Still can't download 100mb + app over cellular? Really?

[IFRIT]

You must be in the only place in the world where unlimited cell contracts can be freely had.

Finland is one of very few countries where the unlimited data proposition still prevails

Exactly my point.
Finland is a "small" country (not in the geographical meaning) with only 5,5 million of citizens. It's not representative of european or USA situation.
Italy has 60 millions of citizens, Germany 81 millions, France 66 millions .... unlimited data plans are very rare there.

One of the main carriers in the UK which has a population of 65 million has unlimited data for £20 SIM Free monthly rolling contract with 200 minutes unlimited text and unlimited data, i pay the old price of £12.90. so i suggest you do more research before calling people liers...

http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones

 

[IFRIT]

A kid can. The difference is that in one case it would be downloading something from the App Store that is controlled by Apple and inherent to an iOS device, and in the other is that it's some data usage from another service (YouTube or something like that)--meaning in one case people can easily make the connection to Apple and go after Apple, while in the other it's not such a straight connection and certainly a way out for Apple.

How many times have Google been sued for people downloading too much from the Play Store, i would hazard a guess and say not ever..

 

[I7guy]

One of the main carriers in the UK which has a population of 65 million has unlimited data for £20 SIM Free monthly rolling contract with 200 minutes unlimited text and unlimited data, i pay the old price of £12.90. so i suggest you do more research before calling people liers...

http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones

Most of the world cannot get unlimited for a reasonable price. Here in the USA you can go T-Mobile but you sacrifice data for coverage and it's not really unlimited. Other than that there are no options. So my point is still valid.

 

[Closingracer]

I like the limitation being there, but it should be configurable. That way users can configure it for shared accounts (kids for example, or low data on shared), but you should be able to unlock the option if you want.

Carriers have ways to limit it on their side don't they?

 

[Closingracer]

Most of the world cannot get unlimited for a reasonable price. Here in the USA you can go T-Mobile but you sacrifice data for coverage and it's not really unlimited. Other than that there are no options. So my point is still valid.

Sprint * and T-Mobile both offer True unlimited data for an extra charge. and if you're using over 25GB which I think is the throttle threshold on those plans is more then reasonable. I watch a lot video like Netflix and Hulu on my way home from School and I average around 10GB of data usage per month. I think the most I have ever used in a month was around 17GB but that was because my Android phone at the time when it happened kept on trying to sync with the email client for a day or two I believe.

 

[Zaft]

I honestly have not had a big issue with this. Its mostly games that have big sizes.

 

[I7guy]

Sprint * and T-Mobile both offer True unlimited data for an extra charge. and if you're using over 25GB which I think is the throttle threshold on those plans is more then reasonable. I watch a lot video like Netflix and Hulu on my way home from School and I average around 10GB of data usage per month. I think the most I have ever used in a month was around 17GB but that was because my Android phone at the time when it happened kept on trying to sync with the email client for a day or two I believe.

But as I said its coverage vs data; which is a little off topic but if you don't have a signal all the data isn't going to help you.

 

[lordofthereef]

I actually just read another theory, in a MR article, no less, about why Apple does this.

Overall app size. Larger apps are forced to download over wifi, therefore developers push to keep their apps at a "manageable" size in order to have them be accessible to everyone everywhere.

I think that's actually plausible especially considering Apple recently bumped the size, showing they're clearly aware and temember that the limit is there but are unwilling to lift it completely.

 

[C DM]

How many times have Google been sued for people downloading too much from the Play Store, i would hazard a guess and say not ever..

And yet Apple has gotten sued over various random things of similar nature (that's without really knowing the details of Google which might have gotten sued over all kinds of stuff too).

 

[Zaft]

But as I said its coverage vs data; which is a little off topic but if you don't have a signal all the data isn't going to help you.

dont have a signal? A little over dramatic I woujd say. Sprint and tmobile work in just as many places as att and verizon.

 

[C DM]

dont have a signal? A little over dramatic I woujd say. Sprint and tmobile work in just as many places as att and verizon.

Surely not in just as many places and many people have and will attest to.

 

[posguy99]

How many times have Google been sued for people downloading too much from the Play Store, i would hazard a guess and say not ever..

Why in the world would you sue Google in this instance? Google isn't the carrier, or the phone manufacturer, and unless you're using a Nexus, you're not using a phone with AOS on it.

 

[Zaft]

Surely not in just as many places and many people have and will attest to.

My point is your downplaying unlimited data because you dont have it. Tmobile and sprint are competitive in every market.

 

[C DM]

My point is your downplaying unlimited data because you dont have it. Tmobile and sprint are competitive in every market.

I'm not really doing anything at all actually. That said, the comment that you replied to doesn't necessarily imply that that's what is in play there considering there are enough places for enough people where T-Mobile and/or Sprint doesn't have good coverage. In any case though, that aspect of it all doesn't really relate to the topic.

 

[I7guy]

dont have a signal? A little over dramatic I woujd say. Sprint and tmobile work in just as many places as att and verizon.

Not overly dramatic and now kind of off-topic. I do a lot of traveling in the US to less populated areas; places where the other carriers won't have a signal.

 

[posguy99]

dont have a signal? A little over dramatic I woujd say. Sprint and tmobile work in just as many places as att and verizon.

Except they don't, join the real world.

 

[HEK]

This is one of those no win threads. Combine this with complaint thread about wi-if assist. They cancel each other out. If Apple turns wi-if assist on as default they get complaints of too much data used. If Apple keeps large app downloads from happening on cellular, then get complaints of not allowing enough data used.

Once again Apple didn't satisfy every user. What's the matter with them.

 

[HEK]

But I'm able to do it on my android. Apple could simply put a warning that says "this app is over 100MB. Data charges could happen" That way the customer can't say "well I didn't know". If Google can do that on android, surely Apple can do the same. It's no excuse for Apple trying to tell people how much they can or can't download. I paid for this phone, not Apple. I pay my Verizon bill, not Apple. So I should be able to download as much as I want without Apple telling me I can't.

It was explained that kids downloading would most likely say yes and continue. What is so hard to understand. You can't satisfy everyone all the time. If this is such a terrible issue for you, like you download 100 plus apps several times a day. Perhaps this isn't the phone for you. Choices are available, each of us makes choice of what is most important and picks a phone. I don't see this as any kind of real issue at all. And I can wax on over and over what my opinion is, but won't.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

It was explained that kids downloading would most likely say yes and continue. What is so hard to understand. You can't satisfy everyone all the time. If this is such a terrible issue for you, like you download 100 plus apps several times a day. Perhaps this isn't the phone for you. Choices are available, each of us makes choice of what is most important and picks a phone. I don't see this as any kind of real issue at all. And I can wax on over and over what my opinion is, but won't.

First thing) For those parents who aren't on unlimited, they should monitor their kids instead of letting them just go "download crazy" on their phone. It would be same way if it the customer had a family account on Verizon or AT&T and their data limit was 15GBs. The kid decides to download like crazy and go over that limit and rack up some huge bill. But according to some on here, it would be the carriers fault for not monitoring the adult's child. Lol smh man. That honestly irks me to no end...when people refuse to take responsibility. Let's just blame it on the evil company.

Second thing) I actually like my iPhone but my god man, lets not completely ignore the shortcomings of both the device and Apple. This 100mb restriction, is a shortcoming if there ever was one. "You don't like this restriction, get another phone" My god, I've seen this type of comment on here on several occasions lol. "You want a phone with more RAM, get another phone" "You want a phone with a better camera, get another phone" Here's an idea, why can't Apple just get their **** together and stop with these weird ass restrictions?

Like I said, Apple just placing a simple "this game is over 100MBs, data chargers may occur" warning but still allow those who are on unlimited to download whatever they wanted...would be not only awesome but also fair to both limited and unlimited customers.

 

[freepomme]

I wanted to download a game from the app store to play during my lunch break at work. We don't have any wifi at work and the game is over 100mb so Apple is telling me it won't download until I connect to wifi. Why is this a thing?

Obviously this isn't a huge problem, I can just download the game when I get home, but it's pretty annoying to basically be told I can't use my data how I want. I have 15gb a month and I'm not going to go over on this game (and if I *was* going to go over, isn't that my choice if you warn me first?)

I searched the forum to see if there was a workaround for this and someone suggested that turning off the phone and turning it back on allowed the game to download over cellular but they must have patched that up because it didn't work for me. Is there really no way around this limit?

This is not patched up. Try it again.

Make sure in Settings that downloading apps over cellular is on.

Start the download, press Ok when the warning message comes up then just turn your phone off and back on.

It works.

 

[aarongranade]

unlimited doesn't really exist. It's just a marketing gimmick. The web is full of people complaining about being throttled in their "unlimited" data plans ...
The bandwidth IS limited, by definition.


It's not only Apple.
I have the same limitation on my Windows device.


In those developing countries data caps are even lower than in your country.

That's not entirely accurate. While Sprint has always indicated their prerogative to throttle, they have in recent months stated publicly that they will not due to net neutrality concerns.

See Sprint stops data throttling in wake of new Net neutrality rules http://cnet.co/1d3XrHx via @cnet

 

[dark_knight177]

I think it is a safe decision to keep that cap.
It doesn't just protect our data plan (I think average data plans as of today are about 1-2 Gb/mo at best), but it avoid the network to be saturated.

Also doesn't help the fact that average iOS apps are so bloated that they take 4 times the storage the same app takes in Android

 

[JackieInCo]

I don't know why this limit still exists on my iPhone/iPad when I can download a 2GB app on my Note 4 or any Android phone I have with no restrictions.

This is still one of the reasons that I jailbreak, to get around this 100MB restrict

 

[posguy99]

I don't know why this limit still exists on my iPhone/iPad when I can download a 2GB app on my Note 4 or any Android phone I have with no restrictions.

I don't know why people have such a hard time understanding why Apple would restrict this and why Google isn't relevant to whether an Android phone would restrict this.

Let's try one last time.

Apple owns the whole stack. The idiocy about WiFi Assist points out that the stupid will blame Apple for their inability to pay attention to their own data usage.

Google is responsible for Android, but probably one in ten actually associates Google with their Android phone. It's a Samsung, or an LG, or etc. If Google introduced a comparable feature to WiFi Assist into Android, the stupid would go after Samsung or LG, not Google.

Never mind that in both cases, the more correct target would be the carrier.

So yes. It seems entirely reasonable that Apple would put such a simple restriction in place. And no, all toggles in configuration settings are admissions that you can't get the defaults right. Put a toggle there, the stupid will turn it off, then whine about it.

 

[JackieInCo]

I don't know why people have such a hard time understanding why Apple would restrict this and why Google isn't relevant to whether an Android phone would restrict this.

Let's try one last time.

Apple owns the whole stack. The idiocy about WiFi Assist points out that the stupid will blame Apple for their inability to pay attention to their own data usage.

Google is responsible for Android, but probably one in ten actually associates Google with their Android phone. It's a Samsung, or an LG, or etc. If Google introduced a comparable feature to WiFi Assist into Android, the stupid would go after Samsung or LG, not Google.

Never mind that in both cases, the more correct target would be the carrier.

So yes. It seems entirely reasonable that Apple would put such a simple restriction in place. And no, all toggles in configuration settings are admissions that you can't get the defaults right. Put a toggle there, the stupid will turn it off, then whine about it.

Whatever your meaningless explanation is, it still doesn't make sense why iOS has this when no other mobile OS has this restriction in place.

I can take my sim out of my 6S and use it in my Nexus 4 and download the same exact app with no restrictions.