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Way to get personal without adding any value whatsoever.

Tim Cook is not worthy of talking about Steve's vision as if he understands anything about it. Prove me wrong.
Apple is worth more after jobs. That's enough proof to me.
 
There's a vacuum of passion in the industry since he passed away. I miss the fact that he had the courage to make decisions and stand by them and make their case publicly.

While i'm sure he was concerned about the "business", his interest in the products, the way they were manufactured, packaged, introduced, sold and worked *felt* genuine.

You could see him enjoying "wowing" the audience with the most minute of details, most other CEOs and project leads wouldn't even bother mentioning. Remember when he showed off magnification in the dock? or WiFi on the original iBook using a hula-hoop? I miss that.

Now, it seems like business men and managers run the show... willing to apologize instead of stand up for their teams, relying more on market research, trends and buzzwords instead of intuition..... And pretending to "care" as much as Steve did when he was on stage.
 
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Apl the company. apl websites and fans remind me of Egyptians :

SIX years later...

"Steve Jobs Theater" , flowery proclamations, scrolls?
Several really bad movies.
Endless YouTube "what steve said" snippets
Annual web posts..

He's gone ..let it go

RIP Steve Jobs, happy birthday MR site

Apl Park(s)...Will Tim get one , how about Woz, or Scully...will we get yearly updates and memorials after all of their passings? Will they be interlocking circles aligned with Orion's belt?
With every Iphone sale is that like making bricks for these Apl leaders?

All this really does posts like this one ..is it allow everyone to bash Tim annually on a dead persons birthday and realize how extremely lucky apl got with timing on on two product lines Apl2/Mac and iStuff starting with iPod....nothing more thats apl (overcharging at every turn, suppliers and consumers alike) . not really fair is it?

Pretty sad really some people are that into a single corporate leader even Hoover did not get that much press or limitless memorial services..was Apl your life ? Really? thats sad. Add up your apl $$$ purchases/bricks (do the math) and move on, do you need you name scrawled on one of the curved windows to move on ?. Let Steve Jobs go..that was ages ago. Was this article even necessary, what purpose did it serve? Could a been a mention of MR birthday and stopped with that without the focus on a six year old dead person.

Did people do this for Henry Ford LOL one could argue mass produced affordable Ford cars > overpriced limited smartphones from apl..I don't get this cult consumerism mentality. Apl tattoos, kids names what?

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Bolt man always making sense
 
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Happy Birthday. Crazy that I purchased my first domain name 17 years ago. How fast time seems to move.
 
The iPhone's web browser and operating system were at least 5-7 years ahead of anything on the market at the time.

Safari Mobile was very nice, but it was not anywhere near being the first full mobile web browser. Some that predate it are:
  • 2000 - IE 4.0 on my Jornada Win CE handheld.
  • 2002 - Netfront browser w/ HTML 4.01, CSS2, JS 1.5, and screen dragging.
  • 2004 - IE 6.0 on Windows CE enterprise devices.
  • 2005 - Minimo came out, a port of Mozilla. Very nice, but slow.
  • 2005 - Nokia ported Webkit to Symbian.
  • 2006 - Opera Mobile was getting popular.



Many of us in the enterprise world had been using Windows CE (not Mobile) devices since the turn of the century, with full Internet Explorer on board (unlike WM's crippled Pocket IE). I'd say that was the first full browser available on a handheld. Apple would've known that Microsoft already had such a full featured mobile browser available, one that only needed a few touch options.

The powerful Picsel document browser, dating from 2003, and which came on some Samsung smartphones by 2005, especially seemed to influence Safari Mobile's UI.

Like the other browsers mentioned above, it had full page rendering. It also had flick scrolling with inertia, a tap-to-zoom version with blurred view for speed, and miniature pages for history / bookmarks.

One of Apple's zoom patents even referenced Picsel as prior art. In fact, Picsel filed a lawsuit against Apple in 2009 over their implementation of zooming.


Not because Apple did anything new, but because Apple had skipped over any support for non-touch phones, a move which was very unusual at the time for anyone trying to break into the business world.

Apple made the Android team realize that they also should not worry about that, but instead concentrate on the already planned Android touch version.

(The intern quoted in that article as saying they had to start over, has admitted he made that up. I think he was honestly thinking about his job of making API demo apps, which up until then had all been keyboard driven.)

Sure, it was a smartphone. But it was so much more than that. It was the details.

Exactly. It was the combination of many previously known techniques in a user friendly package.
 
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You mean that same Tim Cook that was hand picked by Steve Jobs himself to become C.E.O of Apple.
[doublepost=1487942626][/doublepost]Happy 17th Birthday to Macrumours and 62nd birthday to Steve Jobs.

Everyone can make a mistake.
 
Steve Jobs, born on February 24, 1955, would have celebrated his 62nd birthday today.

Here we go again, talking about Steve would have done. Steve would have turned 62 today, he would have celebrated his birthday. Give it a rest, people! :)

But seriously, the world would have been a much different place were it not for Steve Job's vision and contributions. His mark on technology has been felt for generations and will be for generations to come.
 
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I bet if you met Steve Jobs at a coffee shop or something, he could change your life in 5-10 minutes. The guy truly was a genius and revolutionary; way ahead of his time, yet taken so soon.

RIP Steve
 
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And now we have an Apple that feels the need to make a political statement about everything.

Everything?

Not true. For sure on matters relating to Apple's customers (privacy/security, pushing back hard on government demanding iPhone backdoors, testifying before Congress, for example) and relating to Apple's employees (equal rights, immigration). The sign of a great CEO.
 
You mean that same Tim Cook that was hand picked by Steve Jobs himself to become C.E.O of Apple.
[doublepost=1487942626][/doublepost]Happy 17th Birthday to Macrumours and 62nd birthday to Steve Jobs.

Unfortunately Steve Jobs was not great with choosing CEOs for Apple.
 
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Unfortunately Steve Jobs was not great with choosing CEOs for Apple.

I don't see what Tim Cook as done that's so wrong, he's grown Apple since 2011 and it is now worth more than ever. personally I don't have a problem with the guy, but I suppose each to their own.
 
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Everything?

Not true. For sure on matters relating to Apple's customers (privacy/security, pushing back hard on government demanding iPhone backdoors, testifying before Congress, for example) and relating to Apple's employees (equal rights, immigration). The sign of a great CEO.

That's your opinion. My opinion differs. And that's okay.
 
I bet if you met Steve Jobs at a coffee shop or something, he could change your life in 5-10 minutes. The guy truly was a genius and revolutionary; way ahead of his time, yet taken so soon.

I've so far refrained from commenting in this thread, to let the Steve worshippers have their day, but this post pushed me over the line. Even some of his closest collaborators said he took too much credit for things. Yes, he was a good leader for Apple and he was a good salesman, making Apple products a status symbol for the cool crowd, but by most accounts he was a nasty person.

Genius and revolutionary? Puleeeezzze.
 
Everything?

Not true. For sure on matters relating to Apple's customers (privacy/security, pushing back hard on government demanding iPhone backdoors, testifying before Congress, for example) and relating to Apple's employees (equal rights, immigration). The sign of a great CEO.

Tim tends to change focus by telling you what you want to hear: "We protect your privacy" (A myth in todays Public Internet world) "We are very excited about our pipeline its amazing" ( see 2014 statement 2015/16 products) "we cannot access the iPhone secure enclave a key would make it hacakble" (But here's the icloud key to the backup..shhh) "We support rights" (but won't spend a dime) "We are the greenest company meet Liam" (glued in batteries make it dangerous to recycle and all that packaging too)

Tim like to paint things a certain way, he has lots of pressure from stakeholders and not many great innovations evidently.
 
Tim tends to change focus by telling you what you want to hear: "We protect your privacy" (A myth in todays Public Internet world) "We are very excited about our pipeline its amazing" ( see 2014 statement 2015/16 products) "we cannot access the iPhone secure enclave a key would make it hacakble" (But here's theiicloud key to the backup..shhh)

Tim like to paint things a certain way, he has lots aof pressure and not many great innovations evidently.

No, Tim actually does what I want him to do.

When the government demanded Apple create a shadow iOS version for the govt. to break into a seized iPhone he pushed back and said no. When they took Apple to court, Apple pushed back, and testified before congress speaking about why it was an awful idea for consumer security/privacy. The govt eventually backed down.

Where were the CEOs of the other tech companies? Rolling over apparently. There's a reason why the NY District Attorney only has an issue with the hundreds of seized iPhone that can't be broken into. Ever wonder why he doesn't have an issue with seized Android phones?
 
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