My comment of "Apple going out of business like Amiga" was making light of an anti-Apple poster that has stated several times in this thread that Apple is doomed. Of course I do not believe Apple will sink.
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My comment of "Apple going out of business like Amiga" was making light of an anti-Apple poster that has stated several times in this thread that Apple is doomed. Of course I do not believe Apple will sink.
Oh no Apple is going out of business like Amiga - LOL
(You expected something different?)
Oh no Apple is going out of business like Amiga - LOL
(You expected something different?)
LOL
I wonder if "Oh no Apple is going out of business like Amiga" could be added to the "Cool Story Bro" entry in the Urban Dictionary.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cool+story+bro
Perhaps there could be footnote added "see Oh no Apple is going out of business like Amiga." This will now be my default reply to stupid comments with no logical basis from Apple haters. LOL
Linux vendors are in the business of selling Linux. Consumer applications vendors are in the business of selling consumer applications. Leave consumer applications up to the right vendors.
And what is it exactly you want ? Yet another Photoshop clone ? You'd be better served asking Adobe for a port. No amount of clones will ever satisfy you, Photoshop has 20 years worth of design and code in it, there's almost 0 chance someone will ever catch up to it.
Meanwhile, for real consumers, the Linux desktop has been there and working great for years. It lacks marketing and basically a reason to switch. You can read e-mail and surf the web on Windows, what perceived benefit is there to switch to Linux or Mac ? Apple has to go out of their way to market and offer perceived value in the Mac platform to gain switchers, Linux vendors don't do that hence why they don't gain share.
Let's face it, Linux on the desktop will get here on a massive scale like Mac and Windows are and that's fine. Linux on the desktop works for those who need it to work. I've used it for close to 10 years exclusively and never missed "consumer applications" at all. I dropped it for OS X not because OS X worked better, but because I wanted an Apple computer and using Linux on it was counter productive when the system shipped with Unix already installed.
Most application vendors do not port to Linux. That's why it's the OS vendors that have to step up to the plate if they want the platform to sell.
The only reason why I stay on the Mac is the lack of consumer apps in Linux (or preferably, an affordable Solaris).
The only reason why I stay on the Mac is the lack of consumer apps in Linux (or preferably, an affordable Solaris).
$119.99
http://www.frys.com/product/6178379
Less than $20 more than Apple charges for a second DVD drive on a maxi-tower....
The "bag of hurt" isn't about the cost of the drives, obviously.
http://www.frys.com/product/6178379
Less than $20 more than Apple charges for a second DVD drive on a maxi-tower....
The "bag of hurt" isn't about the cost of the drives, obviously.
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Great, you found a cheap BRD for a tower. Perhaps you havent noticed Apple only sells 1 tower. Now find a 9.5mm Ultra-Slim Slot-Loading BRD since that is what Apple is in all of the notebooks, which is by a wide margin the majority of Apples unit sales. How much are those?
What's a "BRD"?
Do you mean "BD drive"?In some ways, that's an indictment of Apple's "form over function" design mantra - Apple has chosen a form over function. The customer is the loser.
In other ways, it's irrelevant - Apple could sell an external BD for its systems, and support BD fully on external BD drives. Unfortunately, eSATA BD drives not supported on any of today's systems.
Yes, but not in the way you are asking. You're asking for Yet Another Clone App. We've got them by the ton on Linux. Some are quite decent, some really aren't competing.
I told what Linux OS vendors need to do if they want application vendors to notice Linux : Market the hell out of the Linux desktop to gain share. Once they break 3-4% market share, application vendors will notice and port their stuff, just like they do for Mac.
The thing most, most of the Linux vendors have accepted long ago that the Linux desktop is a wasted effort. The money poured into marketing it to show people it's viable won't bring in the profits that just selling it off as a server or developer workstation does.
We pay for Linux where I work, we have something around 400-500 installs going (I won't say servers, since most of these are VMs). I'm pretty sure our vendor is quite happy with the check we cut him and he doesn't care that a big compaign could bring in a few extra consumers with 50-99$ purchases.
Solaris is still free (as in beer) even after Oracle had its way and killed OpenSolaris. How much more affordable can you get ? (how long it will remain free is a mystery though)
If you need consumer apps, that's fine, but don't expect them to come from OS vendors. I find I use more open source stuff that I used on Linux on my Mac than anything else anyway. MPlayer, Virtual Box, Transmission, Chrome, GCC, nmap, X.org, Ruby, Perl, the GNU userspace etc.. The only reason I keep OS X on my Macs is because it is Unix. Why go for an imitation when you've got the real deal ?
RedHat, Novell, Canonical, they aren't in the business of writing Photoshops and Mayas, they just don't have the expertise and the garantees of profiting off such an endeavor aren't there at all.
What's a "BRD"?
In some ways, that's an indictment of Apple's "form over function" design mantra - Apple has chosen a form over function. The customer is the loser.
In other ways, it's irrelevant - Apple could sell an external BD for its systems, and support BD fully on external BD drives. Unfortunately, eSATA BD drives not supported on any of today's systems.
1) Um, BRD = Blu-Ray Drive. I capitalized the letters that are associated with this common initialism.
2) You can be myopic all you want, but form can be a function, and having thinner, lighter machines has a specific function. If you want a 2 thick 7lb notebook, go for it, but thats not what people seem to prefer from a portable machine.
3) Why do you think Apple have to offer a BRDs? Why not add your own if you want this HW so badly? There are plenty of 3rd-party internal and external solutions on the market.
4) Its silly to expect one company to support every-fraking-option that every other company on the market supports. But you arent saying that, youre only expecting Apple (no one else) to support all the features that you want. Thats just ignorant and selfish. if you dont like what a company offers then you dont buy their product. Its that simple. I dont buy Dell PCs because I care about portability, construction quality, integration between the OS and HW, and other things that affect usability. I also dont want a ODD (thats Optical Disk Drive, I used the first letter of each word) at all, since I never use it, so I removed mine and put in another HDD (Hard Disk Drive) to increase my storage, but I didnt bitch about it, instead I found a solution. You should try it, you might like it.
Your handle pretty much sums up your post....
And, note that no third party solution legitimately plays protected BD movies on an Apple - unless you're booted into Windows 7. Why should you have to boot Windows to play a movie on your Apple?
And your posts sum up your ignorance.
Case in point, you’ve still failed to note a single 9.5mm slot-loading drive from 3rd-parties at any price, and have now switched your argument from “Apple doesn’t offer BRDs Waaah!” to “Apple doesn’t support AACS Waaah!”
Unfortunately for you, the industry has settled on BD, and what AidenShaw posted was indeed a BD Drive. BD stands for Blu-Ray Disc.
Which is why I added D just like with SSD, HDD, and ODD to make it clear. If you cant understand that D doesnt means Disc in that instance then you shouldnt be on this forum.
You said BRD, not BRDD, which again was wrong anyhow, both ways.
Again, the industry has settled, it's BD and it stands for Blu-Ray Disc. A drive would be called a BD Drive or if you insist on abbreviating it, a BDD.
I'll say like AidenShaw in this instance : You bear your forum handle well. Is it getting Solipsistic in here or is it just me ?
Don't nitpick over the name. You all know what you're talking about.
BR obviously stands for Blu Ray, and it seems to be the most popular name (a Google search for "br drive" returns about 50% more hits than "bd drive", with similar results for "...movie" and to a lesser extent, "...media"). On the other hand, I think that BD is the official abbreviation. Both abbreviations are valid on this forum.
BR obviously stands for Blu Ray, and it seems to be the most popular name (a Google search for "br drive" returns about 50% more hits than "bd drive", with similar results for "...movie" and to a lesser extent, "...media"). On the other hand, I think that BD is the official abbreviation. Both abbreviations are valid on this forum.
Yeah, screw the industry, Nermal has spoken.
Look at the logo. The fact that many people are getting it wrong doesn't mean the industry hasn't settled on BD. And what else is there to discuss after close to 3500 posts on the subject anyhow ?
Market is full of laptops that have slim bd-drives. They just aren't offered in retail, since so few people change their laptop's ODD by themself.
Apple does support AACS with their iTunes movies, so only practical explanation still is that Apple hates bd only to increase iTunes success.
Nevermind that this also decreses many mac users user experience.
Macs' hardware specs are now mandated by some services, not by wha users would like their computer to have.
I think you're confusing AACS and HDCP. While Apple does support HDCP to make sure the path between your computer and the display is protected before playing back a movie on said display, Apple does not support AACS.
DRM'ed iTunes media uses Fairplay, a proprietary Apple DRM scheme they refuse to license out.
Blue-Ray's win was hollow, sure they are not going away anytime soon but its probably the last optical media format we will see. I love the quality, i only maybe 4 of them Its just not as convenient as downloading.
I can't see Apple ever having Blue-Ray and instead will push the industry to get rid of optical media altogether
I don't know what percentage of software sales are still sold via boxed versions at your local retailer, but it can't be that large. They are going to see a loss of sales but how much?
Let us also not forget that one of the most visible forms of piracy in the world is the mountains of movie and software disks available in plain site in stores over much of Asia. Doing away with the disk forces the pirates to try and make money off of torrents or downloads. These can be much easier to shut down by the government. (although i suppose we will then start seeing stacks of USB sticks)
Its just not as convenient as downloading.I can't see Apple ever having Blue-Ray and instead will push the industry to get rid of optical media altogether
I don't know what percentage of software sales are still sold via boxed versions at your local retailer, but it can't be that large. They are going to see a loss of sales but how much?
Let us also not forget that one of the most visible forms of piracy in the world is the mountains of movie and software disks available in plain site in stores over much of Asia. Doing away with the disk forces the pirates to try and make money off of torrents or downloads. These can be much easier to shut down by the government. (although i suppose we will then start seeing stacks of USB sticks)
Reading your post I didn't know if you were being serious, until I got to the bolded part. Nicely played, a good comedy post indeed.
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