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This is a prime example of microeconomics vs macroeconomics.

Apple, like any company is also affected by the market as a whole and news around the world. The lack of uncertainty of a successor to Steve Jobs and/or the lack of uncertainty to whether or not he will return to Apple full time is a small part of the bigger picture.
 
Android maybe a bigger OS eco-system, but the iPhone is still the single most popular handset on the planet.

Actually, Android is smaller than iOS (iPhone + iPod touch + iPad). In addition, very few people buy Android software. There is basically no money in it except for Google.
 
Actually, Android is smaller than iOS (iPhone + iPod touch + iPad). In addition, very few people buy Android software. There is basically no money in it except for Google.

Thanks for the insight! :) I thought they'd topped iOS.
 
You're looking at this as a consumer and not as an investor. Apple hasn't really done anything lately that gives a long term investor (those are the ones companies really want) a reason to buy and stick around.

Actually I think you’re the one looking at it as a consumer. Apple’s P/E ratio is 15.03 the last time it was that low was at the depths of the 2009 market crash. At that time the iPad was a huge gamble. Cut to 2011 and the iPad is increasingly looking like it will follow the iPod’s dominance in market share/profit rather than the iPhones dominance in profits alone. The growth for the iPad is massive, the growth of the iPhone is still quite large and if you were paying attention the introduction of iCloud is far more significant than photos and music. If Apple doesn’t blow it iCloud will be as important as the iPad.
 
Actually I think you’re the one looking at it as a consumer. Apple’s P/E ratio is 15.03 the last time it was that low was at the depths of the 2009 market crash. At that time the iPad was a huge gamble. Cut to 2011 and the iPad is increasingly looking like it will follow the iPod’s dominance in market share/profit rather than the iPhones dominance in profits alone. The growth for the iPad is massive, the growth of the iPhone is still quite large and if you were paying attention the introduction of iCloud is far more significant than photos and music. If Apple doesn’t blow it iCloud will be as important as the iPad.

So you are telling me that investing in Apple right now as a normal person who has maybe 2-3 grand the invest is a wise decision vs. something like a ROTH?
 
Lion

I've seen a couple negative comments regarding Lion. I think what Apple is doing with Lion is absolutely brilliant.

They are implementing many iOS GUI elements, allowing those couple hundred million iOS users to easily use a Mac. I find a lot of people are hesitant to switch over because of the perceived differences in operating systems.

There is still a lot of potential to grow for this already huge company.
 
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Go to any mall with an apple store. It's always the busiest store in the mall. Its like they're giving the stuff away. It's a lousy economy. Yet throngs of people are making big purchases at these apple retail stores from what I can see.
 
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Spoken by someone who clearly doesn't know WTH he's talking about. From any investment analysis perspective aapl is a screaming bargain.
 
So you are telling me that investing in Apple right now as a normal person who has maybe 2-3 grand the invest is a wise decision vs. something like a ROTH?


All I've seen you post about are 401ks and Roths, that's almost like putting your money in a standard bank savings account earning .01%. Do you hold shares of stock in any company or do any trading or are you too scared to take those sorts of risks?
 
So you are telling me that investing in Apple right now as a normal person who has maybe 2-3 grand the invest is a wise decision vs. something like a ROTH?

Of course not. A ROTH has tax advantages. But investing in Apple vs investing in an IRA are not exclusive. It's pretty likely the a considerable number of the funds that you can invest in through your IRA have Apple shares.
 
This is nonsense, considering the vast amount of factors that affect stock prices it's impossible to derive one single factor as a cause with any certainty.
 
You're looking at this as a consumer and not as an investor. Apple hasn't really done anything lately that gives a long term investor (those are the ones companies really want) a reason to buy and stick around.

iPad + iOS. They don't even need anything else.
 
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Mattie Num Nums said:
Of course we want to know what's next. But we were talking about the market and if it has anything to do with the fluctuation in Apple's stock, and of course it does.

So you're telling me that investing in a company without knowing any future plans and prices that are astronomical per share is a worthy investment? If you had 5 grand right now would you invest it all in Apple or put it into a ROTH IRA that would make you more money than that Apple stock would? The market is crappy because people make stupid decisions investing and the comments of users on this forum about how happy they are with their 10 shares of Apple is proof that people have no clue what they are doing with their money.


It was too much fun for him to resist of course. He also just tried to say the market had nothing to do with the fluctuations in AAPL but at least he now admits it does. Some people just feel the need to spin everything against Apple. I don't get it.

My entire retirement is waiting for me in Apple Stock. To me it doesn't matter I have close to 500 shares of it purchased at 25 a share. To me the more the price goes up the better.

Aapl high priced? Give me a break. It's dirt cheap, as any true investor knows Speaking of dumb statements. You state that one needs to choose between investing in a ROTH or aapl. No choice is necessary.
 
So you're telling me that investing in a company without knowing any future plans and prices that are astronomical per share is a worthy investment? If you had 5 grand right now would you invest it all in Apple or put it into a ROTH IRA that would make you more money than that Apple stock would? The market is crappy because people make stupid decisions investing and the comments of users on this forum about how happy they are with their 10 shares of Apple is proof that people have no clue what they are doing with their money.




My entire retirement is waiting for me in Apple Stock. To me it doesn't matter I have close to 500 shares of it purchased at 25 a share. To me the more the price goes up the better.

You realize that money in an IRA needs to be invested somewhere in order to make money, right? It is not an investment in itself. You don't seem to have much credibility for saying people have no clue.

If someone gave me 5 grand I might very well put 4 of it into a Roth IRA and invest it in AAPL. Then I'd buy a MBA.
 
don't read too much into it. the entire stock market has been going down in the past two weeks.
 
You realize that money in an IRA needs to be invested somewhere in order to make money, right? It is not an investment in itself. You don't seem to have much credibility for saying people have no clue.

If someone gave me 5 grand I might very well put 4 of it into a Roth IRA and invest it in AAPL. Then I'd buy a MBA.


So you would be purchasing three shares of AAPL at the current market price and using what, credit to purchase the MBA?
 
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