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Super AMOLED Plus would be 5 steps forward. Adjustable color saturation and no more PenTile. Use your head man.
thanks for backing me up. i think sometimes we fail to embrace the amazong technology that we come across only to downplay it for the love of fanboyism.
 
Heh it's true. Basically anything that Apple doesn't do is useless (remember the fanboys who said that a higher resolution screen was unnecessary? AF camera? higher quality cam in general? camera flash? etc.) according to the people here :(

If Apple ever does embrace another type of screen technology (be it a variant of AMOLED or otherwise) I'm sure the people on here will be screaming at the top of their lungs that it's the greatest screen ever made.
 
If Apple ever does embrace another type of screen technology (be it a variant of AMOLED or otherwise) I'm sure the people on here will be screaming at the top of their lungs that it's the greatest screen ever made.

Same thing with widgets. If Android uses them, it's useless. If iOS5 uses them, it's the greatest thing ever.

I look forward to next Monday where we're going to see iOS doing catching up being hailed as a revolution. At least we'll get to see Mac OS X Lion which is actually going to be useful.
 
Better camera with autofocus? Oh no we don't need that. What do you want the iPhone to be, a DSLR replacement? The 2MP fixed focus camera is just fine!

A flash? Night shots? Insanity!

We've seen this many times- if Apple has 'x' feature/function/spec, it's the best idea ever, and anyone else who has the same feature (whether or not it was released afterwards) is a copycat. OTOH, if Apple doesn't have 'x' f/f/s, it's horrible, a waste of battery, poorly designed and completely useless.

*sigh*

I wonder what iOS5 will bring to the table. And how many threads will pop up saying Android sucks immediately after the keynote... :p
 
Now you can understand what everyone who doesn't have/want an iphone has had to endure for the past ~4-5 years.
 
I would take a Super AMOLED + display over a Retina display, but that's just me, both are amazing though.
 
Definitely Amoled is better. People say the colors are saturated, but that' how colors shoudl look, just ask a profesional photografer.

And google choose Amoled for a reason!!!
 
Definitely Amoled is better. People say the colors are saturated, but that' how colors shoudl look, just ask a profesional photografer.

And google choose Amoled for a reason!!!

Apple chose IPS for a reason, too.

And this professional photographer disagrees with you. :)
 
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Since this thread was bumped again I may as well add my 2c about the keynote.

Look at Apple's incredibly original idea about a slide-down panel for their notification system!
 
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Since this thread was bumped again I may as well add my 2c about the keynote.

Look at Apple's incredibly original idea about a slide-down panel for their notification system!
At this point we don't care where they steal... Uh..get their ideas from, as long as they implement them!
 
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Since this thread was bumped again I may as well add my 2c about the keynote.

Look at Apple's incredibly original idea about a slide-down panel for their notification system!

Yeah people wanted it and apple did jt. So? You android fellas now feeling jealous?

Remember when android was a bb clone and changed once shmidt changed companies?

iOS lacks something: point to cry. It adds something, people start crying again lol.
 
and what is it with Android people and weather widgets? Do you REALLY need to be constantly looking at the temperature outside on your screen? Come on. :rolleyes:

I might quickly want to know what the weather will be like tomorrow, or for some reason see what the actual temperature is today, different people need different things :rolleyes:
 
I might quickly want to know what the weather will be like tomorrow, or for some reason see what the actual temperature is today, different people need different things :rolleyes:

There's an app for that.

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If Apple did include widgets, all the droidboys would be here saying "Ohh Apple is just copying Android with widgets blah blah blah" It's quite annoying, and people are pretty childish.

If you don't like what iOS has to offer, get a different device. Are things really that complicated these days?
 
Love em or hate em, widgets are coming to iOS. iOS5 includes all of the required frameworks to support them and includes two with the OS (weather and stocks). All that's left is to expose it to third party devs (don't hold your breath, it may not happen until iOS6).

But the real question is, what does this have to do with AMOLED vs LCD?

I've said it before, LCD was the right choice when the iPhone4 was released. AMOLED tech has improved a lot in the last year and may finally be a good fit for the new iDevices.
 
Order: Super AMOLED (galaxy s), iPhone 4 , iPhone 3Gs

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Some folks really have no clue what they are talking about :rolleyes:

You must be joking if you think an LCD has better off-axis viewing than an OLED screen... :eek:

Watch this video and see as the TV hits 180 degrees how the image never shifts in brightness or color? There's no way an LCD (that's by definition backlit) can ever compete with an emissive display like OLED in that regard.

Video:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/03/lgs-31-inch-oled-spin-slices-its-way-into-our-cold-lcd-hearts/

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Before June 2010:

"480x320 resolution is good enough! What's the point of adding a higher resolution if I can see everything just fine on a 3.5 inch screen?"

After June 2010:

"the resolution on the Android phones can't match up to the Retina Display!"

ROFL, exactly! The guys who try to suggest OLED isn't dominating due to the one aspect of resolution seem to forget that running any screen at a higher resolution ALSO requires more CPU/GPU and memory to run. Also eats more battery life.
 
lol at the "quality/resolution of the screen" being "totally meaningless" to you.

Thats just about the most asinine thing I've ever heard. Why would you pay as much as you might for an iPhone if these sorts of things are meaningless to you?

The retina display is a game changer, plain and simple. I remember the first day I used it after 2 years of iPhone 3G usage and let me tell you, it makes a difference. A huge one. If you want to throw your money away thats fine but most of us care about what we get when we're paying thousands of dollars over the course of the contract to use it.

The Apple display isn't a game changer in any sense of the word. OLED displays are the real game changer; brighter, better color, perfect contrast, better off-axis viewing, faster pixel response and refresh rate, and when Samsung starts using all the PHOLED color materials (RGB) from Universal Display the OLED screens will easily beat the power consumption of any LCD as well.

Add to that when FOLEDs (flexible OLEDs) are in use, starting next year, they will allow new form factors for devices that have never existed. THAT's a game changing technology, not a simple resolution update to 20-year-old technology.

Samsung to mass produce flexible OLED displays by 2012:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/flexible-amoled-oled-screen-folding,12929.html
 
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You must be joking if you think an LCD has better off-axis viewing than an OLED screen... :eek:

Watch this video and see as the TV hits 180 degrees how the image never shifts in brightness or color? There's no way an LCD (that's by definition backlit) can ever compete with an emissive display like OLED in that regard.

Video:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/03/lgs-31-inch-oled-spin-slices-its-way-into-our-cold-lcd-hearts/

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That would be a valid point if we were talking about TVs. But Mobile devices? Come on now, I don't think anyone plans on looking at their phone in such an extreme angle.
 
I'm sure he did, but SAMOLED =/= SAMOLED+. You are right that AMOLED was not of sufficient quality when the iPhone4 was launched. Apple made the right decision at the time.
The real question is whether the tech has matured enough to replace LCD on a 2011/2012 iPhone.

If it doesn't it's going to be a LONG year for Apple, sitting on old LCD technology as every other high-end phone on the market has OLED displays getting better performance and battery life.
 
I dont think it looks awful. The only real difference is that my screen has a bit of a blu tint next to the iP4 but as far as it looking clear, ...being a 4" screen i like it better. It is clear and bright(though i keep my brightness at only 20%) and just bigger. Saying it was like looking at your 3G is just ridiculous.

Ill also say this, the screen on my Vibrant scrolls much smoother and freely than the iP4 does. Maybe the iP4 i was using wasnt very good for some reason but ive also done it at a Best Buy and the newest iPod and my Vibrant is much smoother.

Part of that could be CPU/GPU but what's more likely the biggest impact is that OLEDs perform so much faster than LCD.

The fastest LCDs today have a 2 ms pixel response. OLED displays are .02 ms or less (2 orders of magnitude faster). OLEDs switch as fast as integrated circuits; there is no display faster.

The best LCDs have a 120Hz or 240Hz refresh rate. OLEDs are 600Hz refresh rate or faster. Around 3-5 times faster.

OLEDs also dominate on contrast ratio, boasting the best blacks you can possibly get (pure black; emissive pixel tech with zero current to a pixel equals no light). Contrast ratios from 10,000:1 to 1,000,000:1 are what OLEDs do.
 
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That would be a valid point if we were talking about TVs. But Mobile devices? Come on now, I don't think anyone plans on looking at their phone in such an extreme angle.

He stated that LCDs had better off-axis viewing; I was correcting him on a point that he brought up.
 
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