need is a good home Network. I will never put in a DVD again.
With All the Streaming Options these days all you need is a good home Network. I will never put in a DVD again.
Great! I have a good home network.
Where do I get my content? Full 1080p please. Oh and I'm assuming it streams worldwide, otherwise you wouldn't post it.
I have an 8Mbps internet connection with 50GB monthly download quota if that helps.
Actually, MakeMKV supports direct video streaming, which enables instant playback of blu-ray and DVD discs without converting them to MKV first - it enables blu-ray playback on Linux and Mac OS X directly from the optical disc. menus, and all.
Right on.
Hardly - digital copies play flawlessly.
Direct stream, and it's all there.
Reported, all the same.
I have an 8Mbps internet connection with 50GB monthly download quota if that helps.
Why are you complaining? You can watch one movie a month, after waiting two days for it to download.
Streaming is the future - kill all the current options.
Not 1080p. Fail.
Autoplay and all, and grandmother simple? Then the only issue is that no Apple comes with a BD drive.
Wait - that's a pretty big issue!
Yes, good luck complaining about a "Bleat" after your "Cleanup in aisle 9!" comment.
DVD quality and better, on a laptop, is hardly a fail.
Riiiight, that would even remotely come close to your disingenuously replacing a forum user's quote with an insulting mockery, as if the user spoke those words.
Good luck with that.
Merely DVD quality (480p), IS fail, when your laptop has a screen res higher than 1080p.
I've used Macs for 15+ years, and what I don't understand is the recent "DVD is good enough" attitude. Since when did I spend 2-3x the cash on a Mac if all I cared about with my gadgets was "good enough".
If you really want higher res for a laptop, ripping, then, would be the solution.
I doubt, very much, that I'd ever want a BD drive in a MB or MBP, but that's just me.
Fair enough, but would you want a DVD drive in a laptop?
My argument still remains that while there is a need for optical media, and even if streaming is the future, that as long as we still have optical drives, they should be current technology, not last decade's tech.
My argument still remains that while there is a need for optical media, and even if streaming is the future, that as long as we still have optical drives, they should be current technology, not last decade's tech.
True, that's why I enjoy using my MBA and iPad more these days, than my 17" MBP.
There's something to be said about portability, quick access, and not having to deal with non-rewritable optical media - flash drives can be useful, in this respect.
Trying to figure out how the "sheeple" are wrong about their assumptions of SJ's thought process, but you are perfectly accurate...Is this like Being John Malkovich?
the answer: yes. you need MakeMKV to transcode (and decode, so detranscode lol?) to VLC, which can then play it straight from there.
certainly, i havent used optical media for a good 2 - 3 years! everything is streamed.
dont be mean to him, he isnt referring to streaming media. if i had proper (fast) internet connection at the moment i would link you to one of the MANY sites that allow you to download 1080p movies for purchasing/watching etc.Great! I have a good home network.
Where do I get my content? Full 1080p please. Oh and I'm assuming it streams worldwide, otherwise you wouldn't post it.
I have an 8Mbps internet connection with 50GB monthly download quota if that helps.
it is not the streaming/purchasing companies fault that you (and i, i am assuming telstra or similar) are stuck with ridiculous ISPs that limit our traffic.
a 1080 digital copy (i.e. rip) will still play on any laptop that has the processing power required. i dont see the problem once the movie is downloaded/ripped/etc.
I don't think I was mean...
He either meant streaming on your local home network - in which case, where does the source media come from? You do need a Blu-Ray drive, OR you need to download it.
If he meant online streaming, then once again you need a fast internet connection and a good service.
Either way, you need more than a "good home network".
if you are streaming content locally (which i think the OP meant) - then that means over the internal network. in which case you would likely rip the movies. macs can rip BDs to mkv no problem, so i dont see the problem here?
8mb seems to be getting quite standard, that will stream basically most of the compressed" HD rips very easily. for the limited sites that even have the support for FULL HD rips (i.e. 45mbit) then its a bit harder for most users. luckily for us aussies, give that 10 years and we can do that
i would not class a requirement of 100mbit to be a good home network.. for it is a VERY basic home network configuration by todays standards. 802.11n can deal with it fine.
The problem is that the poster was implying you could get chickens without eggs.
He said no need for blu-ray. I'm saying, how can you rip and share blu-ray over your home network without a blu-ray reader?
That's what I meant by more than a good home network. You need either:
Blu-Ray + good home network; or
Fast internet + good home network
you dont necessarily need fast internet to download BDs, i am prepared to wait a week for a movie to download - if only i had the bandwidth to accompany it.
but generally, yes i see what you mean and understand.
this is why i think a video store would be really well off hiring out USBs with the movies on them, or something like that. that would be kind of cool
What a blatant lie to support your argument. MakeMKV + VLC doesn't "Just Work". First it has no autoplay feature like AidenShaw asked you several times. You will have to open MakeMKV manually and select your source.
Second, it doesn't stream Menus and all. It streams what you basically selected. It gives you the movie. If you want to switch languages or subtitle options, you'll have to do it on the initial selection within MakeMKV.
Next VLC won't auto-magically open. You'll have to open it yourself, then select to connect to a server, find the one MakeMKV started and choose that.
It's not as easy as it sounds. Maybe for us geeks it's fine, but it doesn't "Just Work" at all. That is really a disingenuous thing to say.
That's fine then, don't buy one. I wouldn't want one either. Yet I'm not opposed to giving the user choice over the matter. Choice is good. Being opposed to choice is just plain silly and arguing against it even more.
What is with the hostile attitude? Of course it isn't going to open ip VLC for you, I think we are all aware of how it works.
It is a solution, it's a great work around and I don't think that it is hard for the less geeky users to perform. Guides on the internet are plentiful for this task.
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