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Why you hate catalina since its better than Mojave

It’s not hate, and “better” is subjective here. Have you tested the beta? It’s a mess. There will inevitably be problems remaining and problems will Be revealed at launch. I’ve seen this all before.

Plus, I rarely need, but occasionally do access and run a 32-bit applications, and Catalina can’t do that. I deploy and maintain devices as well as work as a project manager in a structural demolition and abatement company. Catalina offers us nothing as we need some legacy support for our customers. We don’t care about breaking up iTunes and Sidecar. Luna and Duet exceed what Sidecar does.
 
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That resolution is strange... Why not just go with 4K? Is that really asked too much in a Pro-Device?

NVM... seems like apple wants to stick with 220 pixels per inch...
It's a limitation of macOS, it can't do proper UI scaling so it's stuck at ~100ppi normal or ~200ppi retina.
 
If Apple does release a next-gen MacBook Pro in 16-inch format, it would be nice if they cleaned up the product offerings.

MacBook Air or change to MacBook: 11/12", 13/14", 15/16"

Pros: 13", 15/16"
 
Every feature of the MacBook Pro that made it such a stand-out machine a decade ago has been removed or degraded. At this point Apple has a long way to go to restore the model to something deserving of premium pricing. A 16” display is a good start, but it’s just a start.
Seems a bit excessive. There are certainly aspects of the new machine I don't like as much, but there's much Apple has significantly improved. For instance, for the past several years the MBP has been on the leading edge of storage access speeds among laptops, which makes a big difference in real-world responsiveness. That wasn't the case a decade ago, when it was merely middle-of-the road in this important category.
 
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Make them thicker, with a radiator along the entire back of the chassis.

No, Hell no and absolutely ****ing not...if I wanted to buy some fat-assed 2” thick ASUS ROG, MSI, Gigabyte janky-ass looking POS, I would have already done it.

The current chassis does just fine with the 8-core 9th Gen CPUs and anything thicker than the old 2012-2015 MacBook Pros is just too thick. Go lug around an old Late 2011 MacBook Pro all day long and tell me with a straight face you really want Apple to do that again.
 
Because macOS can't do proper UI scaling so it's stuck at ~100ppi normal or ~200ppi retina.
Why do you say that? I'm very sensitive to text clarity, and I've found this progressively increases as I go from a 94 ppi external monitor (1020 x 1080 Dell 2408 WFP 24" Ultrasharp), to a 163 ppi external monitor (Dell 27" P2715Q 4K), to my MBP's internal display (221 ppi). It seems that if your (thus far unsupported) assertion were true, MacOS would have particular trouble with my 4K display compared to the other two, but that's not the case.

I'm not happy with the removal of subpixel rendering from Mojave (so I've stuck with High Sierra), but that's a separate issue.
 
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Apple plans to release an all-new 16-inch MacBook Pro in October, according to supply chain sources cited by Taiwan's Economic Daily News.

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The report claims the 16-inch display will be a LCD with a 3,072×1,920 resolution, supplied by LG, matching information shared by IHS Markit analyst Jeff Lin last month. The notebook is expected to be mass produced by Foxconn and Quanta, two of Apple's largest manufacturing partners.

The supply chain sources cited also expect Apple to refresh the 13-inch MacBook Pro and MacBook Air in October, but no further details were provided about those models. This also mirrors the previous report from IHS Markit.

Absent from the report is any mention of a new 15-inch MacBook Pro. Since 2016, Apple has refreshed the 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pro simultaneously, so the big question is whether the 16-inch model will immediately replace the 15-inch model or start off as an additional top-of-the-line configuration.

Of course, the 15-inch model could come later. Apple's last staggered MacBook Pro release was in 2015, when 13-inch models launched in March and 15-inch models followed in May. The timing is typically dictated by Intel's processor roadmap, at least until Apple switches to ARM as rumored.

Apple just updated the higher-end 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pro in May, and it refreshed the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro earlier this month, so new models in the fall would certainly be soon. Apple has refreshed its entire MacBook Pro lineup twice in a year only once before in the Retina era, in 2013.

As for the MacBook Air, it was also refreshed earlier this month, but the only hardware changes were the addition of a True Tone display and an updated keyboard material for improved reliability, so a processor bump is certainly a possibility in October, one year after the notebook was significantly redesigned.

Early this month, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said a new MacBook Air with a scissor keyboard would launch in the second half of 2019, but it is unclear if it is still coming. He also called for a new MacBook Pro with a scissor keyboard in 2020, completing its transition away from its troubled butterfly keyboard.

Likewise, 16-inch MacBook Pro rumors began with Kuo. Back in February, he said the notebook would launch at some point in 2019 with an "all-new design." He has not shared any further details since, but a recent supply chain report said mass production would begin in the fourth quarter of this year.

When reading into supply chain rumors, it is often better to look at the "what" rather than the "when." While suppliers may know about new products based on components and schematics, timing is harder to predict. In this case, October is likely just a prediction given Apple often hosts a Mac event that month.

The key takeaway is that 16-inch MacBook Pro rumors are now surfacing frequently, so there is a good chance the notebook is real. Whether it launches in the fall, next year, or later remains to be seen.

Article Link: Supply Chain Expects New 16-Inch MacBook Pro, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air to Launch in October
 
Every feature of the MacBook Pro that made it such a stand-out machine a decade ago has been removed or degraded. At this point Apple has a long way to go to restore the model to something deserving of premium pricing. A 16” display is a good start, but it’s just a start.

I feel EXACTLY the same way. I am currently looking to move to a linux laptop solution for my next purchase. I'm not paying a premium price for a degraded product.
 
Now, if only Apple would make these changes, we'd have a useful laptop!

NO butterfly keyboard
NO touchbar
+ MagSafe
+ HDMI
+ USB
+ SD Card slot

Magic Keyboard 2 mechanism
TouchBar
+2 USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 ports (one on each side)
NO MagSafe (had its time, now it’s done)
NO HDMI (USB-C to HDMI)
NO USB-A (USB-A to USB-C adapter or buy a cable)
No SD-Card slot (USB-C versions are much faster and more compact, if you need one and supports more formats, Transcend RFD9 UHS-II Reader and a USB-C to USB 3 Micro-B cable)

There...that’s much better, and actually looks like the future, as opposed to 2015.
 
Now this will be what will happen, supply chain leaks are the best way to find things out I think. Will be interesting to see what the new base model 13” is like considering the great update it got this month.

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Gentle reminder to be wary of 1st-generation Apple products.

Apart from iPhones you mean, which are refreshed every year and sell in the millions.
 
With all that extra screen real estate to manage, will Apple include screen management software?

I use Magnet currently; it’s awesome.

I really really hope it will ship with WiFi 6 / 802.11ax
That and 16” will make me upgrade...
 
THIS!!

EXACTLY - the 16” will have the same footprint as the 15”, and thus replace the aging 15” design.

It’s very obvious that Apple is rolling out a redesign of the Mac line in the wake of Jony Ive’s departure, building on the success of the new Mac Pro by the freshly minted Pro Workflow Group.

I have no doubt that the entire Mac line will see significant design refreshes — which especially the Mac mini can greatly benefit from.

I also hope to see a reverse from the disturbing trend of soldered-on SSDs.

And the fact that both the new Mac Pro and iMac Pro have a variety of ports and non-soldered RAM and SSDs does give some hope that this Pro Workflow Group will give us a MacBook Pro with similar loveliness. And maybe, just maybe, this mentality will flow through to the non-pro lineup. Fingers crossed!
 
I don't think Intel will update their processors in October. So, the question is: Would this MacBook Pro get any internal improvements?
 
I know it'll never happen, but I so very much want the 16" model to have a numeric pad (instead of just a tiny keyboard with massive wasted space to the left and right).

Have you not noticed that every 15" laptop with numeric keypad has the centre of the keyboard skewed to the left? So unless you are using an external keyboard or screen, you're going to be using it with your body twisted to the left and/or your head twisted to the right. Horrible. And *that* is why Apple doesn't do it.
 
I don't think Intel will update their processors in October. So, the question is: Would this MacBook Pro get any internal improvements?

Comet Lake H-Series up to 10 cores/20 threads...though it’s supposed to ship in Q1 or Q2/2020, but since they aren’t going to be shipping 10nm anything this year, I’m sure Comet Lake’s timetable has been moved up.
 
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People always say this but for those of us who rely on our laptops for work every day, returning a much needed laptop or taking it in for service is a major inconvenience.
[doublepost=1563910956][/doublepost]Please, please, please don't let these new laptops come with a butterfly keyboard. :-(
Plus what good is it when the problem is a GPU that melts down after a year, or that melts down within a year only to be repaired by replacing it with an identical GPU that will meltdown within another year. Design flaws aren‘t usually “repairable.”
 
Comet Lake H-Series up to 10 cores/20 threads...though it’s supposed to ship in Q1 or Q2/2020, but since they aren’t going to be shipping 10nm anything this year, I’m sure Comet Lake’s timetable has been moved up.

Comet Lake in October would still be very optimistic.
 
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