I think the removal of optical drives may be starting as the new MacBook Air models come with a USB restore disc. I would imagine it's a matter of time before other models - even with optical drives - start shipping with those USB restore drives.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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I think the removal of optical drives may be starting as the new MacBook Air models come with a USB restore disc. I would imagine it's a matter of time before other models - even with optical drives - start shipping with those USB restore drives.
For Apple fanboys it's nice to be dependent on itunes and apple.
DRM is OK for renting but not for buying.
How will Apple make money from Blu-Ray?
They will make money when someone like me buys a 17-inch MBP because it has a Blu-Ray drive in it.
I wouldn't buy a laptop that can't play the current optical media standard.
They will make money when someone like me buys a 17-inch MBP because it has a Blu-Ray drive in it.
I wouldn't buy a laptop that can't play the current optical media standard.
Yes, they will make money on your for that single purchase of the MBP. But it's the recurring "ching ching" is what (IMO) is behind the lack of putting a BD drive in a Mac, as I previously stated to Bishop1999
Let me begin by saying I sympathize with you regarding you being unable to play your preferred movie format on your desired means. The whole media format issue is a mess even subtracting Apple from the equation and what side you fall on in this debate.
However, I believe the running average for the last 50 weeks of 2010 for Blu-Ray accounted for less than 14 out of every 100 films on physical media (i.e. BD vs DVD) sold according to Blu-Ray.com. That, to me, would suggest BD has a way to go before becoming the current optical media standard.
Be like me and hold out for Red Ray.
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Blu-ray is D.O.A. in computers.
Blu-ray is D.O.A. in computers.
Stand alone Blu-ray players may survive a few years longer until they are sent to go hang out with the video cassette player, cd boombox, and dvd player in the basement/attic.
As a matter of fact, all external physical media is dead in general for the most part [except for local, non internet service based back-up purposes]; HDD, Optical Drives [CD/DVD/HD-DVD...lol!/BD], low capacity Jump/Flash/Thumb Drives].
Shortly, VERY shortly [Jan. 6th, 2011... Mac App Store... anyone? anyone?! Bueller?], the worldwide "cloud" [with the largest part now looming in North Carolina for the next 2 days] will have killed them all.
Good riddance.
No more physical storage limitations [dynamic expansion as needed online] moving parts and the fragility concerns, heat issues, and many other problems associated with them.
Intel's new Sandy Bridge second generation Core i3/i5/i7 series processors "now adds 1080p HD and content protection for those wishing to beam premium HD content from their laptop screen to their TV".
We'll be streaming 1080p and/or 3D content by as early as this year and it'll be fairly standard by the end of 2012 as the ISP's are already working towards accommodating the bandwidth requirements for this and should be capable of handling the load over the next year or two for the major markets. The smaller markets are slower to adopt anyway and will just have to wait it out a while longer and/or just buy that stand alone Blu-ray player in the meantime.
Today's streaming 720p is the near future's streaming 3D/1080p.
So start making space next to old audio cassettes, vhs tapes, audio cd's, dvd's/HD-DVD's [lol!], crashed HDD's, low capacity Flash Drives, and application installation discs, because Blu-ray discs are coming to live with them at their owner's homes... or just staying on store shelves until their final resting place is designated.
Blu-ray is D.O.A. in computers.
Stand alone Blu-ray players may survive a few years longer until they are sent to go hang out with the video cassette player, cd boombox, and dvd player in the basement/attic.
As a matter of fact, all external physical media is dead in general for the most part [except for local, non internet service based back-up purposes]; HDD, Optical Drives [CD/DVD/HD-DVD...lol!/BD], low capacity Jump/Flash/Thumb Drives].
Shortly, VERY shortly [Jan. 6th, 2011... Mac App Store... anyone? anyone?! Bueller?], the worldwide "cloud" [with the largest part now looming in North Carolina for the next 2 days] will have killed them all.
Good riddance.
No more physical storage limitations [dynamic expansion as needed online] moving parts and the fragility concerns, heat issues, and many other problems associated with them.
Intel's new Sandy Bridge second generation Core i3/i5/i7 series processors "now adds 1080p HD and content protection for those wishing to beam premium HD content from their laptop screen to their TV".
We'll be streaming 1080p and/or 3D content by as early as this year and it'll be fairly standard by the end of 2012 as the ISP's are already working towards accommodating the bandwidth requirements for this and should be capable of handling the load over the next year or two for the major markets. The smaller markets are slower to adopt anyway and will just have to wait it out a while longer and/or just buy that stand alone Blu-ray player in the meantime.
Today's streaming 720p is the near future's streaming 3D/1080p.
So start making space next to old audio cassettes, vhs tapes, audio cd's, dvd's/HD-DVD's [lol!], crashed HDD's, low capacity Flash Drives, and application installation discs, because Blu-ray discs are coming to live with them at their owner's homes... or just staying on store shelves until their final resting place is designated.
So you are seeing the writing on the wall too? I thought I was the only one here.
Having just returned from the UK with my family I can offer one option for your point about travel - sync some films up from your iTunes library to your iPad and/or iPhone and/or transfer to your MacBook and away you go.. My kids were fine watching movies on our iPad and iPhone on the plane, which given the absence of In-Seat entertainment on the old Delta plane we were on, was a godsend. That has to be easier than travelling with a batch of shiny plastic disks....
If you're at home and your internet connection goes out then yes, that would be bad, but if it's your own movie being streamed from your iTunes library you could continue to watch it from your main machine I guess. However, I suspect that if you realised your internet connection had just vanished continuing to watch the movie would probably be of secondary importance.
To the earlier point of downloading 50gb of data etc. of course you wouldn't. Today. My point is that the quality I receive from streaming via my iTunes library or rented movies through ATV service or netflix etc. is absolutely fine. No it's not Blu-Ray quality but its pretty darn good and the overall convenience factor far outweighs the (in my own personal opinion) marginal improvement in quality Blu-Ray provides.
Nope. Apple's had a history of removing removable media. Just another piece of history. I still wouldn't mind a BD drive with official support, but reality needs to be faced for us.
You can't look at it that way. You can't look at the avg for the last xx weeks and come up with a decisive conclusion for today, because that figure is static and doesn't show the growth over time, which is key for current trends and future predictions. I've been following bluray.com for a couple of years now and will say this: blu ray is taking over the living room as the media of choice for the home theater (over DVD). This trend is continuing to grow, due to the continuation of the lowering of costs for HDTVs and stand-alone BD players, backwards compatibility and upscaling of SD content (hence no need to replace one's entire collection, simply transition from one format to the other and continue), along with an increase in appeal for HD content and offerings by broadcasters (Comcast, DirecTV, etc.). TVs are going HD, and so are people in general. There's still a gap between computers and living rooms, so for now physical media like BD will continue to grow.
I think SJ doesn't like BD for 2 main reasons: licensing fees are too high for his liking and he's looking far beyond the physical media days, which he's already started with the Air, iPad and AppleTV.
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Fixed that there for you. MacQuest, you need to look up the numbers. Physical media is still very much alive, even music CDs, which still outsell digital files or streamed files in the cloud
OPTION 2
1. Go to macsales.com;
2. click on CD/DVD/Blu-Ray tab;
3. choose "internal solutions";
4. select Pioneer BDR-203 Blu-Ray Drive for $119 if he already has Toast 10; if not....
5. purchase a copy of Toast 10 for $65 or possibly less. If he already has a copy of Toast 10, but not the BD plug-ins...
6. go to Roxio.com and purchase Toast 10 BD plugins for $20.
Alternatively, if the objective is to play Blu-Ray films on a Mac, one could simply get a free ripper online and convert the film to a mkv file. Let's face it, what is more convenient: carrying around a bunch of fragile disks in boxes or converting them to a digital format that won't wear your laptop battery as fast as playing optical media?
Another option: hold out for Red Ray.
I have Qwest for an ISP and live in a rural area near Colorado Springs. Qwest makes it clear that upgrading their system here beyond the Minimum DSL speeds will Not Happen for many years. You and others who fortell the demise of physical media must live in the Shangri- La's of technology and I am happy for you.
Speaking of Red Ray.... Okay fess up, who did it?
The world's first shipped RED EPIC gets stolen in home break-in (update: $100k reward now offered!)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/31/the-worlds-first-shipped-red-epic-gets-stolen-in-home-break-in/
technically.......... red ray was DVD, red is a crappier wavelength (longer wavelength = less data density) than blue,
i believe the next one probably would be violet... or gamma.......
also buying a BD rom for mac is still useless, OSX itself does not support BD, ripping BD at a loss of quality defeats the purpose of BD
For Apple fanboys it's nice to be dependent on itunes and apple.
DRM is OK for renting but not for buying.
Well, I'd like to see anyone stream BluRay movies.
Because this is not practical, BluRay will always have iTunes and AppleTV beat on quality.
I think he was referring to Red Ray which is a 3.5yr old 'concept' by Red for a playback device.
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I've got windows in bootcamp partitions on both machines and in parallels as well. I use it when Jobs' fascism forces me to.
As far as recouping my investment? IN your dreams. I've got a better idea, I'll donate them to charity with a nice big press conference as to exactly why I'm doing so.
This guy? Short-sighted and selfish? You're kidding, right?
The shangri-la that exists up Steve Job's rear end.
Well, I'd like to see anyone stream BluRay movies.
Because this is not practical, BluRay will always have iTunes and AppleTV beat on quality.
If only those most in denial could actually hear. Sound apparently doesn't travel so well up ones' rear end.
You fire up your Apple TV, navigate to Netflix, sit back and break out the popcorn ....
Well, I'd like to see anyone stream BluRay movies.
Because this is not practical, BluRay will always have iTunes and AppleTV beat on quality.
The point is that Steve Jobs has determined the majority of people out there will happily forfeit the superior quality of Blue-Ray for the convenience of streaming...and I personally agree with him.
One example: I've been working my way through the Eureka series (which I just discovered) on Netflix and as far as I am concerned the quality is superb. BluRay may beat it but honestly I'm perfectly happy with the quality I am getting now via Netflix, AppleTV rentals, iTunes purchases and my own Handbrake ripped movies.
Cool. I think I'll just subscribe to Verizon FiOS and go ahead and make a Netflix account. The convenience of it sure trumps Blu-Ray.
Yeah, I'm very excited about the new Final Cut Studio coming out. Only the current version is what, 7 DVDs? Can't wait to download that.
Physical storage limitations are replaced with ISP bandwidth caps...
umm what? i dont sacrifice anything, i have both BD and netflix
with apple you pay a premium, by doing so that should include all options of media, but it doesnt, in this world you have to pay less for more which makes no sense
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