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But Steve has the veto to say if a product is a "go" or a "no". That is of huge importance, and what got Apple back on its feet with Steve.

I'm sure decisions he makes are carefully considered after consulting his team, colleagues & board members. That's how a business operates.

Apple are a business at the end of the day, they want to make as much money as possible. That's all Apple are interested in - money. They do this buy selling products people need, or think they need.
 
Without Steve Jobs, what's going to be missing is new products that redefine a category and invent markets - nobody else outside Apple can do this, and I also believe that nobody inside Apple can do this - except Steve. The man's a genius, he's not replaceable.

From what we here of in the tales of development of product x. There is generally an early skunkworks phase to a product that then has to get noticed up the chain till it gets any where near Steve. Yes he clearly has an uncanny insight to what it needs to make it a goer, but so do all the people who've fostered the projected into a considerable state. So I don't think the "Magic" will stop if he wasn't there as there are clearly very smart people sowing the seeds and weeding out the duds. Maybe they will release some less popular products without Steve but still successful none the less, but Apple doesn't need him the way he was needed in 2000.

Yes they need to keep on the tracks that are taking shape they also have the scope to take some more risks as well, see if the talent down the chain has the magic touch.

I wish Mr Steve well and to have a good break. To come back when ever he's ready.
 
Tim Cook, no thanks. Give us the other Steve, just imagine what he could do!

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I really hope he recovers, and not so Apple has their mascot back.. Steve really knows how to run a business, and all these people trying to predict the company without him have no idea, as they have no idea what products will com out next. Even more personable than that he's just a great guy, who damn well deserves everything he's gained from his garage and the Mac1, to his 8 figure net worth. I'm sure he'll find the best care money, and being in the highest of high places can get him.

I would not be surprised if right now he was in a CIA medical facility undergoing some cellular re-genitive procedure, headed by the supreme leader of Mars..
 
I'm not sure if this has been said before, but I think many would consider Steve Jobs to be the Walt Disney of our time. Think of the innovations that Walt Disney made upon the world at the time....fast forward and look at the innovations that Steve Jobs has made. Interstingly enough, their paths cross at Jobs' and Pixar.

I hope Steve is around for many years to come....as Walt was taken from us far too soon.
 
This is one sad thing about Apple: Steve Jobs is so intertwined with Apple, if anything happens to Steve, it's big news. To many people, Steve Jobs is Apple. When Steve Jobs dies (not implying he will soon), Apple will suffer. If the past is anything to go by, Apple's stock will plummet, plus any Apple news won't be hyped as much, and I could see Apple becoming just another electronics company. As competent as Tim Cook, Jonathon Ives & all those guys are, they're not Steve. Steve has a certain charisma about him that no one else has.
 
Current pre-trading on the US Stock Market..

Pre-Market Real-Time: 331.62 Down 16.86 (4.84%) 9:02AM EST
 
30 "Positive" ratings on this story? What's wrong with these people?

P.S. Get well soon Steve.

While I certainly see one side to this question, let me also remind you that a glass can be either half full or half empty. Have you ever considered that a positive vote could mean that we are pleased that Steve is doing what needs to be done to go take care of his health, so that he will continue to be around for his family and his company?
 
...Steve has a certain charisma about him that no one else has.

Most of it is that Steve Jobs has created the computing world we have today and has driven the market and design for decades. Sure, he isn't everything, he didn't invent everything, he didn't do it all, he doesn't have complete control, but Steve Jobs has been the genius of home computing for the average person since he entered the field in the mid-70s.

So he has the vision because he opened a market, expanded it again and again, made semi-useful tech into universally craved tech, and his vision steers the market more than any other single person has done since computers were developed.

The best thing he does to connect to people is that he tries to connect to people. You think Steve Ballmer or Gates or any other major computer person connects with people? NO. They parade about like tyrants--I am here and I AM THE GUY. Steve has repeatedly come on stage to say, "This is what I have made FOR YOU. This is a new device I developed to DELIGHT YOU, entertain YOU, be easy for YOU to use. This device helps YOU. Please take a look at what we've done FOR YOU."

It's a no duh. Jobs does something few others do in the computer world, and it drives his entire philosophy. The guy gets excited when he creates stuff FOR YOU.
 
Steve Jobs is given credit for being the brains at Apple but people forget....he has also been the brains at putting together the management team at Apple.

Apple is what it is because of Steve Jobs and he has had the business genius to put together the best team in the World to run his company. Apple will be fine during his rest from the day to day grind.

Get well, Steve....although Apple is fine....you bring an excitement to the whole package that we all love.
 
Most of it is that Steve Jobs has created the computing world we have today and has driven the market and design for decades. Sure, he isn't everything, he didn't invent everything, he didn't do it all, he doesn't have complete control, but Steve Jobs has been the genius of home computing for the average person since he entered the field in the mid-70s.

So he has the vision because he opened a market, expanded it again and again, made semi-useful tech into universally craved tech, and his vision steers the market more than any other single person has done since computers were developed.

The best thing he does to connect to people is that he tries to connect to people. You think Steve Ballmer or Gates or any other major computer person connects with people? NO. They parade about like tyrants--I am here and I AM THE GUY. Steve has repeatedly come on stage to say, "This is what I have made FOR YOU. This is a new device I developed to DELIGHT YOU, entertain YOU, be easy for YOU to use. This device helps YOU. Please take a look at what we've done FOR YOU."

It's a no duh. Jobs does something few others do in the computer world, and it drives his entire philosophy. The guy gets excited when he creates stuff FOR YOU.

The MAJOR difference is that Steve is a great PR guy because he loves and believes in his products and presents them well. You don't think his (healthy) ego is equivalent to "I am the guy." Listen to what he says. He's well spoken - but the message is the same - he's going to tell you what you want and need.

He's no less a tyrant - he just presents himself in a different light. Why this thread has to turn into a PC vs Mac discussion baffles me.

Also - OVERcrediting Steve (although he definitely has had a HUGE impact) also serves no purpose.

There are a lot of people (mostly unnamed because they aren't CEOs or such) who have made the computer a household item and helped pioneer the industry.
 
For all of you invested in AAPL prepare for a bumpy day. The stock is set to open 4.6% down from Friday's close (nearly down $16). This should be an interesting day:rolleyes:

-Don
 
For all of you invested in AAPL prepare for a bumpy day. The stock is set to open 4.6% down from Friday's close (nearly down $16). This should be an interesting day:rolleyes:
I don't have the stomach to be a day trader. I bought AAPL in '98 when everyone told me that it had already peaked - I got the last laugh on that one. Given the limits of my own temperment, I'll likely hang on and only sell when the stock drops to twice what I paid for it, which I don't expect to see for quite some time.

Apple is a smart company, and the timing of the notice of this departure is not an accident. By releasing the news yesterday investors have had a day to consider all the factors, reducing some of the gut-feeling panic that drove much of the Frankfurt trading yesterday.

Moreover, today's trading will likely be tempered by their best-ever Q4 conference call, so what might otherwise have been a free-fall should hopefully be a more modest drop of less than 20%, a substantial portion of which I expect to see recovered by the week's end.
 
For all of you invested in AAPL prepare for a bumpy day. The stock is set to open 4.6% down from Friday's close (nearly down $16). This should be an interesting day:rolleyes:

-Don


To be expected. Silly knee jerk investors. Apple managed this well. While it opened down 4.6%, it has already recovered 25% of the loss. I bet it ends the day down no more than $5 from yesterday's close.

I then expect it to explode when Apple announces earning later. Based on my little AAPL online group, we're forecasting revenue of $25.7 billion and EPS of $6.29
 
Steve Jobs is given credit for being the brains at Apple but people forget....he has also been the brains at putting together the management team at Apple.

Apple is what it is because of Steve Jobs and he has had the business genius to put together the best team in the World to run his company. Apple will be fine during his rest from the day to day grind.

Get well, Steve....although Apple is fine....you bring an excitement to the whole package that we all love.

I agree. Steve Jobs is very important to Apple and I also think he has put a great team together and set good company guidelines. Everything will run just when when he is not there everyday. A company can't be better than the team(!) that is running it (only, the time needs some guidelines). The only thing to worry is, when Jobs is no longer CEO and some new CEO (from the outside) tries to 'change' things, like putting more focus on market share instead of smaller share with (almost) perfect products and huge profits. What I love about Apple is that they go the way of rather less features, but those well thought through. A new CEO might go the way of swamping the market with dumb half way thought through products. Hope Steve Jobs stays involved for a long time - even if it is only 1 day a week.

Get better Steve Jobs :apple:
 
For all of you invested in AAPL prepare for a bumpy day. The stock is set to open 4.6% down from Friday's close (nearly down $16). This should be an interesting day:rolleyes:
For those holding it long term they might as well just sit back and relax. Should only be stressful for the day trader sort—someone trying to suck out profits from the highs and the lows, and for them today is probably a great day. :)
 
Markets react to events like this as follows.

People sell because they fear others are going to sell. That self-fulfilling prophecy will bring the stock down. Say, it comes down to 320.

Others who bought the stock in the past week or two will buy more. Those who sold at $340 will consider buying it back.

These two factors will play during the day on Tuesday. The stock may stablize around 330. After earnings announcement, if it is above expectations, the stock will rally to the $350 level, if it is below expectations, will tank to the 310 level.

Hey, the market behavior was in the ball park of what I narrate above. It went down to 328 and then settled at 335. If a blow out quarter in terms of iPhone and iPad unit sales and better than expected future guidance should bring the stock to 345-350 levels. They key for the stock to move after hours and tomorrow is the results should be better than expectations and not just better than Apple guidance. And this whole SJ effect on the stock will soon be forgotten.
 
I knew today was gonna be a good day to short AAPL if you had a couple thousands laying around..
 
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