Please Mr. Video Professional.
Explain how do slow copy-protected optical disks help with video production.
Pretty please.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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Please Mr. Video Professional.
Explain how do slow copy-protected optical disks help with video production.
Pretty please.
C.
Actually, it's finally making money.
http://www.slashgear.com/sony-final...e-no-price-cut-in-foreseeable-future-3092255/
PS3 was a loss leader anyway. Just a means to get Blu-ray to be the sole HD format. It worked.
Did it really?
There was a brutal battle, but by the time Sony emerged claiming victory, the sun had already set on the age of physical media.
Sony has been a one-trick pony, repeatedly launching new formats for a while. Blu Ray is certainly the last time it can play this trick. There will not be any more physical formats in the future.
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No. Hundreds of thousands of corporate Apple customers with a considerable corporate investment in Apple hardware and software beyond your wildest dreams WILL BE SUING Apple for misrepresenting itself as a cutting edge solution to video editing, video delivery, and audio-for-video creation. And for implicitly implying they would continue to be THE cutting edge solution for the foreseeable future.
And for the money it will cost those individuals, companies, and corporations (or has already cost them) to shift their entire inventory of equipment and software to another platform and replace it.
In short? A much-needed revolution against a company that promised one thing (cutting edge professional video solutions) and chose to deliberately deliver something entirely different (portable temporary iCrap iFad iToys for kiddies.)
OK, so, what's your beef, anyway? The Mac Pro is still hecka fast (that's a technical term) -- a 6-processor Westmere bump-up will be nice, but, modest, and expensive, the way Intel is pricing the new Xeons -- (look them up). They're also in short supply at the moment. How much are people willing to pay for ~50% improvement?
On the software side, sure, I agree, it would be nice if Apple released a 64-bit Cocoa Final Cut. But, I doubt if that many video production folks are anxiously awaiting that.
What exactly is bugging all those "individuals, companies, and corporations (or has already cost them) to shift their entire inventory of equipment and software to another platform and replace it"? Blue-Ray?
Thank you. You'll be surprised. And soon.
https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=20925693
And ONLY because it will keep you from iPad frisbeeing with Uncle Ernie.
Huh? The link does not work?
Can you explain in words, how a copy-protected, compressed, slow, optical disk format can help in the the production of professional video?
You see, I think I know a little bit about video production, and I get the impression you do not.
C.
Umm, yes, it did.
HD-DVD was the only competition, and Blu emerged as the winner.
The sun may be setting on the age of physical media, but you've got another decade to watch that sunset.
Thank you for admitting you don't know any.
Look. It's simple. If Apple wants to devolve into Wham-o, that's Apple's and Steve Job's folly and they are perfectly well entitled to do so.
What they are not entitled to do, is misrepresent themselves to their base for decades as PROFESSIONAL CUTTING-EDGE SOLUTIONS to CORPORATE PROBLEMS, SUCKER THAT audience into investments of hundreds of thousands of dollars, and then sneak off and make frisbees, transistor radios, walkie talkies, and chocolate slinkys because it pays a lot in the short run until everyone else catches up with you, saturates the market, and kids outgrow your crap and need real computers to work with. Computers they will be getting from someone else because you will be out of business.
Apple is not entitled to do that, and I don't believe that they can do that. But I'll wait and see what the law firms contacting me have to say about it.
You may be overlooking the fact that more content is watched via cable, broadcast and DVD.
BluRay won agains HD-DVD, but it is arguable whether the price paid was actually worth it. Sony are in a much worse state now than when they started the project. The cash cow that was the Playstation brand, is now a loss-making entity. (Despite them breaking even on hardware sales)
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The link works. I'm not going to repeat what I've explained ad nauseum over and over and over and over again for the past two years.
I just get a "search term not found".
I am saying (as someone who works in this area) that Blu Ray is irrelevant to professional video production. Your broken link does not seem a terribly convincing counter argument.
C.
Even longer if "broadband" bandwidth prices and availability don't improve in the US. I can average less than 1 MB/sec download speed at home. If ("real") BD-quality HD movies ever become available online, it would take a loooong time for me to download a movie at current speeds. If we ever get Gigabit to the Home, things become do-able. Until everyone realizes that 4K is what they really wanted all along to achieve film quality.
Now a bright lad would have been able to put down the Harry Potter, click on my name at the left in my post, and choose "find more posts by xbjllb" from the drop-down menu, which by the way WOULD TAKE YOU TO THE EXACT SAME LINK you claim doesn't work.
https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=20925943
Now a bright lad would have been able to put down the Harry Potter, click on my name at the left in my post, and choose "find more posts by xbjllb" from the drop-down menu, which by the way WOULD TAKE YOU TO THE EXACT SAME LINK you claim doesn't work.
https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=20925943
I am so bright, that I am not prepared to read two years worth of this blathering.
Kindly explain how a copy-protected, slow, optical disk format is useful for video.
C.
Anyone who claims to be in pro video, who cannot for a single second think of all the wedding videographers, bands, music companies, and filmmakers who have to send out finished and promo Blu-ray discs for clients to view on the 52-65" plasmas in their offices and/or homes is either a liar or merely as nuts as Steve Jobs and wouldn't understand business in the real world anyway, so why should I bother?
Anyone who claims to be in pro video, who cannot for a single second think of all the wedding videographers, bands, music companies, and filmmakers who have to send out finished and promo Blu-ray discs is either a liar or merely as nuts as Steve Jobs and wouldn't understand business in the real world anyway, so why should I bother?
Video professionals have no need for optical disks. Because BluRay is a compressed consumer format. Not a professional format at all.
Sending out BluRay wedding photography disks is just a tad lame.
BUT that option is already available on a Mac.
http://www.mcetech.com/blu-ray/
So perhaps your two years of blathering was all for nothing?
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Wrong.. Physical formats will last way past the future and here is why.. Until there is high speed(50+Mbs) internet covering every inch of the US and the world. There are people that do not have cable because they are to far out of the city limits.. I not talking about in the city but in between the cities.. Then maybe but there are people that do not have money for buying a PC then a blu-ray player.. Blu-ray player is cheaper to buy then a PC and a lot of people do not need a PC to watch movies.. I know people that are still using dial-up because it cheaper then High Speed Internet.. So until EVERY ONE IN THE US HAVE HIGH SPEED INTERNET. physical formate will be around for many many years..
My lawyers will talk for me from now on as far as you're concerned, since some people don't understand until they get the bill.
Movies, music - all that stuff are just files.
The internet moves files. That is what it is for.
If the internet is not available, we have hard drives, and memory sticks. Physical formats belong firmly in the 20th century.
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From the page:
http://www.mcetech.com/blu-ray/
"PRODUCT UPDATE: The latest version of Final Cut Studio has the ability to burn Blu-ray discs directly from Final Cut Pro 7 and Compressor 3.5 using MCE Technologies' internal and external Blu-ray recordable drives!"
Can you possibly be any more dense? Tell the guy in the local band he's got to send out 2000 memory sticks instead of Blu-ray discs he AUTHORED AND PROOFED on his mac, just not burned through a third-party program via an add-on drive. Or better yet, HARD DRIVES.
Take off the blinders. Not only is it dangerous, it makes you look and sound 8 years old.
Oh that's right, you ARE eight years old. I keep forgetting.
Burning. Wow. You just have to author them with a non-Apple program (and let me tell you ENCORE SUCKS for Blu-ray) and proof them on a windows PC or your 65" downstairs.
Lame. How you guys can argue for lame used to be enraging. Now it's merely pathetic.
You are not get it... Until every one has a Computer in there house long with high speed internet, then HDD and Memory are worthless then Physical format. Again it cheaper to buy a Blu-ray player to watch movies then buying a Computer. You know that some people do not care in owning a Computer, Hell there are people that do not even own a cellar phone.. Again until EVERY ONE OWNS A COMPUTER AND HIGH SPEED INTERNET.. Physical formats will stick around for a long long time..
P.S. Driving on the road then flying is so last 20th century lol.. Yet we are still on the ground... People thought in 2000 to 2020 we would be flying in flying cars yet we are still driving on roads then in the sky..
Don't worry, Slim. I personally guarantee Blu-ray will be around for at least a decade. I just dropped $2000 the last two weeks at the Fry's Blu-ray section, which much to Steve Job's horror is up to two full huge rows now, double what it was last time I was there.
And the Mac section? Decimated. Mac software? Ditto.
Jobs couldn't be more of an idiot if he tried.
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