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oh come on that is not even the best one. Apple tried to act like Mac Mini server was server grade stuff.

Lol. True, but I don't think apple specifically state 'server grade' drives in their spec sheet like they did with the time capsule. Which is an absolute lie and false advertising.

I'm surprised this story hasn't made the front page of MR. Would love to see the excuses of the Apple die hards.
 
Now I understand why some people do not get it yet that an optical drive-free laptop is the future.

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Why You Can't Win That Arguement on the Internet
http://lifehacker.com/5811255/why-you-cant-win-an-argument-on-the-internet
 
which future?

Now I understand why some people do not get it yet that an optical drive-free laptop is the future.

Actually, many of us *do* get that. It's just that we believe that the "optical-free future" is 5 to 10 years away.

We'd like to watch state-of-the-art movies in the meantime, and that means BD.

Tragically over-compressed 720p streams available to the upper tier of internet connections isn't the future. It isn't even the present.

ps: I own an "optical free" 12" laptop. I leave it at home and bring the full-featured 14" laptop for long trips where I might want to watch a movie.

pps: Both my 12" and 14" laptops have built-in 3G networking - a wonderful technology from the future. Someone should tell Apple about 3G/4G....
 
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pps: Both my 12" and 14" laptops have built-in 3G networking - a wonderful technology from the future. Someone should tell Apple about 3G/4G....
You sound like my dad. He pays for internet about 5 times. (home, office, Droid, laptop, iPad, Storm, I don't even know them all) Doesn't actually use it much, though.

Time to watch a bluray.
 
Same here, except for me the "state-of-the-art" experience does not include a laptop screen and laptop speakers. Would you happen to know where I can rent The Human Stain with Anthony Hopkins on BD?

So you prefer your home theatre powered by Windows or Linux?
 
Now I understand why some people do not get it yet that an optical drive-free laptop is the future.

Flying cars are the future but I still have to get to work TODAY.

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Same here, except for me the "state-of-the-art" experience does not include a laptop screen and laptop speakers. Would you happen to know where I can rent The Human Stain with Anthony Hopkins on BD?

"State of the art" would be having HDMI, multichannel audio, and Blu-Ray on a Mac so it can be used as an HTPC.

For me, state of the art is 1080p h.264 video, lossless 7.1 surround audio. Not some compressed to hell 720p Dolby Pro Logic trash that's barely at DVD quality.

Oh wait, having HDMI, multichannel audio, and Blu-Ray wouldn't even be state of the art. It would have been state of the art in 2007. Now it would just be catching up with everybody else.

By the way, that "you can't win an agrument on the internet" cartoon is from about 2007 too.
 
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Former Shake Product Designer: Apple Doesn't Care About Pro Market

More ammo for the argument that Apple is abandoning pros and high end users.

Former Shake Product Designer: Apple Doesn't Care About Pro Market


And back then the same questions were being asked as now - "Doesn't Apple care about the professional market?"

In a word, no. Not really. Not enough to focus on it as a primary business.​

-- Shake Product Designer Ron Brinkmann

Obviously it's the same about high end media production and consumption in general. There's no grand vision, there's just no reason other than Steve Jobs just doesn't care.
 
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Nobody tried?
Maybe I should ask from a different forum...
More ammo for the argument that Apple is abandoning pros and high end users.
Former Shake Product Designer: Apple Doesn't Care About Pro Market

And back then the same questions were being asked as now - "Doesn't Apple care about the professional market?"
In a word, no. Not really. Not enough to focus on it as a primary business.​
-- Shake Product Designer Ron Brinkmann

Obviously it's the same about high end media production and consumption in general. There's no grand vision, there's just no reason other than Steve Jobs just doesn't care.
I just hope Apple would sell OsX and proApps to someone how would mind about them, even if they are not as profitable than the next iGadget.
This way they wouldn't die like Shake.
Anyway, they are still making some money out of FCS, but for the customer this is the most expensive update so far.
Fcp+motion+compressor+finalduck=$900!
And that doesn't even include Soundtrack, DSP or Color...
Now I understand why some people do not get it yet that an optical drive-free laptop is the future.
Good for you, now it makes sense how you lost interest about what year Apple will have dominance in IT world.
Optical drive-free laptop done right:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1178226/
 
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I was just contemplating my tired old Yamaha 5.1 system, and thinking I could use a new one. Denon has a decent looking system out, the DHT-1312BA for only $600. I can put the Yamaha in the bathroom for 5.1 shower-tainment until the steam messes it up. Why shower with anything less than full surround-sound? Hahaha
 
Bluray is a bag of hurt. I'm glad Steve is continuing his dedication to making the perfect Mac.

If by "perfect Mac" you mean "dumbed down desktop iDevice". Ask all those FCP X users asking for refunds and going back to the old version. Next up for iOSification, Lion...

For movie lovers, Blu-Ray is a bag of ... popcorn and a good time, the best home theater experience you can get. But continue spouting meaningless nonsense because you love your Netflix over Wii on your 13" RCA TV.
 
For movie lovers, Blu-Ray is a bag of ... popcorn and a good time, the best home theater experience you can get.

Exactly, especially on a large screen (and by large I mean 90" or more).

But continue spouting meaningless nonsense because you love your Netflix over Wii on your 13" RCA TV.

The equivalent of watching BD on a laptop which is why I could care less about BD in my MBP.
 
Exactly, especially on a large screen (and by large I mean 90" or more).

I enjoy it immensely on my poor old 65" THX Plasma. Ghetto, I know, I guess I have low standards.

The equivalent of watching BD on a laptop which is why I could care less about BD in my MBP.

There is room between a laptop screen and a 90" projector. Such as the 1080p screens on the 17" Macbook Pros, the glorious 30" Cinema Displays Apple sells, or the wide range of HDTVs on the market ranging up to 73".

And on my ghetto 65" THX Plasma, I use a HTPC. Running Windows 7. Because a Mac can't play Blu-Rays or pass multichannel audio.

The PC does a superb job playing Blu-Rays, and hosting the 15 TB RAID that holds my DVD & Blu-Ray movies, and streaming my 3TB of music and 1TB of photos, and playing torrents of Top Gear and True Blood, and streaming things from the internet.

Such a shame the Mac can't do it. Being a Mac enthusiast it's disappointing.
 
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If by "perfect Mac" you mean "dumbed down desktop iDevice". Ask all those FCP X users asking for refunds and going back to the old version. Next up for iOSification, Lion...

For movie lovers, Blu-Ray is a bag of ... popcorn and a good time, the best home theater experience you can get. But continue spouting meaningless nonsense because you love your Netflix over Wii on your 13" RCA TV.

Let me guess: you were one of the people also saying "the iPad is just a big iPod touch and it will FAIL"

Innovation doesn't always go over well at first. In a few years this whole thread will be a moot point IMO. I've been saying for a couple years now that physical media is dead. I might be a little early in that assessment, but I really could care less if my computer has an optical drive at all. Blu ray is over before it started, and will never match the widespread penetration into homes that DVD and VHS did. Not with this many people having at least 10 Mbps straight to their homes.
 
Exactly, especially on a large screen (and by large I mean 90" or more).

The equivalent of watching BD on a laptop which is why I could care less about BD in my MBP.
How does your Denon give better bd pq than laptop or htpc connected to your projector?
(If you still resist to acknowledge that playing bd in laptop gives versatility to choose your watching location and display (attached to laptop) AND it gives you as good pq as any source with digital fullHD connection, you don't have to answer.
I also understand that piles of boxes made out of black plastic and tin can look good and therefore highten your movie watching experience.)
 
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How does your Denon give better bd pq than laptop or htpc connected to your projector?
(If you still resist to acknowledge that playing bd in laptop gives versatility to choose your watching location and display (attached to laptop) AND it gives you as good pq as any source with digital fullHD connection, you don't have to answer.
I also understand that piles of boxes made out of black plastic and tin can look good and therefore highten your movie watching experience.)

Why did people vote this post down? Everything you have just said is indisputable fact.

I'm done paying huge amounts for AV boxes in the lounge room, considering how the UIs are plain bad and every feature is far cheaper on an HTPC (or Mac, if Blu-ray were possible).
 
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