Supply Chain Expects New 16-Inch MacBook Pro, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air to Launch in October

[[AUT] Thomas]

That resolution is strange... Why not just go with 4K? Is that really asked too much in a Pro-Device?

NVM... seems like apple wants to stick with 220 pixels per inch...

 

[Darth Tulhu]

Man, I'd be happy if they looked like the renders.

Really happy.

I really wish Apple did three truly different categories of laptop again:

Ultrabook: MBA, MacBook
Laptop: Current MBP (add a Touch Bar-less option on both 13" and 15")
Desktop replacement: cMBP 15" + 17" (updated 2011 models, basically)

 

[0837990]

That resolution is strange... Why not just go with 4K? Is that really asked too much in a Pro-Device?

NVM... seems like apple wants to stick with 220 pixels per inch...

Because there is no point in having 4K on such a small display, with the working distance between your eyes and the display?

4K on a laptop is just extremely taxing on the GPU and battery. Apple has found a good middle ground to offer better performance (battery and GPU performance).

 

[Shadows_lord]

& 2nd & 3rd & 4th.

We are now on the 4th gen butterfly keyboard, still has the same issues.

Do you have a 2019 Macbook which has the same issues? Have you encountered a number of people who have it and they have faced keyboard issues? If the answer is no, pls STOP.

 

[ZeitGeist]

I don't understand why people want to know if the 15 inch is going to be refresh. The new 16'' will most likely be the same size as the 15'' but just with a stretched, bigger display, and a better design maybe.

THIS!!

EXACTLY - the 16” will have the same footprint as the 15”, and thus replace the aging 15” design.

It’s very obvious that Apple is rolling out a redesign of the Mac line in the wake of Jony Ive’s departure, building on the success of the new Mac Pro by the freshly minted Pro Workflow Group.

I have no doubt that the entire Mac line will see significant design refreshes — which especially the Mac mini can greatly benefit from.

I also hope to see a reverse from the disturbing trend of soldered-on SSDs.

 

[Peperino]

I can care less about an extra inch. If:

1- Have the same worse keyboard ever.
2- It ahs all soldered components.
3- It is non user upgradable (Ram and SSD)
4- Still has the useless touchbar.
5- They do not lower the price. (After they introduce the touchbar Apple raised prices by a ridiculous $400)

I actually would not care if they make the MacBook Pro thicker in order to bring back Mag-safe and have a proper ventilation and more battery life.

Please someone explain Tim Cook that technology goes down in prices with time, while exponentially increasing performance.

 

[mhd2100]

Gentle reminder to be wary of 1st-generation Apple products.

I've got a nearly maxed out 1st gen iMac 5k from 2014. Was an awesome machine back then and still is. It still can play triple A games in BootCamp at 1080p with vsync off. The SSD is still fast by typical PC standards too.

 

[ZeitGeist]

Every feature of the MacBook Pro that made it such a stand-out machine a decade ago has been removed or degraded. At this point Apple has a long way to go to restore the model to something deserving of premium pricing. A 16” display is a good start, but it’s just a start.

One word : MagSafe 3

Please.

 

[Kung gu]

Do you have a 2019 Macbook which has the same issues? Have you encountered a number of people who have it and they have faced keyboard issues? If the answer is no, pls STOP.

yeah 2019 HAD NO reports of failing keyboards.

 

[[AUT] Thomas]

Because there is no point in having 4K on such a small display, with the working distance between your eyes and the display?

4K on a laptop is just extremely taxing on the GPU and battery. Apple has found a good middle ground to offer better performance (battery and GPU performance).

Middle ground? Who says you can only offer a device with one resolution? Why can't I chose a 5K screen on the 16"MBP?! Make it 500€/$ more expensive and 2-3hrs less battery life. I don't care.
That's the same discussion with 4K vs 8K... 4K (in home entertainment) is very close to the "resolution" of the human eye at normal viewing distance (i.e. no oversized screens), yet it needs 8K for a "pixelless" impression.
On computers, especially when working with circles, round objects, lines at e.g. 89° or 91°... this becomes quite obvious. Just play a very old game without anti-aliasing on a very high resolution screen. That demonstrates very well what the eye is capable of recognizing...

For those who care: some sauce:
https://www.red.com/red-101/eyesight-4k-resolution-viewing
https://res18h39.netlify.com/calculator

 

[volcomvenom]

Normally I would presume the 16" would replace the 15", as a better large screen laptop. But the modern Applemart who doesn't mind having more skus than anyone can comprehend will surely charge $200-400 for this 16" model and keep the 15" unmodified right where it is for at least another year.

You’re probably 100% right

 

[Ghost31]

So this year, iphone was/will be the least important product
Mac pro, XDR display, now the new macbooks

I'm ok with Mac getting its time in the spotlight for a change

 

[4487549]

Why would they update the MBA and 13” MBP when they just refreshed them in July?

None of this conjecture makes sense. MacRumors is either living in a parallel universe or trolling everyone here. Why is there no mention of the 15" MBP? Because it was just updated 2 months ago. I'll believe this "rumor" when I see it (next year).

 

[toke lahti]

An extra inch can make a big difference.

Moneywise it can.
Bigger screen in macbook is extremely expensive: jump from entry level 13” to entry level 15” is +80% to the price!
How much more for 16”?
Damn expensive pixels over there!
[doublepost=1563918111][/doublepost]But can they fit numeric keyboard to 16” laptop?
Every other manufacturer in the world can, but Apple can’t fit it to even 17”.
Maybe if they’d charge extra $500 for the numeric keypad...?

 

[scoobydoo99]

Now, if only Apple would make these changes, we'd have a useful laptop!

NO butterfly keyboard
NO touchbar
+ MagSafe
+ HDMI
+ USB
+ SD Card slot

 

[Glockworkorange]

Indeed. Unfortunately for me, I only found out much later, when it was far too late to do anything about it. Of course it doesn’t mean for a moment that the same thing will happen here, but LG don’t exactly have an inscrutable reputation when it comes to small/medium LCD panels.

I happened to get lucky with my 2012 15 inch

 

[theorist9]

Seems like they'd be able to fit a 16" display just by reducing the bezels and keep the same footprint.

Close, but not quite. To get to 16.0", they'd need not merely to reduce the bezels, but eliminate them entirely (i.e., not as pictured in the first post); and even then they'd only get another 0.6":

The current 15" MBP's diagonal is actually (based on Apple's listed specs) 15.4". Going edge-to-edge (gasket-to-gasket, using up the bezels entirely--which may be hard to do), while maintaining the same 16:10 aspect ratio, would only get them to a 16.0" diagonal, a 0.6" increase. And if Apple wants to actually increase the diagonal by 1", to 16.4", they would need a slightly bigger footprint.

 

[ugru]

Disagree. I think the ideal Macbook lineup would be:

MBA - 13" / 15"
MBP - 14" / 16"

Disagree...

MBA = the current one - 1000$ tier price
MB = 13 and 15 - the current 13 MBP and 15 MBP low/middle offering. 1500$ /2000$ price tier
MBP = 16", thicker, new Keyboard, magsafe (150W), improved cooling, more diverse ports, i9 and Navi GPU, 3000$ price tier.

Instabuy for me...

 

[VictorTango777]

I know this is wishful thinking on my part, but it would be cool if Apple made its Macbooks modular again (i.e., add my own RAM, SSD, battery, etc...). To me, modularity was a very appealing quality of Macbooks from back in the day...

The power cord is removable, so it is modular

 

[Ener Ji]

IMO don't call it "Pro" if it can't continuously operate at full load under normal office conditions. Call it an "Air" or something if portability compromises productivity.

I see where you're coming from, but from my perspective there are MANY different kinds of "pros" out there, and many of them (probably even most of them) have no need to push the thermal limits of a device like the MacBook Pro for an extended period of time.

For people that do need to do this type of work, they have a lot of different options. They can do this in the cloud or remotely on a beefier device, they can use a desktop (Windows or Mac), or they can use a giant, heavy, workstation-class Windows notebook if they require some level of portability and little to no throttling.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

Gentle reminder to be wary of 1st-generation Apple products.

Great advice but I so desperately need to get rid of this ticking time bomb of a 2016 MBP the risk of being burnt by another 1st gen model is worth it.

 

[Khedron]

I see where you're coming from, but from my perspective there are MANY different kinds of "pros" out there, and many of them (probably even most of them) have no need to push the thermal limits of a device like the MacBook Pro for an extended period of time.

For people that do need to do this type of work, they have a lot of different options. They can do this in the cloud or remotely on a beefier device, they can use a desktop (Windows or Mac), or they can use a giant, heavy, workstation-class Windows notebook if they require some level of portability and little to no throttling.

A shame because MacBook Pros used to offer both portability and power. That was kind of the point of them. Now Tim just considers it a label to differentiate prices.

 

[kensic]

need that magsafe!!! the USB-C cant stand more then 5 times of some one tripping on the cord and throw the laptop across the table.

 

[Howard2k]

yeah 2019 HAD NO reports of failing keyboards.

You’re kidding right?

 

[Basic75]

They also need 90w-93w battery for the larger 10h usage

The pre-touch-bar generation had 95Wh and 99Wh in the 15" so they simply need to return to previous greatness.