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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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I agree, hence my signature.
Hopefully they'll surprise us and add Blu-ray support to Lion.
I agree, hence my signature.
Hopefully they'll surprise us and add Blu-ray support to Lion.
Congrats, Greg! Great work, all. The Verizon iPhone 4 people beat us to it, but we still made it!
Just goes to show you how important BD on Macs really is. So what's my reward for the "great work?"
I agree- the thread wouldn't have come this far if everyone agreed with Steve's decision...
The reward is up to you! I'm ordering a PC later this week as my own reward, and I picked up a copy of PMG Messiah Pro for $40 to run on it. A Blu-Ray player is standard on my model - for an extra $50, I can get a burner instead.
I'll still keep my tough MacBook Pro for consuming media and fooling around on the innernets - but all my work at home is going to Windows 7 to match my work environment.
My Mac will come in handy while the PC is rendering!
You get to present this thread to Steve.
Please direct his flight crew to MSP. I'll be awaiting his Gulfstream V (Do you think he has a BD player on it?). Also, can you make sure to have the alcohol freshly stocked?
The reward is up to you! I'm ordering a PC later this week as my own reward, and I picked up a copy of PMG Messiah Pro for $40 to run on it. A Blu-Ray player is standard on my model - for an extra $50, I can get a burner instead.
I'll still keep my tough MacBook Pro for consuming media and fooling around on the innernets - but all my work at home is going to Windows 7 to match my work environment.
My Mac will come in handy while the PC is rendering!
I rewarded myself ahead of "shedule" (Jean-Luc Picard) by pre-ordering the entire Star Wars BD collection on Amazon.
I rewarded myself ahead of "shedule" (Jean-Luc Picard) by pre-ordering the entire Star Wars BD collection on Amazon.
I may go for Parts IV-VI - can't play them on a Mac, though...
(ha, ha....)
I rewarded myself ahead of "shedule" (Jean-Luc Picard) by pre-ordering the entire Star Wars BD collection on Amazon.
Nice! That's still a ways off, but I can't wait to see that in Blu.
Please direct his flight crew to MSP. I'll be awaiting his Gulfstream V (Do you think he has a BD player on it?).
No...
Satellite Internet Service and an AppleTV with all his content streaming from Apple's Datacenter (Cloud)...
Indeed. I primarily only care about the original trilogy (Episodes 4 - 6) but Amazon is selling all six for $89 right now, so for the sake of completeness I figured I would get them all even though I doubt I will watch Episodes 1 - 3. (That "Frankenvader" scene was horrid in Episode 3 not to mention the JarJar disaster in Episode 1.)
Ah, but the podrace was a thing of beauty! And I will also stomach part of Episode II just to see the seismic charges go off (and to hear them in surround).
I'll suffer through the young Boba Fett's "acting" in that scene to see those bombs go off.
Hee-hee. What's the "start" of what? Did Mubarak liquidate a few assets or something? [looks like investors scarfed it back up rather quickly.]
"Pop" wut?
lol
I remember we had the Star Wars special trilogy on VHS, where they added various effects, like a monster in the pit instead of spikes (ep6?). Our friends had the standard edition (a lot more clever for its time), and I learned a lot of the differences.
Then came more special effects in the DVD release. Possibly even more again. Now the Blu-ray version probably has Shrek edited in or something. South Park is right in saying that Lucas can't leave his films alone. If I were cynical, I'd suggest that he was thinking "How can we make the original trilogy more like Episode 1?".
@linux2mac, nice avatar.
Then came more special effects in the DVD release. Possibly even more again. Now the Blu-ray version probably has Shrek edited in or something. South Park is right in saying that Lucas can't leave his films alone. If I were cynical, I'd suggest that he was thinking "How can we make the original trilogy more like Episode 1?".
@linux2mac, nice avatar.
I remember we had the Star Wars special trilogy on VHS, where they added various effects, like a monster in the pit instead of spikes (ep6?). Our friends had the standard edition (a lot more clever for its time), and I learned a lot of the differences.
Then came more special effects in the DVD release. Possibly even more again. Now the Blu-ray version probably has Shrek edited in or something. South Park is right in saying that Lucas can't leave his films alone. If I were cynical, I'd suggest that he was thinking "How can we make the original trilogy more like Episode 1?".
I would like to see an option included to view the prequel sans Jar Jar.
@linux2mac, nice avatar.
Thanks.
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Perhaps you've forgotten changing the ghost of Anakin into Hayden Christiansen? And Greedo shooting first?If I were cynical, I'd suggest that he was thinking "How can we make the original trilogy more like Episode 1?".
Hee-hee. What's the "start" of what? Did Mubarak liquidate a few assets or something? [looks like investors scarfed it back up rather quickly.]
"Pop" wut?
There's always a quick recovery the first time a bubble tries to pop.
Not so quick the second, third, and final times.
Have patience. The Enquirer pics of Jobs have yet to hit.
What a great solution for watching bd: buy windows-PC next to your mac. Another solution for authoring bd: avid or adobe for windows-PC. Finally the third solution: what to do with your mac & fcs: get rid of it?
Can you elaborate this "massive overhead" a bit more?
It is pretty sad that fanboys cheer about itunes music being drm-free and whine about bd's or hdmi's drm, but at the same time accepts itunes movies & dp's drm.regarding the "blu ray would require such low level breaking DRM programming in OS X": doesn't the new Apple TV have HDCP support/ DRm included ?
funny how it's not that much of a "bag of hurt" when it's about apple DRM
The whole point of protection is to be annoyance.
Every professional who buys/sells/designs these protections know that all will be cracked. The profitability is calculated by how long will it take before cracking becames so popular that it will really hurt the sales.
I guess that so far even dvd-un-drm'ing isn't so popular yet, that it wouldn't be profitable to use css.
How hdmi is ruined by rdm? You can use hdmi without drm.
How does it harm bd to support mpeg2?
If you want more quality, most important things would be global solution for getting rid of overscan in content and displays and getting more bit-depth in colors. (8-bits is fine for 100:1 contrast, but 10,000:1 needs more.)
To think more holistically about physical/digital and drm issues, I think that more interesting question is that will people accept, that they no longer own a copy of particular content, which they can personally use any way they want.
Drm'ed movie (all legal downloads) can always cease to work, if drm is cancelled. This can happen for multiple reasons, which average consumer cannot be held responsible for.
In analog age, I could record a movie from pay-channel and watch it at my friend with his/her vcr. Digital television recordings in stb are very hard to get out of the box and propably won't work in another pvr.
I now have ipTV channels, that I can't even record.
And digital downloads are the most restricted in usage.
So, in some ways the progress in content distribution has gone to the wrong direction wiving from the user perspective.
At the same time I can buy highest quality bd movies from play.com for 5-10€ including postage and play them in millions of bd-players in my "region".
If I don't need certain movie instantly, I just can't see digital downloads an option at all.
And the move from sdtv to hdtv makes things even worse.
My natural reaction for this is that I won't pay for pay-channels so much anymore. When I have less time to watch movies, buying few copies a month is also cheaper.
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Have patience. The Enquirer pics of Jobs have yet to hit.
Now there's a reliable news source.
Get well soon Steve!
It's not just about HDMI and the likes. I also heard some "fanboys" being extremely hypercritical towards studios (Universal, Paramount, Sony Pictures, etc...) for this "problem". And at the same time, those same problem continue to buy their products. So, yeah. This whole Jobs/Blu-Ray thing (because, in the end, it's just only Jobs fault) has rised more stupidity/deficiency than anything else.
Really, HDMI is not that bad at all once you get acquainted to it. And it's not just about sending video/HD audio to your TV/Receiver and follow the "rules", but it's also convenient for surround mixing, without having the need of buying an external expensive soundcard, for example. But, hey. Guess some fanboys don't even know that in the latest MBP models, Apple has even put a videocard with built-in 192khz/24-bit 6-channel HDMI audio support (Geforce 330M GT)
As for Digital Downloads, I buy all my BD's from either Amazon or Play.com. Sometimes I buy Region 1 BD's (when i just don't want to wait for the European release date), and sometimes Region 2 BD's. I have 2 BD players (one European and one US-coded), so i have no problem. I too really can't stand Digital Downloads, considering that with the same price, i can have the physical disc with 100 times better quality and with all the bells/whistles (TrueHD/DTS-HD). Not to mention that my Internet connection is what it is (6MB's/sec). I also live in Italy, so. If i wanted to buy a movie from Itunes, i just couldn't anyway (only music i can get
)Have never tried HDTV. But seeing how's get publicized here and the availability of HD programs it has (most just sport leagues, documentaries), guess i will just continue to buy my BD's.
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