I'm just hoping the new Mac Pro will be like the old cheese grater one then i shall be giving Apple my cash for another Mac, there are a few games i would like to play at my desk where my Mac Mini is , but have to use my MacBook Pro for the Nvidia GT 650 in it , the Intel HD 5000 in the mini just is not powerful enough for City Skylines. I could get a 5K iMac but really want a modular based computer again but without the hell of Windows.
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Strong Demand for MacBook Pro Increases Apple's Notebook Market Share in Last Quarter
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I wonder why Tim-Apple are not showing the numbers per model???
Because if they reveal that it will show the true sales of the Macbook Pro...
Most Macbook sales are from other models.
Several of my friends (Pro Users) that bought the latest MAcbook Pro, they returned it within a week.
Because if they reveal that it will show the true sales of the Macbook Pro...
Most Macbook sales are from other models.
Several of my friends (Pro Users) that bought the latest MAcbook Pro, they returned it within a week.
"all-time revenue record of $25.8 billion" ... sponsored by ... us ! They make it sound like everyone is happy to pay the absolute maximum Tim Cook is able to milk from customers
Does apple break down their sales based on models? I played with the 15" MBP this past weekend, and that keyboard drove me crazy. Not only that, it actually was busted on the floor model, the spacebar was acting up.
The touch bar was cool, but i couldn't see the value of it yet as a replacement vs. add-on.
Edit: While some work colleagues switched to MBP (2015 model), others opted to go with Dell because of the 16GB RAM limit.
The touch bar was cool, but i couldn't see the value of it yet as a replacement vs. add-on.
Edit: While some work colleagues switched to MBP (2015 model), others opted to go with Dell because of the 16GB RAM limit.
Threads like the one below make me believe that the number of HP laptops with a price > 1000 USD is rather small:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/7abuub/out_of_4000_hp_11_g4_chromebooks_i_had_4_catch/
As with smartphones, Apple probably siphons away a huge percentage of the total profits in the computer and laptop market.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/7abuub/out_of_4000_hp_11_g4_chromebooks_i_had_4_catch/
As with smartphones, Apple probably siphons away a huge percentage of the total profits in the computer and laptop market.
PLEASE just give us a 15" option with no touch bar!
What are you pushing through it? I've been playing full-screen video for years on machines that are now 6+ years old and they don't break a sweat. Video playback hasn't maxed out Macs in years.
Under Steve Jobs, Macs were more expensive but better value. Under Tim Cook, Apple has just been screwing over its customers with years of neglect and profiteering... which is why the replacement for my recently broken iPhone won't be from Apple, and my 2011 (!) MBP replacement will be one of those gorgeous HP machines.
Those geniuses would cause the MacBook market share to skyrocket.
-More ports
-Cheaper prices
-better graphic card etc.
Excellent products are more than the sum of their parts. That’s why Apple still sells millions of Airs per year. You don’t get top of the line components at the lowest price tiers. Do you expect iPhone 8 internals in an SE?
Should Apple sell at cost? Raise the price and use more expensive components? Which would you do?
If you consider that a criminal plan you shouldn’t be an Apple customer, what you describe has never been the case with macs and will never be.
I'd be interested to see where they'd fall to if you took out MBA sales though... I know the air is still a premium machine, but it's pretty competitively priced with similar machines from other manufacturers.
I have always added an external quality keyboard to all my laptops for heavy typing. The laptop keyboard, no matter how good, used when no other keyboard available. Thus, renders the touch bar an expensive add on that is somewhat difficult to use while using the external keyboard.
I am hoping the next MacBook Pro offers some level of performance increase over my mid-2014 with 2.8GHz i7 processor, which was the fastest configuration available. The first version of the USB3.1 design offered a measly 3-5% increase in performance in certain categories, but decreases in others. The most recent release brought everything up over what I have, but at a performance difference ranging from 3-7%, which is not enough to buy a new one. The port removals are also a killer, but I can get past that if they can release a machine that is significantly faster than mine. It's hateful they won't increase the performance of base MacBook Pro with all of the ports.
If you consider:
-a smaller battery
-$99 subpar GPU
-flimsy keyboard (barely any issues with the old one)
-magsafe, glowing logo & ports removal
-the crapbar
-soldered components
-16 RAM limit
-palm rejection issues with trackpad
-display noise when the machine heats up
then maybe..
(it's not like American consumers don't have a history record on feeding greedy corps anyways)
I don't know if it is safari, youtube, or the graphics card. It happened on a 2015 macbook (the 12" rMB), and while it is better on the Pro it still happens. It is definitely not smooth playback using the default resolution. When I am connected to an external display it runs just fine, but I really think it is still an issue with the graphics cards not handling the retina display's that well. From my experience with multiple 13" retina displays (since their original release), it is an issue with the crappy graphics cards driving the retina resolution.
This is a MacBook Pro discussion, not Desktop systems. And again, your experience is still only a small sampling, just like mine is.
As far as pro Desktop side, I don’t really know Apple’s plans but agree with gripes about that it is too limited, and potentially dead as compared to before. I think the AIO Mac Pro is a huge mistake, and still have a 12 core cMP as my only remaining active tower.
On the subject of Notebooks, my use case falls outside of your limited scope. I use my 2015 MacBook Pro just fine for 4K video editing, and batch processing of thousands of photos at a time. While I know it is only a small sampling, I see plenty of them at venues I work, with people creating content with RED and other high end 4K+ cameras all the time.
There have always been more powerful options when compared to Mac computers, today is no different than a decade ago. There is more to people selecting the Mac, and OS X than just the hardware. It’s unfortunate that some people just don’t understand that, but it’s fine, vote with your own wallet.
I am with you on Apple picking poor GPUs in their high end laptops. Main reason I didn’t upgrade my 2015 model was because of their AMD commitment. This commitment to AMD also is quite annoying when selecting cards for my Mac Pro tower, they really don’t code much of their software for CUDA.
A TN panel in a modern >$1000 laptop and 5400rpm HDDs in an expensive Desktop computer are really at the bottom of the barrel. I can't call the MacBook Air an "excellent product" with that display anymore. I'm not sure it even saves Apple any money to forego higher quality components, certainly not much. Instead I'm guessing the pricing/configs are engineered to move customers up to a higher-end config who might otherwise be satisfied with the lowest-end config. Except it leaves a (large amount of) customers in the cold who remain unwilling or unable to pay more and who end up with a much worse experience than they rwould have to have.
My parents are using a 10 year old MacBook that would deserve a modern replacement. But the value in any of Apple's current laptop configurations is simply not there for them compared to what they're already using. The low-end configurations are a joke and the higher end ones much too expensive for what they're using the laptop for. So the 10 year old laptop will continue to do...
I think that most people have no idea about the often on Macrumors discussed reliability issue of the keyboard.
This is absolutely not true and pure appeal to emotion.
Ten years ago, apple laptops were the finest machines on the planet, bar none. They were faster than their PC counterparts, better constructed, and far more reliable. This is is simply not the case at present. The current MBP embarrassingly uses a processor that was close to a year out of date, when it was released. For the first time in Mac history, consumer reports famously did not recommend the new MBP. The touch bar is hit and miss. Some people liked, more did not. Few liked enough to add several hundred dollars to the price. In essence, it was in many ways a downgrade to 2015 machine. It certainly was no longer the undisputed king of the mac world.
These things are facts. This is not people randomly complaining, as you claim. Sometimes, people do complain for the sake of complaining. Likewise, some people celebrate things for no good reason. In this case, people were complaining for a valid reason. If it helps, remember Apple is a company that delivers a product. It is not a moral choice. It is not perfection incarnate. If you view it that way, perhaps you need more perspective on life.
Let's face it, the tech press selects for complaints, which is doing their job to some extent. How many people like the new MacBook Pro, and love the keyboard, and the connections, don't mind the odd dongle, and sign into here and rant about how much they love it? No-one. They have something more productive and pleasurable to do. For me, I've never owned a laptop of any kind. I used an old Duo on loan for about 6 months before I bought my first iMac. Do I beat you all up about that? No. I use an iMac retina. Then I have an iPad wifi only for around the home. And my iPhone, which is most most-used computer. I should say, I'm old. At my prime age for business, there were no computers at work except in accounting, and they were mainframes. Laptops were heavy and expensive and less powerful than the Mac Plus I bought in 1986.
I’m not trying to sell your parents a new MacBook Pro; it’s amazing that a 10 year old computer is still sufficiently performant. Not sure how much they paid but it was definitely more than $1,085, which is equivalent to $1,299 in today’s dollars.
That $1299 would buy an entry level MacBook Pro, for someone looking to buy today. Even cheaper with refurbished or when on sale. And it would easily outperform a 10 year old entry level Mac laptop.
Apple is selling more Macs year over year, even while the PC market as a whole is shrinking, and while the iPad and even iPhone has cannibalized Mac market share.
Would they like to sell more? Sure, but that’s not going to happen by adding some ports or having a keyboard with more travel, or any of the other things some seem to complain most about nowadays.
Real increases in sold quantity would come at a $300 or $400 price point, and that’s not a market Apple plays in, or computer they would put their name on.
This is true for a short time, however they did then change their minds
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/01/13/macbook-pro-consumer-report-battery/
Edit: seems to be getting good reviews for the general consumer at least https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/15/apple-13in-macbook-pro-2017-review-battery-life