I'm not surprised. It's a big issue for a lot of people who enjoy consuming content on Blu-ray. I do rent from iTunes occasionally and stream to an AppleTV, but the picture quality is laughably bad when compared to playback from a Blu-ray disc. So I can see why customers might like to have the option of watching stunning HD movies on their 27" iMacs for example.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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I'm not surprised. It's a big issue for a lot of people who enjoy consuming content on Blu-ray. I do rent from iTunes occasionally and stream to an AppleTV, but the picture quality is laughably bad when compared to playback from a Blu-ray disc. So I can see why customers might like to have the option of watching stunning HD movies on their 27" iMacs for example.
And do we have Blu-ray yet? (In the answer lies the hint as to why there is still discussion.)
You'll never see Blu-ray in Macs now because it would mean Steve Jobs/Apple having to admit they got it wrong.
Why are you still here?
What does bitching about bitching achieve? That's assuming you see no value in this thread, which only reinforces why you shouldn't be here.
Just to get your panties in a twist.Why are you still here?
What does bitching about bitching achieve? That's assuming you see no value in this thread, which only reinforces why you shouldn't be here.
I'll quietly leave now.
No necessarily. Jobs has a habit of dismissing technology that Apple doesn't offer right up until Apple offers it then, low and behold, it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. And he did give a nod to Kindle during the iPad launch when in the past he said Kindle was a fundamentally flawed product because people didn't read anymore.
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Lethal, you're quite correct. I chuckle every time I imagine Steve announcing Blu-ray though. It's not like FaceTime, where he was right in saying that hardly anyone bothers with video calling (at least true in my world), but I think everyone will have a hard time stomaching that "Blu-ray is rubbish and no one uses it, until today, when we've made the optical drive even thinner".
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As Mal has pointed out, the "bag of hurt" is all about the licensing issues. Also, Apple is on the Board of Directors for the Blu-ray Disc Association.
http://dvdcreation.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=31197
Yeah, I think anyone that's hung around this thread this long is familiar w/Job's "bag of hurt" comment and understands there are licensing fees. Of course there are a number of other companies offering Blu-ray options so I can't imagine the fees being prohibitively expensive to Apples bottom line. Maybe part of it is that Apple is pulling a Walmart and refusing to play ball unless they get a deep discount?
Lethal
For a man that brought the music industry together and got multiple, massive corporations to work out their licensing issues, I think he's being disingenuous.
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No fair, that was my question!
We're all just shootin the sh** here, so I don't really expect evidence either way. It's fun enough to debate it.
I believe Apple already has this (or something similar) all in place for their own iTunes movie/tv show DRM.
Heck, one still can't take screenshots of DVDs in Apple's DVD player. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that it is already done, most likely it was done for the 27 inch iMac. For a company that had an intel version of Mac OS internally for years, DRM for Blu-Ray seems trivial.
No evidence. Just opinion.
Rather than wait for a 3rd party developer to cobble something together, our studio did what I think other people with our needs did - they just used Windows.
It seems shameful to get something to "just work" we had to boot into a different OS. That seems very un mac-like.
It's like waiting for Apple to get modern with open gl. Cinema 4d r12 runs so much better in windows on the same apple hardware it is ridiculous. As those situations mounted, we stopped looking for solutions on the mac and got the OS that did it all out of the box.
I believe Apple's customer base is used to paying a premium for the options they want and the machines they love. But I also don't think this thread would ever get Apple's attention any more than a survey would.
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Other than the licensing fees, Apple would also had to integrate the necessary hardware in its products. Which is: at least a Radeon HD 5xxx series videocard, or Geforce 425/480GTX, to be able to bitstream to an external HDMI receiver DTS-HD/TrueHD and Full 1080P video with no glitches/stuttering. And, of course, HDMI. As well also the necessary software (like TMT/PowerDVD) to do that.
There's something out there, already. But it's not something that everyone would find "useful" (http://www.dtshdforcompressor.com/justPressPlay.html).
And until then, like someone else said here, if one needs all these stuff (not only for entertainment, but also for work), is better off with a dedicated Windows machine, rather than wait for the magical "easter egg".
Other than that, it's very sad to see a company that developed great quality softwares (FCS, Logic) totally forget about its "non-Iphone" related market.
There's something out there, already. But it's not something that everyone would find "useful" (http://www.dtshdforcompressor.com/justPressPlay.html).
And until then, like someone else said here, if one needs all these stuff (not only for entertainment, but also for work), is better off with a dedicated Windows machine, rather than wait for the magical "easter egg".
Other than that, it's very sad to see a company that developed great quality softwares (FCS, Logic) totally forget about its "non-Iphone" related market.
The necessary hardware is already there (apart from the drive itself); movies can be played in Windows using the existing hardware.
under $100 is also under $200
Ha, ha...
The refurbished ones are reasonable...
I actually saw some Samsung NEW ones at Target's endcap on closeout (they didn't have any network capability) for $69...
Didn't you know? Frame by frame piracy costs the industry billions per year.
yes isnt that kind of a lose-lose situation there? it contradicts each other, if there were Apple members on the board then they should be able to give Apple an advantage. apparently not.
And each one is worth approx. $30,000 if they catch you with screenshots on your hard drive! Damn MPAA.
Blu-Ray also uses h264. And Apple is a licensor of that technology, too:
http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensors.aspx
I am confident Apple has found it's way out of tougher bags of hurt.
Exactly. He has the music industry by the short-hairs and he revolutionized how music is sold.
Even in movies/TV he hasn't had quite the thorough impact but has twisted some arms at very least.
This same guy, who's brought one industry to its knees and the other hunched over in pain, is afraid of the Blu-Ray association? The same guy who is the largest Disney shareholder and still influential at Pixar? Disingenuous isn't a strong enough word.
What gets me is the hypocrisy. If Blu-Ray is so terrible at Apple, why is it such a huge bullet point at Disney & Pixar?
Squeaky wheel gets the Blu-ray. They just have to outlive Jobs.
More like my PS3 gets the Blu-ray.
Get well soon Steve!
Maybe arn should have a special prize for the 5000th post in here - maybe a free Blu-ray movie...
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