Change the world? really? LoL.... yeah kinda like finding the cure for polio or penicillin. I love when people spew bs such as this. He designed computers and electronic devices and no matter how much you and others like you want him to be he wasn't a god.
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Steve Jobs 'Worked Closely' on Design of Next-Generation iPhone with Larger Display
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Change the world? really? LoL.... yeah kinda like finding the cure for polio or penicillin. I love when people spew bs such as this. He designed computers and electronic devices and no matter how much you and others like you want him to be he wasn't a god.
Tell that to the developers of games and most of them will disagree with you. There are developers out there who want to control every pixel - and do so.
So please elaborate further.
Exactly,If I ever made an iPhone app (I don't know how to make apps at all though) but I would control every damn pixel. there are people that don't do that?
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I'm sure Steve 'worked closely' on the designs for the next 100 years like MR is going to claim, despite him having cancer and being unable to devote much of his real time on Earth to it in the end.
Basically, I don't believe it.
Because Cancer keeps him from being able to pickup the phone, right?
I bet if the next 3-4 iPhone releases came out in 3.5" screens with 'enhanced' features like LTE, higher resolution, more storage, etc that they would continue to sell and be profitable.
Personally 3.5" fits perfect in my pocket. I've tried 4" or 4.3" phones and it gets tough to move around. It also fits fine in my hand.
As Tim Cook, I would hate to be him right now that all this crap about SJ is going on right now. I don't think he has anything up his sleeve this year, but I sure hope by next year he has something new. And I want him to show it off, and when everyone is clapping and happy say, THIS WAS MY IDEA. Of course, with the help of all of Apple's current staff too.
That'll build confidence in the shareholders (and customers). I'd also see Apple stock pushing $650+
On the other hand, if Tim has nothing, then he better enjoy the next 2-3 years. After that he'd be known as the guy that let Apple fail. And that would be in history books for everyone to read generations down the road.
If I was Cook, I would expand into the TV market (into TV's only) and not make Apple an everything company. At that point you lose control over what made Apple what it is and gets harder for one person to oversee all the products and user experience.
Personally 3.5" fits perfect in my pocket. I've tried 4" or 4.3" phones and it gets tough to move around. It also fits fine in my hand.
As Tim Cook, I would hate to be him right now that all this crap about SJ is going on right now. I don't think he has anything up his sleeve this year, but I sure hope by next year he has something new. And I want him to show it off, and when everyone is clapping and happy say, THIS WAS MY IDEA. Of course, with the help of all of Apple's current staff too.
That'll build confidence in the shareholders (and customers). I'd also see Apple stock pushing $650+
On the other hand, if Tim has nothing, then he better enjoy the next 2-3 years. After that he'd be known as the guy that let Apple fail. And that would be in history books for everyone to read generations down the road.
If I was Cook, I would expand into the TV market (into TV's only) and not make Apple an everything company. At that point you lose control over what made Apple what it is and gets harder for one person to oversee all the products and user experience.
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Quite frankly, I don't care about what Steve thought was best for me, I like my phones to be small, so they fit into my life unobtrusively. 3.5" is fine for me, if they could fit a larger screen without increasing the size of the phone itself, that would also be fine.
But for me, the iPhone is already the largest phone i have had for many many years, and I wouldn't want it to get any larger.
I think that line is a bit overdone. It is probably a combination. However, carriers won't commit to so many pre-orders unless they think they will sell them. That number is ahead of Samsung's internal expectations, according to the report.
But that doesn't stop many on here from insisting that anything other than 3.5 is like holding a serving tray to one's face
Exageration perhaps?
And just to point out that in the UK at least, you can buy serving trays that are smaller than the 5.3" Samsung monstrocity.
Why is it that nobody seems to remember how mobile phones used to be mocked for their size, and that making them small and sleek has always been a key component of mobile phone upgrades.
Since when did it become unnacceptable to think that holding a large flat device to the side of your head looked a bit weird?
I have both an iPad and an iPhone, a larger phone would work worse as a phone than the iPhone, and worse as a tablet than the iPad.
Sheesh, when a phone becomes to big to be pocketable, and i have to carry it around in a bag, then i may as well use an iPad anyway.
I'm inclined to agree, but the thing is the carriers might not mind selling that inventory over a prolonged period. Of course, like any store the faster they can sell them the better. But since they already have the stores and the space, they might not mind holding on to the inventory for a little bit. So where I think the line is useful is that a final sale to the customer is a much more impressive measure of evaluating a company's success or influence. There are countless cases were inventories were purchased and expected to sell (otherwise that purchase would not have been made), and ended up being a flop, never translating into customer sales.
I suppose so far as Samsung is concerned, a sale is a sale, but I'm inclined to think more often than not talk of sales to distributors is simply inflated stats. Give me real sales numbers (user sales numbers), as the one we typically see with Apple, and then you might catch my attention.
If I may clarify then please, for the record...
You will not be buying any future phone from Apple if the physical dimensions (width & height) are any larger than the current model... Yes ?
The width of phones was considerably larger. Now that they are thin, the screen itself can be bigger. Phones with 4.65" screens fit perfectly in an average pocket.
Well there are many cases that can prove you wrong, however I guess this is simply your personal preference. In my case my bigger phone works a lot better than the iPhone 4, especially for web browsing - when I go back to the iPhone 4, web browsing feels claustrophobic. But again, that's a personal preference.
The main concern I have however, is the fact that many people seem to think the iPhone is being held back by it's 3.5" screen. Rather than embracing 4-5" form factors like it's rivals, I believe Apple has stuck with the 3.5" form factor to evade fragmentation. The point I'm trying to make is the iPhone is still the most popular smartphone on the planet with it's 3.5" screen and all. People still care about user experience, and the iPhone outshines all the rest in this area.
The rumors were that the delay in release from June, to October of last year was due to iOS. However I believe Apple wanted to push things back a bit regardless. With the changes from the 4-4S being only modest, and evolutionary. There's no reason at all to think the 4S was a last minute decision especially considering this had already been done with the iPhone 3GS.
This article makes perfect sense.
"according to one person with knowledge of the project. Jobs.... played a key role in developing the phone".
Well duh! Of course Apple would say something like that. What else do you think they would say? That Steve Jobs has nothing to do with the upcoming iPhone?
"according to one person with knowledge of the project. Jobs.... played a key role in developing the phone".
Well duh! Of course Apple would say something like that. What else do you think they would say? That Steve Jobs has nothing to do with the upcoming iPhone?
It makes me wonder if Apple is concerned about releasing a device that Jobs wasn't involved in. In other words, are they using Jobs as a motivator to sell another product? Would the same product not sell as well if they said Jobs was not involved?
I'm not saying that's fact, but it's something that crossed my mind reading this.
I'm not saying that's fact, but it's something that crossed my mind reading this.
The more I think about it, the more I think the new iPhone will look like a thicker 4G iPod touch but with a slightly curved body to accommodate a slightly curved 4.0 to 4.25" touchscreen display.
It's true that people take his word as gospel and, yet, anybody who has been following along knows (or should know) that Steve sometimes says things with misdirection in mind (to MS, Google, etc.) or simply watches the market to see if his prediction or assumption was correct (and responds accordingly if it was not).
Oh come on, is this another "Steve was right from the start, he was just MISDIRECTING" kinda' thing?
Steve probably didn't want a bigger screen, but realized that would be the only way to fit a battery large enough to power an LTE chipset with acceptable battery life.
Well, he left Apple a 4 year plan for product designs.
So it comes to no surprise that the first iPhone after his death is actually made by him, too.
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I've seen you post on Neowin all the time, but I've never seen you post here before...
For one, products take YEARS to design and develop, anyone with an inkling of business sense knows that. You can bet Steve had tremendous influence on next iPhone.
You don't think Steve Jobs changed the world with his foresight, innovations and skill to drive people to make cutting edge products? Have you seen how these products assist in the medical field, handicapped people, education, seniors, not to mention what it's done for the average consumer and business user. Yes, Steve jobs had an incredible positive influence, period.
The man has passed away, if you have nothing nice to say leave it alone.
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I have a feeling that to ease investors and fans alike that this will be the press release up until the iPhone 15
4", but no larger
I wouldn't mind if the next iPhone makes it up to 4". I may love it. I just hope they don't get wrapped up in the hype and make a huge screen like the Galaxy Tab. Part of Apple's success is owed to the "cool factor" their ability to appeal to tastemakers. Fashion and popularity starts with them and trickles down to everyone else. This isn't true everywhere, but for successful mass market items it is. Whatever your personal feelings about "kids these days", if you look in popular media and music, the tastemakers have skinny jeans and tighter clothing. Fashion is cyclical and this is much more like the 60s and 70s than the baggy 90s. Tech pundits in tactical and cargo pants might be the ones doing all the talking, but they are definitely not the tastemakers. An iPhone needs to appeal to the pundits but also fit in the pocket of a pair of skinny jeans. This is Apple's challenge.
I wouldn't mind if the next iPhone makes it up to 4". I may love it. I just hope they don't get wrapped up in the hype and make a huge screen like the Galaxy Tab. Part of Apple's success is owed to the "cool factor" their ability to appeal to tastemakers. Fashion and popularity starts with them and trickles down to everyone else. This isn't true everywhere, but for successful mass market items it is. Whatever your personal feelings about "kids these days", if you look in popular media and music, the tastemakers have skinny jeans and tighter clothing. Fashion is cyclical and this is much more like the 60s and 70s than the baggy 90s. Tech pundits in tactical and cargo pants might be the ones doing all the talking, but they are definitely not the tastemakers. An iPhone needs to appeal to the pundits but also fit in the pocket of a pair of skinny jeans. This is Apple's challenge.
not arguing that Steve Jobs was a genius in his own right. But you seem to forget that Apple is a company consisting of thousands of employees, including talented product designers and teams.
It's ok to give credit to Steve but don't forget everyone else that makes these products possible.
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well...
I had the same thought for moment then I remember Steve was working at Apple up the his very last days with us. I am sure there are 2 years of products already in the cooker at the time of Steve's death last October.
I had the same thought for moment then I remember Steve was working at Apple up the his very last days with us. I am sure there are 2 years of products already in the cooker at the time of Steve's death last October.
Really Bezetos?
Welcome to MR by the way, how's your first few hours going?
Interesting, you mouth off about being rude, yet your sentence in your very first post on the forum goes like this:
It will be funny to watch Apple fanboys explaining why now the new size is the perfect size, and not the previous one
Not only is your first post rude I believe calling people fanboys is reason enough to get warned or banned.
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