It's funny, I go to MacRumors.com News Discussion and immediately this article sticks out as it has nearly 5000 comments. And I'm sure Apple themselves monitor this site. They'll at least consider Blu ray. Of course, I've heard rumors that the MBPs will have no optical drive in the next update. I'd like to see Blu-ray drives as an option, but I don't see Apple doing this.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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Hey- I would like them to offer it as well, all I said was I understand why they haven't.
True enough.
I believe that it should at least be an option. If people want it then they should be able to have it.
Are we still talking about this? lol... 
Optical drives ---> dying/dead; Replacement: Stream, baby, stream. (plus "The Cloud", when capacity is sufficient and inexpensive enough for the masses)
Optical drives ---> dying/dead; Replacement: Stream, baby, stream. (plus "The Cloud", when capacity is sufficient and inexpensive enough for the masses)
While streaming may be the future, those who own a physical disc don't have to worry about an expired license. At any point, media that is streamed can have it's license pulled and will no longer be available until a new license is issued.
My 12-core and 8-core Mac Pros DON'T. When you're at that level of investment, talk to me.
I disagree. This thread could be also be killed off when a comet hits the earth. Or just Steve Jobs. And just as likely.
And if not, your new codec rendered useless by further net crackdown on torrents and thieves. And by still higher optical disc throughput and advancement. Far more likely.
What is ridiculous is not going anywhere until we have aircars because "they're just around the corner" because the Jetsons predicted we'd all be driving them by 1975.
Sometimes acclaimed "visionaries" just turn out to be certifiably nuts despite success facilitated by handlers. Add megalomania to the mix, and you have the CEO of Apple. Did anyone really think Howard Hughes was going to be the last in a very long line?
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Are we still talking about this? lol...
Optical drives ---> dying/dead; Replacement: Stream, baby, stream. (plus "The Cloud", when capacity is sufficient and inexpensive enough for the masses)
Well, L.A. must have some nice infrastructure...
so...again...
BluRay is specced ad 53,95 Mbit/s
40 MBit/s video
13,95 Mbit/s audio
Now, would you please wake me up when you have this kind of speed available all over the world, especially in rural areas.
Oh, btw, I don't live in the US and have an unlimited 30MBit line for little money - but as far as I've read here, there are caps depending on the ISPs beginning at 250 GB...
...which would give you the astounding number of 5 feature films per
month
Have I used enough rolling eyes? I think so...and last point
SALT - BluRay (Deluxe Extended version) - 14.95 on Amazon
- 3.27 GB HD-file - 16.99 on iTunes
Yeah, downloads sure will take off.
Despite some people's insistence that BR is a dead technology it seems to be doing well so far amidst all the media clutter. Of course it will die off like any technology but by the time it dies it would have lived a fruitful life
agreed. Sometimes simpler is better. I love tech as much as the next guy, but streaming can be a PITA - getting your network optimised, ISP caps, licensing, different codecs, does it work on a cheap STB or need an expensive computer connected to your TV (digital copy I'm looking at you) etc.
Or just stick a disc in and play.
Steve Jobs upgrades BluRay from "Bag of hurt" to "Mafia"
http://www.9to5mac.com/45693/steve-...c-MacAllDay+(9+to+5+Mac+-+Apple+Intelligence)
http://www.9to5mac.com/45693/steve-...c-MacAllDay+(9+to+5+Mac+-+Apple+Intelligence)
Well, L.A. must have some nice infrastructure...
so...again...
BluRay is specced ad 53,95 Mbit/s
40 MBit/s video
13,95 Mbit/s audio
Now, would you please wake me up when you have this kind of speed available all over the world, especially in rural areas.
Oh, btw, I don't live in the US and have an unlimited 30MBit line for little money - but as far as I've read here, there are caps depending on the ISPs beginning at 250 GB...
You can reach nearly the same quality with a good H.264 Encoder, like x264.
"“Professional” tools for Blu-ray video encoding can cost as much as $100,000 and are often utter garbage."
"With x264′s powerful compression, as demonstrated by the incredibly popular BD-Rebuilder Blu-ray backup software, it’s quite possible to author Blu-ray disks on DVD9s (dual-layer DVDs) or even DVD5s (single-layer DVDs) with a reasonable level of quality."
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/11658366/
Also take a look at this: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/11657899/
Assuming this is true, most people can't stream 6GB an hour to watch a 9GB 90 minute film. My theoretical maximum is about 3.6GB/hour (which I never reach), so I couldn't even stream a DVD5 "I can't believe it's not Blu-Ray" disc. And my connection is _above_ average in my country.
Thats not my point. My point was that it is possible to reach nearly the same quality if someone is using x264 with less bitrate.
And even 720p could be nice. Just iTunes 720p is "crap".
In a german forum someone wrote that he took a blu-ray and x264 (-> handbrake) with high profile + CABAC and other features. He made his own 720p film. The result was, that the quality was really good although the filesize was smaller, than that "garbage" that Apple is offering in iTunes/AppleTV and is calling "HD".
German c't magazin took a look at some streaming services and iTunes was at the last position in terms of picture quality.
So iTunes Store is everything but not the maximum in terms of picture quality.
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Fixed that for you.
And we basically don't need to argue that compression results in lesser quality. Yes, I know a lot of people confident with MP3 or AAC audio. I still prefer native CD format - and it actually is better and more dynamic, as long as you use the right equipment.
And we basically don't need to argue that compression results in lesser quality. Yes, I know a lot of people confident with MP3 or AAC audio. I still prefer native CD format - and it actually is better and more dynamic, as long as you use the right equipment.
But the Blu-Ray is not the "CD". The Blu-Ray is the "MP3"
-> They are using H.264/MPEG-4 AVC compression technology (some are using also MPEG2 or VC1).x264 (what handbrake is using), is a free h264/avc encoder. It is free and probably one of the best encoders (maybe the best).
So if you are "shrinking" a blu-ray (smaller filesize) maybe you will lose some quality (it depends), but the result can be still really good.
Again:
Diary Of An x264 Developer (*)
"“Professional” tools for Blu-ray video encoding can cost as much as $100,000 and are often utter garbage."
"With x264′s powerful compression, as demonstrated by the incredibly popular BD-Rebuilder Blu-ray backup software, it’s quite possible to author Blu-ray disks on DVD9s (dual-layer DVDs) or even DVD5s (single-layer DVDs) with a reasonable level of quality."
"To celebrate this achievement, we are making available for download a demo Blu-ray encoded with x264, containing entirely free content!"
-> http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/archives/328
(*)
"According to Apple Insider, the Messaianic chief Macolyte was asked what he thought of the VP8 WebM video in an email, to which Steve simply replied with a link to a posting on Jason Garret-Glaser's Diary Of An x264 Developer blog."
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You want BluRay...get a PC. This year's new Mac's will barely include a DVD drive anymore.
Hard drives are slowly but surely being replaced, too, by SSD's and PCIe solid-state flash and "cloud storage". I use hard drives solely for storage anymore.
Hard drives are slowly but surely being replaced, too, by SSD's and PCIe solid-state flash and "cloud storage". I use hard drives solely for storage anymore.
No Thanks. I'll stay with my dedicated BD player and PS3. No way will I ever buy a Windows PC again - I like my computers to work.
I'd rather have Blu-ray quality on a Blu-ray disc than "reasonable" quality any day of the week.
No Thanks. I'll stay with my dedicated BD player and PS3. No way will I ever buy a Windows PC again - I like my computers to work.
And PC computers don't? Then why all businesses prefer PCs? They must be stupid and you must be really smart
And PC computers don't? Then why all businesses prefer PCs? They must be stupid and you must be really smart
Don't waste your time, he spends hours bashing windows every day in order to make himself feel better.
And PC computers don't? Then why all businesses prefer PCs? They must be stupid and you must be really smart
Not true. Plenty of businesses use Macs, mine included. So if your assertion is true that "all businesses prefer PC's, I guess Apple must be dumb for investing in their business specialists.
http://www.apple.com/business/
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