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The iPhone X screen is also narrower so it is in fact smaller than the Plus.

This is one of the reasons that kept me away: the 5.8" iPhone X actual screen real state is in fact smaller than the old Plus 5.5" screen because it's narrower, and thus worse for online browsing.

If you hold both phones side by side, the difference in width (and content reading) is significant.
 
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I have a iPhone 6s +. Other than battery life, it's just as great as when I first got it. However, I've played a fair amount in store with an X. I like the slimmer bezels, and the hand feel way more. Will I upgrade to a new phone in the next year? Yes. I'll be picking up whatever the x 2 is, and upgrading the battery on my iPhone 6s + to be my new music only player. Do I think that I would need to upgrade, versus just replacing the battery and going another year with my three year old phone? No, I do not. If I was being super thrifty, I'd honestly either just get the next SE, or a smaller 7. Phones have truly matured, and I don't think having the latest and greatest is as "cool" as it was a couple of years ago. Honestly, if it wasn't for iMessage, I'd probably wait six months and just grab a Galaxy s9.
I always liked the message integration among Apple products, but with the availability of encrypted applications like Signal Private Messenger I can get pretty good integration between PCs, Android phones, and the Apple products I continue to buy (iMacs and iPads as of the last two years). The removal of the phone jack the last straw for my future purchasing of iPhones. My main objection - other than accompanying price - to infrared authentication is that I'm not totally convinced longtime use won't be damaging to the eyes. Only time will tell for that.
 
Then you shift over to a non-Apple phone with touch id; of course, a lot of folks did that with the loss of the phone jack. I'll run my 6S+ until it dies, and meanwhile invest in newer Android phones with the features I want. Apple has basically decided to shun folks who don't want wireless headphones or dongle adapters for wired, and are in the process of making all iThing users go to infrared authentication. I'm guessing that the iPad Pro I bought four months ago will be my last iPad, as the next generation is going infrared. You can dismiss me as an Apple hater, but that isn't exactly true. I just took delivery of a new iMac today, as it has the features I want, and though rather expensive, is still a durable worthwhile desktop with useful ports and a headphone jack. Can't say the same for the Apple laptops of the last few years, so I no longer buy MacBook whatevers. Apple apparently decided that diehard Apple enthusiasts will make up for the loss of customers like me. Perhaps they will. The company has mostly migrated from being a high end general computer company to a producer of high dollar, thin, non-upgradeable, rather portless mobile devices, and that's appealing to most their current customer base.

Just saw Vivo launched the Apex in China. (ARTICLE)
This would be a nice addition....
 
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That's because sales didn't meet expectations regardless of what Tim Cook says! He's said a lot of things that turned out to be totally untrue. He doesn't wow people like Steve Jobs. People find out much sooner!

Pretty much, just like with the Apple Watch, now it’s selling lots yes and is a fantastic little device, I have one, but the fact Apple buried any notion of its sales figures in with a load of other Apple devices speaks volumes I think and it has under performed for Apples sales figures. It can sell millions and millions and still fall far short of how many Apple proclaimed to the market it would sell, but you’ll never know..
 
"44 percent of respondents said they hadn't upgraded because their iPhone works fine, suggesting there were no standout features compelling them to purchase a new device"

Or suggesting just what they said "their iPhone works fine".

Even if there are "standout" features and the person might want those features, if their current phone is working just fine then they will wait. Some people are conservative with their money and not so impulsive.
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Pretty much, just like with the Apple Watch, now it’s selling lots yes and is a fantastic little device, I have one, but the fact Apple buried any notion of its sales figures in with a load of other Apple devices speaks volumes I think and it has under performed for Apples sales figures. It can sell millions and millions and still fall far short of how many Apple proclaimed to the market it would sell, but you’ll never know..

You have read the recent articles about how the Apple Watch has sold more than all other smart watches combined? Or the fact that Apple Watch is the top selling watch in the world?

Watches in general are not a huge market anymore. I look around and probably 80% or more of the people around me do not wear a watch at all. The common answer to why a person does not wear a watch..."because I have a smartphone".

The Apple Watch is a BILLION dollar or more a year business for Apple.
 
not really. for 50mil population with confidence level of 95% and confidence interval of 2.5 the sample size comes to be about 1500. This makes a decent survey i guess. I have used basic sample size calculator online.
The size of the population is not relevant. It's just the size of the sample, which appears to be fine - providing the sample was chosen appropriately with corrections for differences between the sample and overall population if necessary.
 
I feel like this isn't even an iPhone specific thing really. On both iPhone and Android, each new handset is less and less compelling to bother upgrading to. Sure, the iPhone X and Galaxy S9 are nice phones, but to someone on an iPhone 7 or a Galaxy S7, the new phones don't really offer much that the older phones can't already do just fine, especially for the cost.
 
Camera Bump, Slow Camera Lens, Small Camera Sensor, Poor Battery Life, Not Waterproof, Stale Form Factor, Finish Does Not Hold Up, Limited Colors, Over Emojied IOS, No Sapphire Front, Poor Cellular Antenna, Poor Cellular Modem. How's that for a complaint list. For a $1000+ dollar phone it should be warrantied for five years period.
 
Camera Bump, Slow Camera Lens, Small Camera Sensor, Poor Battery Life, Not Waterproof, Stale Form Factor, Finish Does Not Hold Up, Limited Colors, Over Emojied IOS, No Sapphire Front, Poor Cellular Antenna, Poor Cellular Modem. How's that for a complaint list. For a $1000+ dollar phone it should be warrantied for five years period.
I dont agree with your complaint list, but by using the price as an estimate for the length of a warranty an s-class amg should be bumper to bumper for 10 years.
 
I had been excited to upgrade to the X but frankly my iPhone 7 is still working just fine. I think that the 1000+ price point is what is deterring me the most from upgrading. It takes almost 2 years to pay the phone off if you do the payments and honestly no one wants to pay 1000 upfront. I think Apple needs to get creative with their price points. Remember that if you are on the apple platform you do a lot through the apple ecosystem so I think it would make sense for apple to give consumers more incentive to upgrade. They will still make money somewhere...
 
No problem, everyone
I dont agree with your complaint list, but by using the price as an estimate for the length of a warranty an s-class amg should be bumper to bumper for 10 years.
No Problem, The Warranty does need a serious upgrade considering the price for a new phone.
 
Then you shift over to a non-Apple phone with touch id; of course, a lot of folks did that with the loss of the phone jack. I'll run my 6S+ until it dies, and meanwhile invest in newer Android phones with the features I want. Apple has basically decided to shun folks who don't want wireless headphones or dongle adapters for wired, and are in the process of making all iThing users go to infrared authentication. I'm guessing that the iPad Pro I bought four months ago will be my last iPad, as the next generation is going infrared. You can dismiss me as an Apple hater, but that isn't exactly true. I just took delivery of a new iMac today, as it has the features I want, and though rather expensive, is still a durable worthwhile desktop with useful ports and a headphone jack. Can't say the same for the Apple laptops of the last few years, so I no longer buy MacBook whatevers. Apple apparently decided that diehard Apple enthusiasts will make up for the loss of customers like me. Perhaps they will. The company has mostly migrated from being a high end general computer company to a producer of high dollar, thin, non-upgradeable, rather portless mobile devices, and that's appealing to most their current customer base.

It's sad you let your aversion to moving forward with tech hold you back. Apparently, you don't need the perfect integration between devices that the Apple's ecosystem provides. But I would bet big money that most Android phones will adopt whatever direction Apple sets so you will soon be left with only Cricket phones and any other cheap phone that doesn't have the resources to keep up with technology.
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While true, it is also true that statistics are misused routinely in an effort to mislead the public. In order to know if this was enough you would need to know a lot more about how the survey was constructed than published in MR.

Repeating studies like this without checking their accuracy is exactly how bad statistics (not judging this article, because I have not researched it) make their round, nobody pays attention to the base study, they just mechanically reproduce what was in the press release.

Anyone interested, and everyone should be, should read the 142 page book, small format, titled, "How to Lie with Statistics", by Darrell Huff, published 1954. It is freely available on the web, and is also on Amazon.

Also check out the article "Trouble at the lab", published by The Economist.

Anyone that does a little research will find a number of professors at well respected universities that believe between 50 and 80% of medical studies conducted by Ph.D.'s utilize flawed statistics to prove what the study's financiers favored.

More than likely if you are taking a modern medical drugs its efficacy is based on flawed statistics. Now I am not saying medical drugs are bad, I'm just saying, and there is research out their that confirms, that we are, in a significant number of cases, being fed a bunch of lies about cause, effect, efficacy and side effects.

This day and age, it would not be unreasonable to ignore any statistics published by the general media.
Ok, that had absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand and whether the survey in question is accurate but I'm glad you got it out of your system.
 
This applies to all smartphones, not just the X. Smartphones are just not worth that much money. They're commodity items now. I don't really see a reason why we should be paying more than say $300 or $400 for a smartphone... doesn't matter if it's running iOS or Android, doesn't matter what fancy gimmicks they include, doesn't matter what the screen size is, etc.

Phones just aren't worth anywhere near $1,000 dollars. I even think the SE is overpriced. That thing should be maybe $200 max.
 
This is exactly what popped into my cynical mind. If Apple sees the reason for waning upgrades is "my current phone is fine" that puts a high incentive on making those devices "not fine"
Please. My car is a '99 Plymouth Neon. I still have it because it still works fine. People make purchases based on perceived need and financial resources. Many people like buying a new car every couple of years. I think that's silly and wasteful. But I basically do the same thing with phones, although I used to do every other model. There's no pain for me to get the latest phone because iPhones have such a great trade-in value and now that I'm on Apple's plan, I never actually pay full price so it is especially easy and actually the smart thing to do.
 
Funny how everyone who says that Face ID sucks or that it isn’t good enough yet are people who don’t even own a X and haven’t even tried it in regular, daily use. It’s all skeptics. I have a X and I think it’s great, and everyone else who actually owns a X likes it as well. Nobody who owns a X complains about the notch either. Just those who see a picture of it and decide that they don’t like it because of what they see. The only complaint I hear from people who actually own a X is from those who went from a Plus model complaining about less screen area. And whether you like it or not, I think Apple has made it pretty clear that they’re ditching Touch ID.
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I especially agree with the gesture controls being way quicker than a home button. Especially when it comes to switching apps. Just one flick of the finger and you’re in a different app. You can run circles around someone who’s using the home button trying to do all of that. Using a home button really does feel so much more slow and clunky after getting use to all the quick gestures on the X.
Agree with all of that. When I use Touch ID on my 6 is feels so archaic compared to FaceID. And I like that that mechanical piece vulnerable to liquids, finger goo and wear is GONE.
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It’s not the same damn thing. I don’t understand this argument at all. A notch is a part of the screen that cuts into content and is unevenely shaped. A bezel is just a bezel, isn’t a a part of the screen and does not cut into content. Why are you assuming that’s the same thing? How is it? It doesn’t make any sense at all.

The dreaded notch exposes MORE content than the bezel that would be necessary to house the camera and FaceID. It's probably there to maintain the aspect ratio of existing content without needing to adjust the width of the phone, too. Most non-media designers are clueless about aspect ratio. I think the iPhone is long enough without adding another 1/4" just to use a bezel instead for the few people who have an inexplicable issue with a "notch".
 
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How about I just want one that comfortably fits in the front pocket of my jeans and doesn't stab me in the groin when I bend over?
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This applies to all smartphones, not just the X. Smartphones are just not worth that much money. They're commodity items now. I don't really see a reason why we should be paying more than say $300 or $400 for a smartphone... doesn't matter if it's running iOS or Android, doesn't matter what fancy gimmicks they include, doesn't matter what the screen size is, etc.

Apple has decided that its market is primarily high-end, so they're going to see the time between purchases getting longer and longer, no matter if they EOL them or not. I don't use most of the features on my 5S now, why would I want everything that an X has if I'm not going to use those features either?

I will pay top dollar for state of the art, but then I'm going to hang on to it as long as possible until something else comes along that I decide meets my needs. I recently replaced my 10 year old plasma TV with a new LG OLED, but didn't buy the higher priced ones, because they're trying to do what my surround sound system does already, and they can't do it as well. Of course, I have to replace my AV receiver, which is also 10 years old, but I'll still save by not buying the higher end tv with features that I'll never use. But then simply because I buy Apple doesn't mean that I'm Apple's preferred customer, they'd prefer rich and stupid., Being neither, I just go with the flow.
 
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Hum, article reads “...edge-to-edge display with no bezels...”. Pray tell, what are “no bezels” that this iPhone comes with. Using the word, with, means it is included, again what are “no bezels”? Maybe you truly mean “without bezels”, wow that makes sense.

English is a strange language.
 
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