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Supply Chain Expects New 16-Inch MacBook Pro, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air to Launch in October
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I'm fine with that. They seemed to be slacking on the Mac a bit for awhile the past few years, so why not give it a shine?
The iPhone XI (or whatever) looks to be b-o-r-i-n-g anyway.
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I used to agree with that, but go back and look at some of the old keynotes where they're introducing MacBook Pro's Powerbooks and, especially, monitors. The prices in '99-'05 were just obscene.
You can say the technology should get cheaper and that's fair; however, it's not like exorbitant prices are new for Apple.
Macbook 12 was nixed because Intel could not make new 5 W processor and MB 12 can't fit scissor keyboard, hence MB Air will get the upgraded keyboard. I really hope that Apple will bring it back though
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I cannot disagree with you there...but is it really any more optimistic than Intel actually shipping 10nm in any sort of actual volume this year? Personally, I don’t see this 16” MBP shipping this year since the biggest two features (new keyboard and new CPU) aren’t supposed to ship until next year, including any sort of mobile Navi GPUs, given how slow AMD’s rollout has been...we’re almost to August and only the 5700/XT has been officially released. I think the intel is wrong, forgive the pun.
If it's the old scissor key mechanism I might buy one. Who knows really. I recently got rid of my MBP without too much a value hit on it. Not keen on this T2 flaptrap.
This is one of my biggest annoyances with these rumors. 3072x1920 is 16:10, but running at a 200% scale rate, it's really only the space of 1536x960. Never mind 1920x1080 (or 1920x1200), it's not even 1680x1050.
Back in the day, the 17' was always 1920×1200, and the 15' was available as 1680×1050.
Of course you can turn down the scale rate for more space, but then you are quickly losing quality.
Don’t even about it. Just do it.
You’ll be in and out of the store in 5 minutes, and you won’t feel like a sucker for years to come...
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The minimum SSD being 128gb is still just so gobsmackingly idiotic, it’s just so insulting.
Minimum should be 512gb and for the price of the 128gb.
Apple are just SO unbelievably unfair about this.
"There will inevitably be problems remaining and problems will Be revealed at launch. I’ve seen this all before."
That tends to happen when there are a lot of under-the-hood architectural & API changes,
I suspect this is actually a lower tier "pro"...with the performance similar to a MBP, but cheaper screen tech and cheaper keyboard...a pro for people who complain apple products are too expensive.
I kinda think Apple will keep the 15" as the premium model, with the IPS display...and touch bar + butterfly keyboard.
But maybe the 16" will be scissor keys, no touch bar, and use a cheaper display technology....sort of a bare bones version.
Y'all will love it when you hear the butterfly is the "premium" keyboard...and Apple keeps it for the next 10 years.
(If given the option to buy a mbp with cheaper display, i dont know if i would buy it. The display is a defining feature, and i hate bad/cheap displays. I am price conscious, but still...it would take some of the shine off....)
Indeed. I do want to refresh my 2016 but except for the keyboard, it's working fine. I don't think I want to replace it with the same unreliable keyboard.
I love my 2016 15", but I don't love the fact that I always need to have canned air at home and in the office. That keyboard is so incredibly finnicky. I really think that on a fundamental level, the mechanism cannot cope with normal everyday dust and dirt.
There are 3rd party solutions for this. Have you tried them?
This frankly is my dream. How many days per week do you work? Do you still require this income, or is it more of a nice bonus? Did you luck out with one particular investment, or save hard? Please don't reply if these questions are rude/overly intrusive, I just love stories like this.
The 15" Pros are pretty powerful. There is a huge delta in performance compared to the Air. The MBPs are great for bursty workloads, but the CPU can also sustain reasonable clock levels indefinitely as long as you're not heavily using AVX instructions nor heavily taxing the GPU at the same time.
This is simply not true.
We uses to have the 17" MBP with 1920x1200 resolution...
The current 15" can scale this as a retina resolution albeit a non-linear one that degrades quality.
A resolution of 1920x1200 POINTS is perfectly usable at 15"+.
The problem is... non-linear scaling which degrades quality. Heck....when I need the workspace I run my MBP at native @1x scaling (altho I'd not recommend this as UI Elements are really small then).
So in order to have 1920x1200 Points and native @2x / 200% retina scaling... we simply NEED 4K.
Its essentially the exact opposite to a useless gimmick on a MBP. It borders a necessity.
I think that it’s likely that Apple will introduce a completely redesigned MacBook Pro line-up where the current 13” and 15” models are replaced by 14” and 16” models. A complete redesign could be required for e.g. a different keyboard-approach (and perhaps discrete graphic cards for all models), which could require the machines to be slightly thicker than their current counterparts.
Given the problems with the current butterfly-mechanism keyboards, I find it unlikely that Apple will introduce a new model which employs a new keyboard-technology and keep the current models as cheaper alternatives. Better to update the whole line-up, fixing the known problems while introducing (even) better and bigger displays and other features.
Given the problems with the current butterfly-mechanism keyboards, I find it unlikely that Apple will introduce a new model which employs a new keyboard-technology and keep the current models as cheaper alternatives. Better to update the whole line-up, fixing the known problems while introducing (even) better and bigger displays and other features.
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While I also object to the radiator design, I believe that Apple doesn't need to just build ultrabooks.
If they released updated versions on the 2011s I'd jump in in a heartbeat.
I always believed they could sell them ALONG their other offerings. Everyone wins.
So ultrabooks would be MB, MBA.
Regular would be the current or at least Retina MBPs.
And desktop replacements would be like the 15 and 17 inches like the 2011s. These wouldn't have to be so portable, just transportable. And these would be the ones with all the ports, MagSafe, upgradeable drives, batteries, and RAM, and the classic, excellent, and reliable keyboards.
Just fire up those old foundries and molds!!
The problem with that layout is that the keyboard is then offset against the display, which is probably why Apple doesn't go down that route. You can add a USB numeric pad if you really think you'll get the use out of it. I used to when I had to crunch spreadsheets for a living.
If they wanted to do that, they wouldn’t have just upgraded the screen on the Air.
I agree.
I do feel, that it will make its transition to the14 and 16 inch models next year. Since we just had a refresh on both the 13 and 15 this year already, I don't think apple is in a rush to get any new Macs out by the end of the year. the only one they will be releasing, is just the Mac Pro since they officinally announced it. Oh and the display. 2020 seems to be a reasonable release time for a new MacBook Pro with new design.
I also think that they are going with the 4 year long design for their laptops. 2008 introduced the unibody, 2012 they started the retina, and then 2016 they did the touch bar. So 2020 seems to fall in line with that idea.
I guess it doesn't matter what makes sense and what does not. There's too much information pointing at the release of several macbooks this year, the strongest evidence being the newly registered serial numbers. What these macbooks will effectively turn out to be will remain to be seen, a 16" seems very likely by now.
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