MCE Technologies have offered them for the Mac Pro for some time, and I expect any external drive that can connect via USB or FireWire should also work as a target device for burning.
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MCE Technologies have offered them for the Mac Pro for some time, and I expect any external drive that can connect via USB or FireWire should also work as a target device for burning.
Apple seems quite adamant that we can create / burn Blu-ray's with Final Cut. Where is the drive to do so?! Can sort of understand if it's not available on the entire range but maybe Mac Pro at least or something somewhere?
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/specs/
Apple finally, begrudging added very basic Blu-ray support in an attempt to appease pro users. They aren't going to do anything more than the bare minimum, IMO.
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GaGa earned 90 million the last two years. Does that make her the greatest and/or most influential recording artist/musician/singer of all time? Does that even put her in the top twenty?
What about her utterly talentless soft porn high priestess predecessor Spears?
I really wish intelligent people would quit equating success with quality. Stupid clueless people doing so I can understand. The rabble have to have their Horatio Alger myths or they'd kill themselves and not show up for work Monday morning.
Success, in THIS world, at THIS time, has absolutely NOTHING to do with quality, but rather upon how successful your P.T. Barnum ability to find that "sucker born every minute" is and how successful you (or your ability to get others to) market your "vision" to that sucker. Add to it "hard work" and "luck", a certain (too often reprehensible) "ability" to find and use other people's money, and a whole lot of "use" to the powers that be, and you too will be one of the most "successful" "visionaries" of "all" time.
Whether or not you actually service your consumers, as GaGa does, or defecate on your power users while pandering to your LCD base as Jobs does.
And may God and/or Universe save you from your "success".
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Well,
that was 2 years ago. FcpX is coming in this summer and I guess that Apple has to do also something to the other components of FCS.
If they leave DvdSP untouched after 5(!) years, users will move on to other apps.
Since there's no universal file format on the earth, we still need bd, no matter what. I guess this summer is end of waiting for many professionals. If Apple won't deliver and most bd-authoring apps are offered bundled, FCP's popularity (among professionals) is going down.
Avid knows why their their bundle for fcp users is on sale right now...
Bd-drivers are also now very cheap, media is getting cheaper and more widely used and you can already jump to BDXL (=BD2).
GaGa earned 90 million the last two years. Does that make her the greatest and/or most influential recording artist/musician/singer of all time? Does that even put her in the top twenty?
What about her utterly talentless soft porn high priestess predecessor Spears?
I really wish intelligent people would quit equating success with quality. Stupid clueless people doing so I can understand. The rabble have to have their Horatio Alger myths or they'd kill themselves and not show up for work Monday morning.
Success, in THIS world, at THIS time, has absolutely NOTHING to do with quality, but rather upon how successful your P.T. Barnum ability to find that "sucker born every minute" is and how successful you (or your ability to get others to) market your "vision" to that sucker. Add to it "hard work" and "luck", a certain (too often reprehensible) "ability" to find and use other people's money, and a whole lot of "use" to the powers that be, and you too will be one of the most "successful" "visionaries" of "all" time.
Whether or not you actually service your consumers, as GaGa does, or defecate on your power users while pandering to your LCD base as Jobs does.
And may God and/or Universe save you from your "success".
Now would you like to calm down and actually argue properly or keep on insulting people, thinly veiled behind "arguments"? Or better yet, tell me what I want to think because you have the mental cognition to infer a complex opinion based off a single sentence. All hail xjlibliblibliblublubbloobloo, fair and all knowing ruler of them all.
Your demeanor is like a mouse being angry at a piece of cheese. Hilarious, in a British sort of way.
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The leaked screen shots of FCPX show a similar "share" menu that's currently in FCP 7 and I think that's as 'updated' as burning to optical media is going to get from Apple. DVD SP 4, the current version, is pushing 6 years old and I would be really surprised if Apple did anything with it and I would not be surprised it officially gets EOL'd.
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Just seems a bit ridiculous since they do support it "sort of", and bang on about it in Final Cut so why not give the users the flipping drives, ie. built in ones. Not having to buy third party ones. DVD is still around but I mean come on, everything else is High-Def and no I don't really want to download from iTunes... really frustrating at times.
New Mac Pro rumours....? Highly doubt they will bring out Blu-ray drives then though.
It's worse than that. You can author and burn discs but you cannot PLAY them to even check your work.
Blu-ray finally dragged to apple, apple kicking and screaming as they enter tv biz
I am SO glad that people can rate these posts, Mister MINUS-TWO.
BLU-RAY FINALLY DRAGGED TO APPLE, APPLE KICKING AND SCREAMING AS THEY ENTER TV BIZ
But, much to your horror, BLU-RAY is FINALLY coming to Apple, Apple kicking and screaming as they enter the high-def TV biz.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/06/22/apple.tv/
Deepest condolences for all the fanboi naysayers. Seems Mr. Jobs didn't have to die after all for sanity to return to Apple HQ at Cupertino.
And to those dense who think Apple can sell cutting-edge TV's while pushing a computer line that doesn't incorporate Blu-ray, think again. Really hard. Big screen TV's and Blu-ray go together like GaGa and meat dresses.
And NOW we know where the 30" Cinema Display was buried. Must have galled Apple to see all those Mac Pros with Dell 30" monitors (like my two).
P.S. I can assure you this mouse has the least interest humanly possible in GaGa and Spears "cheese".
I am SO glad that people can rate these posts, Mister MINUS-TWO.
BLU-RAY FINALLY DRAGGED TO APPLE, APPLE KICKING AND SCREAMING AS THEY ENTER TV BIZ
But, much to your horror, BLU-RAY is FINALLY coming to Apple, Apple kicking and screaming as they enter the high-def TV biz.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/06/22/apple.tv/
Deepest condolences for all the fanboi naysayers. Seems Mr. Jobs didn't have to die after all for sanity to return to Apple HQ at Cupertino.
And to those dense who think Apple can sell cutting-edge TV's while pushing a computer line that doesn't incorporate Blu-ray, think again. Really hard. Big screen TV's and Blu-ray go together like GaGa and meat dresses.
And NOW we know where the 30" Cinema Display was buried. Must have galled Apple to see all those Mac Pros with Dell 30" monitors (like my two).
P.S. I can assure you this mouse has the least interest humanly possible in GaGa and Spears "cheese".
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Um for now it's just a rumour and surely what the article is saying that the TV will have Apple / iTunes built-in. Ie. just like having a normal TV with Apple TV feature embedded in rather than a separate box.
Surely that shows it's pushing ever harder to download only. Just can't see them supporting Blu-ray because of their whole iTunes business. Hope I'm wrong though.
Lol. Precisely. Seems to be self-contradictory. Doesn't make SENSE!
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Surely that shows it's pushing ever harder to download only. Just can't see them supporting Blu-ray because of their whole iTunes business. Hope I'm wrong though.
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Lol. Precisely. Seems to be self-contradictory. Doesn't make SENSE!
So I take it that any content in a Blu-ray compatible format requires HDCP prior to burning, even if it's not commercially-sourced?
Btw, can anyone recall any other moment in computer history, where you can write to a certain media or storage format, but you can't read what you have written?
Pretty crazy?
Why isn't the whole industry laughing at Apple?
Or maybe they are?
HAHA, I seriously doubt that anyone in "the industry" and by that I mean any part of the IT industry, is laughing at Apple, because guess what, is taking over and bankrupting companies like RIM, seriously threatening Nokia, brutalizing Microsoft in the mobile industry at least, so let 'em laugh themselves right into their proverbial graves or whatever alley companies go to surreptitiously leave the bar to cry...and die.
Anywho, now that I have procured my very first MacBook Pro, I am against Bluray drives for one reason: It would cost me more to obtain the MBP with the Bluray drive (let's call it the Super Duper Drive), only to open that baby up in order to remove it so as to put another SSD in its place. haha...Again, I absolutely loooove Bluray quality, but let it be in the form of a file that ends in .mkv or .m2ts and whatever else they may come in. The DVD drive is less expensive for me to remove and play frisbee with.
is taking over and bankrupting companies like RIM, seriously threatening Nokia, brutalizing Microsoft in the mobile industry at least, so let 'em laugh themselves right into their proverbial graves or whatever alley companies go to surreptitiously leave the bar to cry...and die. Anywho, now that I have procured my very first MacBook Pro, I am against Bluray drives for one reason: It would cost me more to obtain the MBP with the Bluray drive (let's call it the Super Duper Drive), only to open that baby up in order to remove it so as to put another SSD in its place. haha...Again, I absolutely loooove Bluray quality, but let it be in the form of a file that ends in .mkv or .m2ts and whatever else they may come in. The DVD drive is less expensive for me to remove and play frisbee with.
And what legal way do you have to get a BD-quality 50 GB 1080p .mkv file?
None? I thought so.
I don't think you know what IT means.
In the IT industry, no one is laughing at Apple because Apple is largely irrelevant. No roadmap = no sale.
It is absolutely mad and a dilemma. Guess they can continue to sell and do business if people keep on buying there products. iPhone, iPad, iMac...
I can't complain too much even though I'm desperate to have the Blu-ray drive, because I am buying an iMac to do my video edits because of Final Cut etc. (Well not sure about new FCX, but that's another matter).
Download isn't the solution for everything! When my finish edits are 10s Gb or just raw files from the camera. Since it supports authoring BDs, so why not give us the flipping drive already! Oh and if Apple's solution is iTunes / Download (quite clearly at the moment), it only supports 720p with Apple TV. Come on man!
Again contradicting with myself, people complain yet they're still growing and growing.
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Didn't Apple recently just overtook Microsoft as the most valuable tech company?
http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-LKDYHH1A74E901-3AB3K2DMH3Q8CJ87PFPPC97F0D
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HAHA, I seriously doubt that anyone in "the industry" and by that I mean any part of the IT industry, is laughing at Apple, because guess what,
Corporate presence for Macs is now up to 11%. Although 87% of corporate computers are running Windows, its pretty funny that a 10 year old XP still remains the dominant Windows version. What happened to Windows 7 being cutting edge? LOL
Macs Now Account For 11% Of Corporate Computers, Windows PCs Still Dominate With 87%
http://www.macstories.net/news/macs...utm_campaign=Feed:+macstoriesnet+(MacStories)
Anywho, now that I have procured my very first MacBook Pro, I am against Bluray drives for one reason: It would cost me more to obtain the MBP with the Bluray drive (let's call it the Super Duper Drive), only to open that baby up in order to remove it so as to put another SSD in its place. haha...Again, I absolutely loooove Bluray quality, but let it be in the form of a file that ends in .mkv or .m2ts and whatever else they may come in. The DVD drive is less expensive for me to remove and play frisbee with.
BD in my MBP would be a useless feature for my laptop needs. My optical drive is a waste of space in my 13" MBP. My next laptop will be an optical drive less MBA. I still like watching BD movies when they arrive from Netflix, but have no desire to watch them in front of a laptop nor on any of my Macs for that matter.
I don't know about the IT industry, But the post-production industry IS laughing at them- and cursing at them, too, all while trying to decide which editing platform to switch to now that Final Cut Pro, in a professional sense, is dead.
If an Apple-branded television does materialize, the shows you watch on it won't be edited with Final Cut Pro X...
Are we all blind and deaf?
After june 20th the writing on the wall seems pretty clear:
Apple has not the slightest interest, nor obligation, nor will it take any serious effort to serve the professional video or film industry anymore.
Roadmap for the future:
2011 final Mac Pro model line goes into production (EOL 2013)
2012-13 launch of a new Macbook Air iOS tablet hybrid
2014 EOL for iMac and Mac Mini
2015 EOL for OSX desktop version and the remaining line of traditional Mac notebooks
After june 20th the writing on the wall seems pretty clear:
Apple has not the slightest interest, nor obligation, nor will it take any serious effort to serve the professional video or film industry anymore.
Roadmap for the future:
2011 final Mac Pro model line goes into production (EOL 2013)
2012-13 launch of a new Macbook Air iOS tablet hybrid
2014 EOL for iMac and Mac Mini
2015 EOL for OSX desktop version and the remaining line of traditional Mac notebooks
Just about the only example I can think of is a cross compiler (something compiled for one system on another).
Imagine if Apple did this with the iOS development environment -- write and compile on OSX, and then copy it over to the iOS device to test, repeat. Thankfully they include a device simulator in the iOS toolkit. They aren't completely obtuse.
So, you're buying a laptop than can cost upwards of $4,000 and you're worried about a few tens-of-dollars difference a BD-ROM drive would add?
Didn't you already pay more for the MBP with the normal Super Drive which you discarded?
And the joke's on you -- the "drive-less" experience you clamor for will mean elimination of the optical drive bay altogether in the name of thinness, like the Macbook Air. So say goodbye to your 2nd SSD.
Where can I legally buy an HD .MKV movie?
I guess you don't deal with PRODUCTION SYSTEMS in your little business, eh? You don't fix what ain't broke.
There are lots of Macs that aren't running Snow Leopard either. And there's a lot of people here still running PPC Macs.
Agreed, I think the 5 year plan for Apple will see traditional Macs wither away to almost nothing and the mainstream products will be desktop iOS devices with large screens and keyboards running brain dead zombified iOS versions of apps. After Lion we may see a "Rosetta for iOS apps" on Intel.
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Starting to feel a bit worried about Apple professional side. Been using PC for 13 years and just invested an iMac hoping it would be professional and stable. Even willing to put up with high price and without BD. But they seem to be moving further and further away. Dropping the Servers, dumbing down FC ditching everything from before, App store, apps apps and some more apps.
Quite scary in a way...
Quite scary in a way...
And by these numbers, macs will dominate corporate IT in somewhere year 2100?
Even if OsX will disappear in 5 years?
Corporate IT does not need a file system?
How many thousands of posts would you need to understand that the OPTION for bd would not cost you a dime?
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Here's Apples idea of what is 'server grade'...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/25/updated-time-capsule-opened-server-grade-hard-drive-nowhere-to/
WD Eco drives. What a joke and not to mention a straight up lie..
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