You are right, as soon as people saw what iTunes calls "hi-def" and a blu ray film, no one would waste their time or money on the inferior offering from iTunes.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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You are right, as soon as people saw what iTunes calls "hi-def" and a blu ray film, no one would waste their time or money on the inferior offering from iTunes.
Indeed, I honestly cant see how they would think that a BRD in their PC's would hurt their business model. Anyone could just buy a PS3 or a cheap Blu ray player. They are right at 100 bucks now, some deals had them under that price.
Buy off iTunes and have co-ownership with apple on media? Never for me.
Regardless which studio owns the content, you have FAR more ownership with a media in your hands than you do with any company selling DD's. Their quality is really bad as well, music and video its both plain horrible.
Very true. Much better at my house than the theater. Easier to find a good seat, no equipment failures in the middle of movies, feet never get stuck to the floor, don't miss anything when you need a bathroom break, and the snacks are far cheaper. Oh, and I have better bass, too.
Thank you, I'd been meaning to look that up.
Non of which is for "personal" use. Critics and professors are pretty much it.
I'm no fan of the DMCA, but some of your post is hyperbole or paranoia.
Actually, the law is quite black and white on all those things. Law + specific exemptions (or other laws that supercede). Perhaps you are refering to jury trials, where the jury must decide which side is telling the truth. That often seems less than cut-and-dried.
You can now copy a DVD to a hard drive without breaking the copy protection, and use DVD Player to play the file. If you use something else, you will see the copy protection is still there. I haven't fully analyzed this, but it appears to be within the DMCA rules and still allow a "copy". It's akin to making a disk image.
It may be breaking the disc-level CP, though.
Thanks, but I'm hardly the final word.
One poster made a claim that the 2010 version of DMCA allowed exemptions for unlimited personal use copying of DVDs, HD-DVDs (moot point) and BDs.
Putting "2010 DMCA exemptions" in my browser search window got quite a few hits - but those hits only mentioned using short clips from DVDs (BD/HD-DVD not mentioned) for some specific uses.
If Sony lost the "BetaMax case" people in the US wouldn't be legally allowed to time-shift media (ex. no recording of TV for watching later) and if Diamond Multimedia (makers of the Rio) lost their case against the RIAA people in the US wouldn't be legally allowed to space-shift media (ex. no copying music from your computer to an MP3 player).
Exceptions are gray areas, IMO.
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Yes, that was back a few posts.
I will have to try the above in a Google search to see what results I get as well.
So it seems the legal and ethical mantra is to purchase and own multiple copies of the same content.
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
Were you trying to link to something? [apparently it's more difficult than you imagined.]
"those who are against blu ray"
Say what?
We don't need to provide those reasons.
We aren't the ones who make those decisions.
We can only decide to purchase computers that serve our needs.
If a Mac didn't serve my needs, i wouldn't sit here and whine endlessly.
I would get on with my life and go buy the stuff that did what i needed.
CAPICE?
... or buy a Windows system that will play your BD copy.
"those who are against blu ray"
Look around - there are only a couple of people who are "violently" arguing against Apple offering BD as an *option*.
(edit: Hal says that he's fine with Apple offering BD as an option, my bad.)
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We don't need to provide those reasons.
We aren't the ones who make those decisions.
We can only decide to purchase computers that serve our needs.
If a Mac didn't serve my needs, i wouldn't sit here and whine endlessly.
I would get on with my life and go buy the stuff that did what i needed.
CAPICE?
Voice of reason. BTW, that explains why most people do buy PCs and not Macs.
Or my choice is to use my PS3 to play all Blu-rays. Adding Blu-ray to Macs would offer a second location to play the movie for when our single TV is in use (read: wife). Since I am all Mac at the house and playing movies at work isn't an option, I have one option (don't need a Windows machine at work and I don't run Win7 under BootCamp on my MacBook Pro).
Hmmm.....BD player or stable OS? I think I will go with the solid Unix foundation of OSX over Windows. There is no way a BD player would tempt me to buy a Windows machine ever again over a Mac.
Do you have any real information that proves that Apple OSX 10.6 is significantly more stable than Windows 7?
(crickets)
I didn't think so....
And congratulations on giving us a classic example of "moving the goalposts" in a thread - trying to change the conversation from Apple's failure to keep up-to-date on optical technology to some unsupported hearsay about OS stability.
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Are you kidding me? All I can say is FreeBSD. It doesn't get any more stable than that. I'll take a Unix kernel over buggy Windows any day. There is no need to discuss the obvious any more. Don't ask me to do your homework. Google it if you need more proof. The professionals I know in Advertising or Photography still prefer a Mac Pro over a Windows machine due to its stability. And they are the ones that could really use a BD player - and they do, they just buy their BD players for their Mac Pros at OWC.
Now to get back on topic, BD is not a deal breaker for a Mac. Many would agree with me that the pros outweigh the cons with Macs not having a BD player. I am starting to believe that there are only a handful of people not happy with that fact and they are all in this thread which amounts to a dozen or less versus the millions of satisfied Mac users out there. I am not against SJ putting BD players in Macs either. If I needed it that bad I would get it from OWC. Or I would go back to Windows and not waste my time in Mac specific forums. I doubt any Mac users go into Windows forums to tell them that Windows is terrible (which it is).
You supply the proof, or it's just hot air.
Actually, it's *your* homework to support claims that you make, not mine.
Actually, it's *your* homework to support claims that you make, not mine.
So for anyone keeping track, you can't back up the fanboy claim that osx is any more stable than windows 7.
Ignorng the lie about macs being more stable, the professionals in the film and television industry I know are switching to pc, since the need them to "just work" with blu ray. Those people don't want to have to hack a computer together just to watch, write or read blu rays. Those professionals can get laptops with faster speed, more ram, a bigger hard drive and a blu ray drive for half of what it costs for your typical MacBook.
We just bought 10 Sony laptops with blu ray burner drives. Our clients need to view blu rays with full menu support, something that is impossible on a Mac.
I am not at all surprised that you belive that, unfortunately reality might beg to differ.
No you just spend all your time bashing windows here.
Now now... even you know that's pure horsefeathers. It wouldn't bother me (or anyone) if Macs came with Blu-ray. So you are obviously trolling with a comment like that. The "problem" is that most folks are not as concerned about BD as others are. So just accept that... and stop trying to MISCHARACTERIZE the situation just for the sake of keeping this thread alive.
What needs to happen is for everyone in the world who cares about BD to stop buying Apple products. Assuming that amounts to anything significant, Apple will cave.
[i'll be happy to stop posting to this thread, just as soon as no further mischaracterizations appear.]
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