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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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PeterQVenkman said:
I'll say the same about Blu-Ray. :)




It's toys! LOL.
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Yes, I am so frightened I own one. At the same time, I recognize that physical media is going the way of the Dodo.

As for phones and tablets being toys, fascinating. You must already be in a bunker.

Below is some light reading while eating your pork and beans out of the can. Feel free to use Google or Bing! to find many more examples of these "toys" in use. In the meantime, I'll keep posting the myriad of articles I come across each day that point toward Blu-Ray's thunder being stolen by on demand delivery.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...are_at_use_in_most_fortune_100_companies.html

http://ipad.ereaderjournal.com/2011/01/20/ipad-at-work-in-germany’s-bundestag/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8300902/Apple-iPad-enters-the-House-of-Lords.html

http://www.taintedgreen.com/governm...ld-use-the-ipad-instead-of-paper/000745/kr-13
 
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xbjllb said:
Good luck downloading Logic or FCS... INSTANTLY. (As if.)

Anyone who doesn't see that this is going to seriously degrade the quality of Apple Pro Apps and other REAL software is truly clueless.

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No luck needed for me - I have business class broadband with Comcast. Downloads are bang zoom fast for me!
 
xbjllb said:
Only seems that way to the ranks of the clueless who:

1. Haven't understood the need from day one
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So, you think that anyone who doesn't join in with and/or applaud your Apple-bashing tripe "doesn't understand the need because they're clueless."
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Bzzzt, wrong. They understand that some may have that need... but they simply don't share that particular need. All that the bad-mouthing accomplishes is to further alienate them. Perhaps you should obtain some clues instead. The onus is on you to communicate why those who don't share that need should care about it. It doesn't seem that you yourself care about others caring. You just want to bash Jobs, Apple and "clueless" Apple users... because that's your actual mission, and apparent source of pleasure.


xbjllb said:
2. Refuse to believe anyone who clearly states they have a need
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When "clearly states" also entails copious garbage spewing, one forfeits any (theoretical) moral high-ground.


xbjllb said:
3. Will NEVER understand the need and clearly are only here to troll.
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Correction: anti-troll.


xbjllb said:
Just your name alone tells anyone all they'd need to know about your state of mind in coming here in the first place.
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Again, that's my anti-troll moniker, and one of my tasks (anywhere) is to crush BS. You simply aren't who/what you claim to be [or you're certainly not comporting yourself in a manner consistent with your claims.] The readers can judge for themselves who's the "troll" here, since they're not nearly so clueless as you like to impugn.

BTW, what is "xbjllb" supposed to convey? Just looks like gibberish to me.
 
MacNewsFix said:
Somebody intimated they would hate to have to download pro applications on today's broadband.

I used to download entire pro applications and updates from Adobe, from time-to-time, on a 56K modem back in the 90's. You make due. I also remember when OS updates went to download-only; many people had conniptions at first ("But I don't have Internet!" LOL). Eventually, even they accepted the inevitable.

Besides, any professional worth their salt should have plenty of other work to keep them occupied until the download is complete (even if they are on the most sluggish of DSL connections).

P.S. If the thought of high-speed Internet scares you, find a nice bunker, and we'll come get you when it's safe to come out. Probably.
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Why should people "make due" [sic] when Apple could provide support for BD playback if they wanted to though, as is available on Microsoft's Windows OS? This isn't like software updates, it's being purposefully restrictive to try and damage the format. And that is bad for mac users, and I would argue bad for Apple, because it makes them look even more like the petulant arbitrary company its critics already accuse it of being.

Apple didn't drop support for CDs when they started selling music on iTunes, and that's done ok regardless. So why do they need to be such jerks about Blu-ray?

And I don't think people are 'scared' at the thought of high-speed internet! What a bizarre point to make. It's just that not everyone has access to it yet, and even if and when they do it's not the only reason people might want to use Blu-ray movie discs on OS X.

I'm really sick of people presenting downloads/streaming as the 'superior technology' and those favouring BDs as if they are stuck in the past of luddites or something. iTunes is arguably (at best) a superior method of distribution in many (but not all) ways - but what Apple are distributing is most definitely an inferior product right now.
 
OllyW said:
Downloads are supposed to make things quicker and easier but your idea is slower and more complicated. How is that solution better than buying the software in a box and loading it from a DVD? :rolleyes:
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ha, ha...

It's better - for Apple...

(I'm a collector - so that should tell you where I stand as far as physical media).
 
MacNewsFix said:
Yes, I am so frightened I own one.
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Um, ok? Me too.

At the same time, I recognize that physical media is going the way of the Dodo.
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Congratulations! I think I posted that a couple thousand posts back!


As for phones and tablets being toys, fascinating.
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Yup. I can't do anything close to my work on them. I use them for playing games. They are toys to me. Very good toys, too. I won't buy a Nintendo 3ds or Sony NGP, because I think Apple has them beat.

You must already be in a bunker.
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You're going to have egg on your face when the zombies come for you and you don't have a bunker!


Below is some light reading while eating your pork and beans out of the can.
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That's the best way to eat them. I also love your elitism. It's awesome. I'll read the articles while finishing off my latest tin of chewin' tobaccy!

Feel free to use Google or Bing! to find many more examples of these "toys" in use.
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I thought you were an elitist? Elitists don't use Bing! But really, I don't have time to Bing these topics. I'm finishing my bunker.

In the meantime, I'll keep posting the myriad of articles I come across each day that point toward Blu-Ray's thunder being stolen by on demand delivery.
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Have fun on Bing! But really, keep posting those articles. I'll read them, and it will get us closer to 5000.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...are_at_use_in_most_fortune_100_companies.html

http://ipad.ereaderjournal.com/2011/01/20/ipad-at-work-in-germany’s-bundestag/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8300902/Apple-iPad-enters-the-House-of-Lords.html

http://www.taintedgreen.com/governm...ld-use-the-ipad-instead-of-paper/000745/kr-13
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And with that, you fell into my trap. I was too lazy to google (not bing) the articles and secretly wanted you to do it for me. Thanks!
 
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PeterQVenkman said:
Apple is removing physical media as the push towards the cloud... hmmmm...

It's just another way for them to push you into a cage and take a 1/3 cut of developer sales.
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So I guess they'll be cancelling all the Pro Tools like Final Cut Studio and Logic soon, then. And how about Adobe & Microsoft products?
 
PeterQVenkman said:
I also love your elitism. It's awesome. I'll read the articles while finishing off my latest tin of chewin' tobaccy!


I thought you were an elitist? Elitists don't use Bing! But really, I don't have time to Bing these topics. I'm finishing my bunker.
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I find it interesting you refer to MacNewsFix as an "elitist" due to his stance on BD. In case you haven't noticed, the Verizon iPhone thread surpassed 5000 posts in 4 days while this thread has not even reached 5000 posts after six months. You see, BD is really not that important in Macs. This does not mean I am against the option for BD. I would not care if my next iMac had a BD player because it would most likely go unused and I would have OWC replace it with another SSD drive. Also, I live in a very healthy metropolis (some of my friends from states with less healthy economies refer to my city as "moneyapolis" due to the many Fortune 100 headquartered here) with a very healthy broadband connection. So 1080p HD streaming is a non issue for me.
 
How cool would it be to watch Blu Ray movies on your mac. I think Steve Jobs is making a mistake. Apple would sell a lot of macs.
 
linux2mac said:
I find it interesting you refer to MacNewsFix as an "elitist" due to his stance on BD. In case you haven't noticed, the Verizon iPhone thread surpassed 5000 posts in 4 days while this thread has not even reached 5000 posts after six months. You see, BD is really not that important in Macs. This does not mean I am against the option for BD. I would not care if my next iMac had a BD player because it would most likely go unused and I would have OWC replace it with another SSD drive. Also, I live in a very healthy metropolis (some of my friends from states with less healthy economies refer to my city as "moneyapolis" due to the many Fortune 100 headquartered here) with a very healthy broadband connection. So 1080p HD streaming is a non issue for me.
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I agree that one's view on BD isn't an inherent sign of elitism. If someone though keeps mentioning the affluent city they live in, the affluent businesses that are headquartered in said affluent city and the affluent people they know that work for said affluent businesses in their affluent city that might be a sign of elitism. Just sayin'.


Lethal
 
mac16 said:
How cool would it be to watch Blu Ray movies on your mac. I think Steve Jobs is making a mistake. Apple would sell a lot of macs.
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They sell a lot of Macs as it is....

I guess we'll find out with the next refresh - especially in the Fall (after the Back-To-School special).

My opinion is that the Mac Pro's and 15" & 17" Macs will get them as BTO only. The 13" Mac Pro's and iMacs will stay the same.

The Mini and basic MacBook will shed their optical drives... ;)
 
When you have topics on the internet of this magnitude, it is clearly evident that Apple has made a poor design decision Sure, it's acceptable to cater to the demands of majority- but in this case, the line begins to blur Implementation of Blu-Ray would only make millions of people happy- it's not going to make anyone angry (Why the hell do I have a Blue-Ray drive on my Mac?!? Somebody take it off! :mad:)
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Hi Xavier Barry Jullian Lazuras Larry Barrison. :p

IPHONE raises a good point. If Apple put Blu-ray into Macs, how many sales will be gained? Probably not that many. How many will they lose? None. There's nothing to lose by keeping up with current technology, especially if you make it BTO to avoid putting people out of your market.
 
linux2mac said:
Wow! In 4 days the Verizon iPhone thread hit 5000 posts. The BD thread is six months old and still has not hit 5000.
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Just a few days ago you guys were complaining about the size of this thread, now all of a sudden it's proof that people don't care about Blu-Ray. LOL.

If anything, the Verizon iPhone thread shows that for everybody who cares about Macs, there's 100 people who care about iToys. LESSON: People don't care about the Mac. Which is evidenced by Apple's neglect of it. People have been complaining about MacRumors no longer being about Macs for years. It's iPod/iPhone Rumors.

Which completely jibes with what we've been saying -- Apple is an iToy company and the Macintosh is withering on the vine. No Blu Ray, no USB 3, no eSata, no 30-bit color support, et al. Pro products like the Mac Pro, XServe, and Final Cut Studio are either already dead or dying.

Thanks for proving our point -- fewer people care about the Macintosh than the iToys. Most notably Apple.

But for the people who do care about the Mac, kindly point out a thread on the Mac that's gotten this big.
 
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dethmaShine said:
So 5000 posts for this? Is it the right decision if Apple is waiting for something or its just the Steve Jobs has a problem? I am sorry, I always wanted to follow this thread but it kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and I lost interest. :rolleyes:
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I dont think its the right decision at all. Apple can sell about anything, they would only make money if Blu was a BTO option. Jobs really has made it obvious he hates Blu ray although I bet he owns a player. It doesnt fit in his vision I guess, maybe his next acid trip he will see it or something. Nothing really to follow anymore, trying to hit 5000 posts though only a shade over a hundred away.

Just lots of D swinging back and forth now IMO. Its fun though.

EDIT: They are getting rid of optical real soon anyway, its easy to see that.
 
janstett said:
So I guess they'll be cancelling all the Pro Tools like Final Cut Studio and Logic soon, then.
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They've been letting FCS wither for some time now. That's one way to keep pro business without any cost. Don't cancel anything - just don't update it and let us believe something is coming.


And how about Adobe & Microsoft products?
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Adobe and Microsoft will decide if they cancel those, but we know there is no love lost between Microsoft and Apple, or Adobe and Apple: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsId=3221750

Apple and Adobe have had a tumultuous romance.
 
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