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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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DoFoT9 said:
i said i couldnt find Full 1080p rips in 7.1 surround. i did however find a site that advertised some pretty decent rips, they were 1080p and in some cases were +10GB in size, from what i can remember anyway. so reverse your logical statement :)
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Reverse my statement because you found (but didn't post a link to) a pirate site with illegal transcoded lower quality files?

I'll acknowlege that I've made a mistake when you post a link to a site that will sell me ".ISO" files that I can burn on my BD-RE drive (some Windows systems come with BD burners, you know) and play in my Sony BDP-S550 on my 52".

Transcoded crap on torrents - need not apply. Thieves need not apply.
 
AidenShaw said:
Reverse my statement because you found (but didn't post a link to) a pirate site with illegal transcoded lower quality files?

I'll acknowlege that I've made a mistake when you post a link to a site that will sell me ".ISO" files that I can burn on my BD-RE drive (some Windows systems come with BD burners, you know) and play in my Sony BDP-S550 on my 52".

Transcoded crap on torrents - need not apply. Thieves need not apply.
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it was a legal site ;) you had to purchase them. torrents are so overrated, why would i waste my time (and yours) talking about movies that are severely degraded in quality? thats right - i wouldnt.

ill get back to you once i find the movie site :) (at work atm).
 
AidenShaw said:
Please, post a link to a site that is legally selling original bitrate BD downloads with lossless 7.1 audio.

I assume that they have the full BD-J menus and other added features as well.
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like i said, AidenShaw, i have not found any direct rips of BDs - that would be illegal.

i have admitted this and stated that there are some very decent ones (+10GB per film) available, and that i will find the link once i get home from work. i cant make it much clearer
 
DoFoT9 said:
like i said, AidenShaw, i have not found any direct rips of BDs - that would be illegal.
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Thank you for making it clear.

It does not appear to be able to legally watch 1080p content on an Apple unless you dual-boot into Windows, and attach a 3rd party BD drive.
 
DoFoT9 said:
it would certainly add additional excuses for people to do it, that's for sure.
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Had it not been for the advent of iTunes, the same would still be true for music downloads.

Hopefully, studios will eventually begin to see the light.
 
DMann said:
Had it not been for the advent of iTunes, the same would still be true for music downloads.

Hopefully, studios will eventually begin to see the light.
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what happens will happen. the main bottle-neck at the moment is bandwidth and data caps. australia is a prime example of caps.

nice chatting with you, sorry that you got banned :(
 
AidenShaw said:
Others (including a certain consumer electronics/media company) only call video "HD" if it is 720p (1280x720 pixels).
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Actually the definition of "HD" really says that picture has to have 720 horizontal lines. Interlace blur in 1080i makes it equal in "real" resolution.
Eg. dvcprohd has 960x720 luma pixels and 480x720 chroma pixels, which means 1.4M samples per frame. Pretty far from fullHD 4:4:4, which has 6.2M samples per frame. Result of course is that when almost anything can be called "HD" (like itunes movies) it doesn't mean anything qualitywise anymore.
AidenShaw said:
I would think that most readers would consider it a bit of accepted wisdom that Apple's restriction of hardware options reduces their support matrix, and helps with "just works"
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One habit Apple is known of, is trying to keep support costs at minimum.
Maybe this lack of hardware features are in big part of that.
Although they save $1 for leaving esata connector away and maybe even $10 for leaving express card away, maybe they save on average $100 per MBP for not giving support for "just works"-customers that can't figure out why their adapter or peripheral doesn't work.
 
KnightWRX said:
I'm getting really fed up with the Apple Defense Squad outright lying to prove their points and ignoring the rebuttals. And then they call people like me trolls.
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The final defense of a paid Apple shill... lying. But it's what they're paid to do, and the lower Apple quality sinks, the more they need them and the more they need. Keep in mind you're probably dealing with an outsourced someone named Hyrundi who spends his whole day job on the phone going under the name of "Elvis" and has to be polite there or else.

DMann said:
Hence, the accelerated growth of the Torrent market.
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You know all the time, energy, money, and manpower Steve-o is putting behind avoiding and pooh-poohing Blu-ray here and elsewhere?

Torrents are TRILLIONS the threat to his crappy 720 downloadable movies. Once he started putting his mighty mind to the destruction of torrents (and believe me, he already has) how long do you think they're going to last?

Blu-ray is legal, has a well-established base completely out of the reach of Apple control, and is growing exponentially. At least the Fry's Blu-ray section is.

Torrents, on the other hand? Good luck. They guy you're shilling for decrying Blu-ray is going to kill piracy quicker than you can say "Jolly Roger".

Forever. Because, as you know, he's the greatest genius of all time, and will kill all piracy methods before the likes of thieves have ever begun to dream them up.

:apple:
 
Hawkeye411 said:
Since we will be receiving ALL of our HD movie content over the Internet using the new Apple TV, there is absolutely no need for Blu-ray. LOL :D
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You mean the ridiculous selection of 160 comedies, 172 dramas, 40 family movies, 125 actioners, 32 SciFis, 22 romances, 43 thrillers, 34 music films, 59 documentaries and 133 horror flicks iTS currently has to offer in "HD"?

Yeah, we are utterly impressed. ROFL!
Heck, I own more than twice that number on dvd and BD.
Maybe we should offer Apple to rip our movie collections for them - in exchange for a BD drive... ;)
 
AidenShaw said:
Good job - go for the personal attack.
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Oh, it wasn't a personal attack, merely a fact-based observation.

Anyone familiar with your posting pattern can quite readily view your disdain for Apple. One wonders why you bother to troll this forum when you wear that negative bias so proudly on your sleeve for all to see.
 
Bad move Apple. I want bluray. The reasons on why not to buy a Mac next year keeps getting bigger...
 
cheesymogul said:
You mean the ridiculous selection of 160 comedies, 172 dramas, 40 family movies, 125 actioners, 32 SciFis, 22 romances, 43 thrillers, 34 music films, 59 documentaries and 133 horror flicks iTS currently has to offer in "HD"?
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You mean 0 coms, 0 dramas, 0 movies, 0 action, 0... 0 ANYTHING that iTS offers me in my country?
 
iEdd said:
What country? Everyone knows that USA is the centre of the universe. :rolleyes:
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Yep,
Apple knows it too.
Others get higher prices and less service and value.
I just wish that some day some anti-monopoly authorities separate the OS company from idevice company.
Then the OS X would regain its competitiviness and modernity.
 
toke lahti said:
You mean 0 coms, 0 dramas, 0 movies, 0 action, 0... 0 ANYTHING that iTS offers me in my country?
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Yeah I'm aware of being generous by counting HD stuff from the biggest store only.
Same story here in Switzerland. Zero movie content available.
And the music selection is poor as well. Without an American gift card you can forget iTS in Europe.

At least Apple was smart enough to save us from this useless new Apple TV!
I doubt they sold more than a hundred units of the old model over here.
 
toke lahti said:
Actually the definition of "HD" really says that picture has to have 720 horizontal lines. Interlace blur in 1080i makes it equal in "real" resolution.
Eg. dvcprohd has 960x720 luma pixels and 480x720 chroma pixels, which means 1.4M samples per frame. Pretty far from fullHD 4:4:4, which has 6.2M samples per frame. Result of course is that when almost anything can be called "HD" (like itunes movies) it doesn't mean anything qualitywise anymore.
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Blu-Ray movies are mastered at 1080p (well the vast majority are, only a very scant few launch titles are anything less).
 
GamecockMac said:
Your single computer purchase won't be missed. Sorry to burst your bubble. :rolleyes:
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Hmm, I have a HTPC in my media room and another in my living room. That's at least two computers that Apple missed sales on because they don't support Blu-Ray. It's a shame because something like a Mac Mini with Blu-Ray would have been oh so sexy in my component racks. Oh, I forgot about the PC in my den I use for 5.1 high res music, that's three and Apple doesn't sell anything that can drive 5.1 speakers by itself.

I'm confused, is Apple still trying to be the center of our digital worlds? I thought Macs were supposed to be the best for this kind of stuff.

Eventually all these "single computer purchases" add up, especially when it's professionals and pro-sumers who used to be the biggest advocates of the Mac platform who are turning away. Look at the neglect of the Mac Pro for example. Or true hard-core media people like me who aren't satisfied with iTunes download garbage and want Blu-Ray and high-res audio -- we're being told to look elsewhere and that's just what we'll do and have done. Apple used to want the bleeding edge "early adopters" as those people are the ones who influence their friends down the road; apparently the "good enough" marketing has usurped this and they shovel low-quality garbage down people's throats. Eventually the wave of technology and progress passes them by and they are left exposed naked as the charlatans that they are.
 
This is actually a little confusing.
Are we not debating apples and pears?

The thread title...
There is no competition for BR at the moment as I see it so if Apple are gonna give BR a miss....well they then will but they are not competing with a similar project for big screens.

There will surely be good quality downloadable movies in the future but for big screen stuff, not at all at this time.
If Apple are going after the rental market on small devices, I get it.
For a movie fan like myself, BR is heaven if you want to be able to watch
qood quality movies predictably and now. I use ITS now and then for HD movies but I tend to wait for the BR version on the stuff I care about as the pic.quality is rather sucky...
If you don't buy BR discs at the release, it is also cheaper then the HD ITS
d-oads.

Ah well,
From where I stand Apple appear to be either intentionally going after an other market, or missing the point.
Or maybe BR is really technically that "bag of hurt" ... but I doubt it..
 
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