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Most videophiles will admit Blu-ray is not noticeable under a 40 inch screen when viewed from living room distances.

BD 1080p quality is very noticeable on a 13" screen - when that screen is attached to the keyboard that's under your fingers.

As far as sound quality goes - nobody expects lossless 7.1 when they're listening via headphones on the airplane.

Having seen bluray on a sony laptop it didnt seem "very noticeable" at all. Im not a videophile so even though I have 20/20 I must be missing something.
 
Don't get caught up on semantics. I am just curious why he didn't recommend a Windows server instead of a Linux server.

Windows is garbage, but Linux has barely any desktop commercial apps.
Why should you get Windows Server when it's better go get a Unix/Linux server?
 
Windows is garbage, but Linux has barely any desktop commercial apps.
Why should you get Windows Server when it's better go get a Unix/Linux server?

I totally agree with you. I would never run a Windows server in my environment.

The reason for my post was because I responding to a forum member who pointed out to me in another thread that he had two Windows servers that had a year of up time compared to a RHEL box that only had 2 months of up time. So I was curious why he was suggesting a Linux box to me when his Windows boxes had a year of up time.

I run SLES10 and SLES11 and will soon be experimenting with SL Server.
 
Having seen bluray on a sony laptop it didnt seem "very noticeable" at all. Im not a videophile so even though I have 20/20 I must be missing something.

Compared to a DVD upscaled? You did that comparison and feel they look the same?
 
Compared to a DVD upscaled? You did that comparison and feel they look the same?
It's probably not so much whether or not they look the "same". [and likely no one would argue that point.] It's more a matter of whether whatever difference exists is actually worth almost 4000 posts in a thread that won't end (because it doesn't seem like Apple is gonna budge).

And again, all this "i wanna watch my BD viddys with my computer on a plane" stuff only appeals to a relatively select (small) group of people.

Hey, it might be great but... what can you do?
 
It's probably not so much whether or not they look the "same". [and likely no one would argue that point.] It's more a matter of whether whatever difference exists is actually worth almost 4000 posts in a thread that won't end (because it doesn't seem like Apple is gonna budge).

And again, all this "i wanna watch my BD viddys with my computer on a plane" stuff only appeals to a relatively select (small) group of people.

Hey, it might be great but... what can you do?

True, those of us who do care about watching a couple Bly-rays on a plane already have a portable external blu-ray drive and/or transfer using MakeMKV or the like.
 
It's probably not so much whether or not they look the "same". [and likely no one would argue that point.] It's more a matter of whether whatever difference exists is actually worth almost 4000 posts in a thread that won't end (because it doesn't seem like Apple is gonna budge).

And again, all this "i wanna watch my BD viddys with my computer on a plane" stuff only appeals to a relatively select (small) group of people.

Hey, it might be great but... what can you do?

Why do people keep insisting it's all about watching movies on a plane? My big complaint is not being able to burn, without third party software or hardware, hd videos from our iMacs.
 
...or having to burn 10 DVDs just to archive some data the other day. 1 dual layer BD-R would've covered it.

Edit: I'm still not sure why we have more than 512kB of RAM when it's clearly only a select group that actually need it! Why can't we all just be lowest common denominators!
 
Why do people keep insisting it's all about watching movies on a plane? My big complaint is not being able to burn, without third party software or hardware, hd videos from our iMacs.

Because once again, people who do not create like Steve Jobs and the commenters here, cannot begin to imagine for a single second what daily life is like for people who do. And cannot begin to imagine the need for bands, managers, filmmakers, artists, videographers, wedding photographers, CONTENT CREATORS to deliver finished and PROMOTIONAL content en masse, cheaply, to their customers and POTENTIAL customers who DEMAND the highest quality and A HARD COPY and DO have big plasmas and Blu-ray players in THEIR offices and homes and on planes.

Portable drives? YOU pay to give them away. By the thousands.

:apple:
 
It's probably not so much whether or not they look the "same". [and likely no one would argue that point.] It's more a matter of whether whatever difference exists is actually worth almost 4000 posts in a thread that won't end (because it doesn't seem like Apple is gonna budge).

And again, all this "i wanna watch my BD viddys with my computer on a plane" stuff only appeals to a relatively select (small) group of people.

Hey, it might be great but... what can you do?

We are way past the OP in this thread. My comment was about a specific post.
 
...or having to burn 10 DVDs just to archive some data the other day. 1 dual layer BD-R would've covered it.

Edit: I'm still not sure why we have more than 512kB of RAM when it's clearly only a select group that actually need it! Why can't we all just be lowest common denominators!

isnt that 640K? and also that quote was actually made up, bill never said it because he isnt that stupid.
 
...or having to burn 10 DVDs just to archive some data the other day. 1 dual layer BD-R would've covered it.

Edit: I'm still not sure why we have more than 512kB of RAM when it's clearly only a select group that actually need it! Why can't we all just be lowest common denominators!

External BD drive + Toast 10 + BluRay Plugin = Doing exactly what you want. Again, I go down the road and the only laptops being sold in retail stores with BluRay are high end machines - one could argue that maybe that they should include BluRay for the high end Mac Pro and MacBook Pro but lets not try to make out it is the end of the world without such a thing being included by default or as an option.
 
External BD drive + Toast 10 + BluRay Plugin = Doing exactly what you want.

Still no system-wide OS Blu-Ray support.

Again, I go down the road and the only laptops being sold in retail stores with BluRay are high end machines - one could argue that maybe that they should include BluRay for the high end Mac Pro and MacBook Pro

Pretty much all Macs are "high end" machines in terms of being in the premium price bracket. Certainly every Mac Pro, every iMac, and the 15" and 17" MBPs are high end enough to have what is now a 5 year old optical disc technology?

but lets not try to make out it is the end of the world without such a thing being included by default or as an option.

I believe the word I used was "frustrating". At no point did I say it was the end of the world.
 
Still no system-wide OS Blu-Ray support.

Which means nothing - there is the ability to write to BluRay if you're willing to go out and do it - Steve isn't stopping you at any stage other than you coming up with excuses that could rectify your situation quite easily.

Pretty much all Macs are "high end" machines in terms of being in the premium price bracket. Certainly every Mac Pro, every iMac, and the 15" and 17" MBPs are high end enough to have what is now a 5 year old optical disc technology?

Premium? maybe in the US of A where companies can get away with selling cheap crap quality products with horrible warranties but everywhere else in the world an Apple is only a few hundred dollars more expensive than the competitors. A couple hundred more expensive is hardly what I'd call 'high end' when compared to comparable quality sold through retail chains in most other countries.

I believe the word I used was "frustrating". At no point did I say it was the end of the world.

Where did I claim that you said it; it was a reply to you and a general reply to the whole thread - keep up with the programme and stop assuming the world revolves around you.
 
Where did I claim that you said it; it was a reply to you and a general reply to the whole thread - keep up with the programme and stop assuming the world revolves around you.

You were replying to me specifically, with a quote. You didn't even start a new paragraph to make a "general comment". Keep up with the programme.

Writing Blu-Ray alone is fairly useless when this whole thread is about an integrated solution and full Mac support. Keep up with the programme.
 
You were replying to me specifically, with a quote. You didn't even start a new paragraph to make a "general comment". Keep up with the programme.

Writing Blu-Ray alone is fairly useless when this whole thread is about an integrated solution and full Mac support. Keep up with the programme.

Oh please, shut the hell up - it is obvious that since you never mentioned it and I bought up the subject ergo it has nothing to do with you - don't people here have some bloody common sense or do people here assume EVERYTHING revolves around THEM and THEIR ego?
 
I'm a bit puzzled why you wish to come here and either try to be rude to individuals like myself or collectively to everyone. If this thread annoys you so much, why participate? :confused:

Or feel free to stay, but just go easy on what's approaching attacks, rather than discussion. :)
 
:rolleyes:

How's that unlimited streaming working out for you? :)

You know what you're going to do when you download 10 movies you want to keep forever? Buy a 2nd or 3rd or 4th iPad and keep them on all of them? Or erase it and if you want to watch it again or someone else in your household wants to watch it after you've erased, redownload it again?

"Steve, you magnficiant bastard, you make my life easier!!! :D"

It's called an external hard-drive - ever heard of one?
 
Discs gather dust

Have over 100 discs but never watch them as iPhone 4 and :apple:TV picture quality and selection are vastly more substantial. :cool:
 
Difference between DVD and Bluray is night and day on my 15" Inspiron. For those claiming that it's impossible to distinguish between the two at this screen size, then you're just blind and shouldn't participate in any discussion revolving around video.

Also, iTunes HD is crap compared to Bluray, so don't bother mentioning that abomination.

It's called an external hard-drive - ever heard of one?

It's called portability. Ever heard of it?
 
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It's called portability. Ever heard of it?

Are you seriously asking me that?

Here are the measurements of my external hd, and it holds 1TB.

Width: 11 cm
Depth: 8.3 cm
Height: 1.8 cm
Weight: 200 g

I'm sorry, but I'd rather carry that around ANY day rather than a bunch of blu-ray disks.

How can you even justify blu-rays as being portable? Get a damn clue.
 
Are you seriously asking me that?

Here are the measurements of my external hd, and it holds 1TB.

Width: 11 cm
Depth: 8.3 cm
Height: 1.8 cm
Weight: 200 g

I'm sorry, but I'd rather carry that around ANY day rather than a bunch of blu-ray disks.

How can you even justify blu-rays as being portable? Get a damn clue.

Yet with an external drive, you need to connect it with a cord and that's why it's so much less portable.

You're the one trying to compare a disc that goes INSIDE of a computer to a hard drive connected via a cord.

Also, streaming will never be as good until it can do lossless audio and crystal clear video with zero hiccups. Offline. Get it?
 
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Have over 100 discs but never watch them as iPhone 4 and :apple:TV picture quality and selection are vastly more substantial. :cool:

If your Apple TV has better picture quality than a Blu-ray player, then stop using composite cables to connect your Blu-ray player to your TV.
 
Yet with an external drive, you need to connect it with a cord and that's why it's so much less portable.

You're the one trying to compare a disc that goes INSIDE of a computer to a hard drive connected via a cord.

Also, streaming will never be as good until it can do lossless audio and crystal clear video with zero hiccups. Offline. Get it?

Oh lets see - would I rather carry around 50 bluray disks, or instead carry around 1 external hard disk (with a cord). Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I don't think shuffling through a bunch of disks and then finally inserting them into your drive is portable, or very practical.

And my original post was in response to someone saying that you'd need to buy multiple ipads in order to store your movies, or else you need to delete them to make space - I merely reminded him that external hard-drives do exist.

So, you're clearly the one that dragged this off topic - I never did compare an external hard-drive to a disk that goes INSIDE your computer. I know they have different uses, but I don't agree with what you said about external hard-drives not being portable - that's what they're made for, in my opinion.

Please go back and read the original post, which I replied to.
 
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I'm sorry, but I'd rather carry that around ANY day rather than a bunch of blu-ray disks

A hard drive is already the worst piece of equipement you can get as far as reliability goes. It isn't a proper way to archive data. Then you propose carrying around this device, which has mechanical moving parts that are even more prone to damage when moved around.

No, just no.
 
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