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Super AMOLED vs Retina

ajarnfalang said:
Widgets will never exist in an iPhone the way they do in android. Forget it. Just get an android then.

Apple may come up with a kind if live icon or notification system but widgets as we know them don't fit in an iPhone. The design, simplicity and the way iOS and osx are alike. There has to be a design continuity from the iPhone to the mac.

I don't think the next big iOS update will include widgets. Doesn't make sense.

I don't need to see the stupid temperature outside on my screen all the time. What are you? The channel 5 weather man?

And there are plenty of sports and news apps with push notifications. You don't need a widget cluttering your screen throwing crap in your face 24 hours a day. A simple notification circle is enough to let me know I have 3 or 4 new sport notifications and I'll check them when I have time.

I really don't see the big deal with widgets.
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Exacly, widgets won't be revolutionary, i don't understand how its drawing al of this controversy.
You can accesss all of the data through the internet and widgets save 5 -10 seconds but block the screen

No.Thank you


SAMOLED vs RETINA

which one is better? I'm interested in more opinions.
 
I haven't tried tried SAMOLED+ but i prefer Retina to the original SAMOLED.
 
Other phones
- poor design (small icons)
- poor quality touch screens

Thus needs to use some gimmick technology that don't work better.
 
Forgive me if this has been stated already, but

Super AMOLED vs Retina :: Apple vs Orange

One is a display technology and the other just a definition from Apple of a dot pitch density. If I'm not mistaken, there's no reason we couldn't eventually have a retina display using Super AMOLED technology. The question this thread is based on makes no sense.
 
callmemike20 said:
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I know there are previous threads on this, but I want to focus more on the new windows phone 7 phones. While using a friend's samsung focus, I noticed how bright and big the screen was. But, I noticed that the pixels are clearly visible. I know it's a bigger screen than the iPhone and it has a lower resolution, but my question is: why do people find this screen to be so great when it's very pixelated?
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I agree completely, AMOLED/SAMOLED is simply more colorful. The resolution is way worse and more like the iPhone 3GS in terms of resolution compared to retina.
 
I own both the iPhone 4 and Samsung Galaxy S II so I see both the Retina Display and the Super AMOLED+.

For anything that involves small texts (like surfing the web), the Retina Display wins but as long as you hold the phone further away from your eyes, or if you're doing anything that doesn't involve tiny fonts such as playing games or watching videos, the Super AMOLED+ wins. It's much brighter and vivid - makes the Retina Display seem washed out.
 
ImperialX said:
I own both the iPhone 4 and Samsung Galaxy S II so I see both the Retina Display and the Super AMOLED+.

For anything that involves small texts (like surfing the web), the Retina Display wins but as long as you hold the phone further away from your eyes, or if you're doing anything that doesn't involve tiny fonts such as playing games or watching videos, the Super AMOLED+ wins. It's much brighter and vivid - makes the Retina Display seem washed out.
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Most valuable input here, you should share more since you are one of the few users that has both devices, perhaps making a thread with comparisons?
 
L I G H T I N G said:
Most valuable input here, you should share more since you are one of the few users that has both devices, perhaps making a thread with comparisons?
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There's not much point doing that in this forums. There are far too many haters who won't accept that iPhone 4 is simply not as good. If I make it it's just going to lead to flaming anyway. There's already a SGS2 VS iPhone 4 thread so let's just leave it at that.

I'm happy to answer any questions though.
 
ImperialX you are the man.

If it weren't for you and Annk this forum would suck full of ignorant haters that think their iphone is better. LOL how can you compare the crappy iphone yellow screen with the crystal clear SG2.
 
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Appslover said:
ImperialX you are the man.

If it weren't for you and Annk this forum would suck full of ignorant haters that think their iphone is better. LOL how can you compare the crappy iphone yellow screen with the crystal clear SG2.
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I've used an iPhone for four years and I'm certainly no hater. I just use whatever is the best.

I wouldn't call the iPhone 4 display grainy by all means. It is a very good display and I think it's better for anything text related. The SGS2 is better for video. Each have their own advantages. I think you're an Apple hater to be honest. Why are you on the forums?

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
 
RebeccaL said:
Engadget did a comparison with many pics of both screens.

http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-display-face-off/#3115595


Personally I find the colors on SAMOLED look too saturated specially green and blue. This makes all pictures look like if they where HDR. If Apple goes SAMOLED I hope they wait for the technology to have more accurate color reproduction.
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Ewww the Galaxy S looks disgusting next to the iPhone 4.

It was like looking at my 3G again...
 
SAMOLED is dumb, unless Apple uses it.
Widgets are dumb, unless Apple uses it.
BluRay is useless, unless Apple uses it.
USB 3.0 is dumb, unless Apple uses it.
Come on guys. All these things are awesome pieces of technology.
 
Maverick1337 said:
Ewww the Galaxy S looks disgusting next to the iPhone 4.

It was like looking at my 3G again...
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I agree that the Galaxy S pentile display looks terrible, but we are talking about the GSII display. My concerns about this display tech are mostly calibration (software correctable). I'm looking forward to seeing one in person.
 
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serialtoon said:
SAMOLED is dumb, unless Apple uses it.
Widgets are dumb, unless Apple uses it.
BluRay is useless, unless Apple uses it.
USB 3.0 is dumb, unless Apple uses it.
Come on guys. All these things are awesome pieces of technology.
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You obviously didn't see the comparison pictures between the Galaxy S and the iPhone 4. If apple were to use the same display as the galaxy, it would be 5 steps backwards...use your head man
 
Maverick1337 said:
You obviously didn't see the comparison pictures between the Galaxy S and the iPhone 4. If apple were to use the same display as the galaxy, it would be 5 steps backwards...use your head man
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I'm sure he did, but SAMOLED =/= SAMOLED+. You are right that AMOLED was not of sufficient quality when the iPhone4 was launched. Apple made the right decision at the time.
The real question is whether the tech has matured enough to replace LCD on a 2011/2012 iPhone.
 
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Maverick1337 said:
serialtoon said:
SAMOLED is dumb, unless Apple uses it.
Widgets are dumb, unless Apple uses it.
BluRay is useless, unless Apple uses it.
USB 3.0 is dumb, unless Apple uses it.
Come on guys. All these things are awesome pieces of technology.
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You obviously didn't see the comparison pictures between the Galaxy S and the iPhone 4. If apple were to use the same display as the galaxy, it would be 5 steps backwards...use your head man
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Super AMOLED Plus would be 5 steps forward. Adjustable color saturation and no more PenTile. Use your head man.
 
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Super AMOLED Plus would be 5 steps forward. Adjustable color saturation and no more PenTile. Use your head man.
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+more efficient

some people have their head real far up apples ass :rolleyes:
 
What we have here is another slight of hand trick. Designed in a very misleading way, so as to make sure the iPhone can be awarded the "win".

Then leaving room for excessive Android bashing, thereby fulfilling the Apple Advocates thirst for victory.

I don't see the need to win much less, setting up a comparison between the top of the line LCD vs. a mid level AMOLED display.
What?

Here's the explanation. The word "retina" is made up, one of Apple's very clever ploys to lure in the unknowing. I'm suggesting that this word is a "WOW LOOK MA" it's a Retina display!

The truth is ...outside of the Kingdom Of Apple, this very same display is legally (yes it was patented) a type of LCD officially known as IPS. The best of all types of LCD displays.

Its being compared to a mid level, not top of the line AMOLED display. Officially known as Super AMOLED.

A proper comparison would be a top of the line example of each type. Therefore the comparison would be:

IPS vs. Super AMOLED Plus.

Now you have a fair comparison. You have a level playing field.

Between those two they are very beautiful, both of them.

There is no winner, but rather the perfect opportunity for people to choose the one THEY PREFER.

Nothing could be better :)
 
Maverick1337 said:
Ewww the Galaxy S looks disgusting next to the iPhone 4.

It was like looking at my 3G again...
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I dont think it looks awful. The only real difference is that my screen has a bit of a blu tint next to the iP4 but as far as it looking clear, ...being a 4" screen i like it better. It is clear and bright(though i keep my brightness at only 20%) and just bigger. Saying it was like looking at your 3G is just ridiculous.
Ill also say this, the screen on my Vibrant scrolls much smoother and freely than the iP4 does. Maybe the iP4 i was using wasnt very good for some reason but ive also done it at a Best Buy and the newest iPod and my Vibrant is much smoother.
 
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tehnoobzorz said:
+more efficient

some people have their head real far up apples ass :rolleyes:
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Thanks, I missed the more efficient point.

ap3604 said:
looks like some people have their head real far up samsungs ass as well :rolleyes:
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Please read the Engadget (normally a very Apple-biased site) review of the GSII from Vlad Savov (a rather Apple-biased person, if you read through his other posts).

Engadget said:
The Galaxy S II's screen is nothing short of spectacular. Blacks are impenetrable, colors pop out at you, and viewing angles are supreme. This would usually be the part where we'd point out that qHD (960 x 540) resolution is fast becoming the norm among top-tier smartphones and that the GSII's 800 x 480 is therefore a bit behind the curve, but frankly, we don't care. With a screen as beautiful as this, such things pale into insignificance. And we use that verb advisedly -- whereas the majority of LCDs quickly lose their luster when you tilt them away from center, color saturation and vibrancy on the Galaxy S II remain undiminished. It is only at extreme angles that you'll notice some discoloration, but that's only if you're looking for it and takes nothing away from the awe-inspiring experience of simply using this device.

Whether you're pushing it to its limits with movie watching or just tamely browsing the web, the Super AMOLED Plus panel inside the Galaxy S II never fails to remind you that it's simply better than almost everything else that's out there. For an instructive example of the contrast on offer here, take a look at our recent post regarding the LG Optimus Big's upcoming launch in Korea. The pattern on that handset's white back was so subtle on our desktop monitor that we completely missed it, whereas when we looked at the same image on the GSII, it looked clear as day. Maybe that doesn't speak too highly of the monitors we're working with, but it underlines the supremacy of the display Samsung has squeezed into the Galaxy S II.

We'd even go so far as to say it's better than the iPhone 4's screen, purely because, at 4.3 inches, it gives us so much more room to work with. It's almost impossible to split the two up in terms of quality of output, they're both top notch. Notably, however, that was also true of Samsung's original Super AMOLED display, the one that graced the 4-inch Galaxy S, and by now you must be wondering if there's actually anything significant enough in the new S-AMOLED technology to justify appending that "Plus" to its name. The short answer is yes, and it's all in the pixels.

The one major downside to the original Super AMOLED panel was to be found in its PenTile matrix subpixel arrangement. It employed an RGBG pattern, wherein you got two green subpixels for every pair of red and blue ones, but the overall resolution was counted on the basis of green subpixels. Ergo, a PenTile 800 x 480 resolution wasn't as rich at the subpixel level as your standard RGB screen (768,000 versus 1,152,000), which resulted in slightly grainier images than would otherwise have been the case. Well, that "otherwise" scenario is now with us, because Samsung has switched to a Real-Stripe RGB array in the 4.3-inch Galaxy S II, which means it packs the full 1.152 megasubpixel count and, as we've already noted, the display looks delectable for it. A lesser criticism of the original Galaxy S was that its colors were a little blown out and oversaturated, but that's once again rendered moot on the successor device -- a software setting called Background effect allows you to tweak saturation, so if you're feeling a little melancholy, you can tone down the intensity of your handset's colors to match your ennui. Basically, if we haven't made it clear already, this is everything that Super AMOLED was, minus the bad parts and plus an extra .3 inches in real estate. A triumph.
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I honestly fail to see how stating facts (SAMOLED + better efficiency + adjustable color saturation - PenTile layout) is 'having my head up Samsung's ass' :rolleyes:
 
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