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You should be able to turn off CarPlay in the iPhone settings. The car should also have settings. And you should have a secondary charging only USB port that doesn’t integrate with CarPlay as well as a standard 12v charging receptacle.

yes, this. but also, charging via usb is so slow, unless you're utilizing your phone for media you should be charging on a 12v
 
I don't have Carplay and have never tried it. I've often thought the next time I get a car I MUST get one that has Carplay. However, all I ever hear is people complaining about it. The concept sounds great! But why are there so many problems and how do they manifest themselves?

I’ve only used CarPlay in two systems, so my “n of 2” is hardly indicative of the entire population of cars, but here I go:

1) I think how buggy it is, or not, is not apple’s fault 99% of the time. I had an aftermarket pioneer NEX7100 in my Prius and it crashed all the time. I got to the point where I didn’t know if I was going to be able to use my infotainment center each time I started my car. It was absolute trash. Enter new car: a Ford. Ford has really nailed CarPlay integration. Their Sync 3 is already good, but flawless CP/AA is their bread and butter, in my opinion.

2) People will complain about anything. Use this forum as proof. If you ever get the chance to try CarPlay, make your own decision about it. Personally, I like Ford Sync 3 better than CarPlay. But I have the option to use either, and I do.
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It'd be a lot better if there were two things that were improved. One, wireless CarPlay standard across all new cars. I can't control that and there must be some licensing fee for wireless or Apple wants a cut somehow and most of the OEMs are like yeah I don't think so. 2nd, when I do have it plugged in, I just want the map to follow me as I'm driving. It only follows me when I have an actual address plugged in. If I just have maps turned on, I have to manually adjust it to keep up.

This is odd. Apple maps follows me even without an address entered. I wonder if you have a location setting in your iPhone set to off?
 
When in Apple Music, it gives you pop up notifications to show your next turn if you’re simultaneously using Apple Maps. It would be much safer to allow Apple Maps to split screen so you could visually be prepared for your route.

Android Auto does this wonderfully, 100% disagree with you that it cannot be done safely.

I’m an old school car guy. I’m from the school of thought that nothing should be more important than the task at hand while operating a motor vehicle. Hell my all time favorite car to this day, wasn’t even designed with cup holders.

CarPlay (I believe Android Auto does the same?) lowers the music and tells you when to make the next turn or what lane to be in. There is absolutely no need for a visual pop-up that WILL take your eyes off the road. That in of itself is dangerous. Just because you have done it without serious consequences, doesn’t make it less so.
 
I’ve only used CarPlay in two systems, so my “n of 2” is hardly indicative of the entire population of cars, but here I go:

1) I think how buggy it is, or not, is not apple’s fault 99% of the time. I had an aftermarket pioneer NEX7100 in my Prius and it crashed all the time. I got to the point where I didn’t know if I was going to be able to use my infotainment center each time I started my car. It was absolute trash. Enter new car: a Ford. Ford has really nailed CarPlay integration. Their Sync 3 is already good, but flawless CP/AA is their bread and butter, in my opinion.

2) People will complain about anything. Use this forum as proof. If you ever get the chance to try CarPlay, make your own decision about it. Personally, I like Ford Sync 3 better than CarPlay. But I have the option to use either, and I do.
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This is odd. Apple maps follows me even without an address entered. I wonder if you have a location setting in your iPhone set to off?


No, I leave my location on. Maybe it's a Honda thing.
 
I preferred the VW Nav to CarPlay but then VW went to the newer bigger screen system that dropped most of the points of interest, doesn’t properly retrieve addresses from the address book, and no longer gives a free subscription to Sirius traffic beyond a very short period.

CarPlay suggests your next destination from your calendar, which is nice unless it’s just guessing, and Siri is pretty good at finding points of interest, so we end up using CarPlay rather than her nav.
 
I agree... they are nearly equal on the scale. And, the one detail they talked about is one that Android overwhelmingly was better than Apple - navigation. It would have made sense for them to also mention what the details were that users preferred on Apple since they headline is that they like Apple better.



My experience is quite different. I have used CarPlay and Android Auto each, for at least a year as my daily driver. So I believe I have a really good view of both. Also, my wife just got a new Honda CRV about 6 months ago and she uses Apple and me Android, so I see them both on a daily basis.

I prefer Android Auto for most things. For navigation, no comparison. Google Maps and Waze wipe the floor with Apple Maps. For music, I use Spotify, as do my other family members. I have not now, or never had, a Google Play subscription and I can play music just fine. I find the Google Assistant to work as well (if not better) in sending messages, picking navigation locations, and playing music on Spotify. The Apple interface could be described as more "polished", but in my mind I prefer the Android interface.

Bottom line is that the article headline is actually the problem. It should have been "Survey shows a slight satisfaction preference to CarPlay over Android Auto, but users overwhelmingly prefer Androids navigation options". Both systems, in my extensive of using them both, offer very similar abilities and work about the same. The differences, other than navigation, are minimal.

As for nails in coffins, lets wait and see how well Siri is integrated with Waze.

Totally fair, My brother uses spotify too so hes kinda in the same boat you are. In my case, I'm a bit old fashioned. I don't play anything aside from my own purchased music. I prefer to own my albums rather than pay a subscription. Plus I already have SiriusXM streaming that I primarily use for a specific talk comedy show and occasionally for hearing new music. So no need to double up on subscription services. So my use case was not exactly ideal for AA. I would HOPE Siri integrates just fine. Especially with them working on that app/thing that lets you perform app functions with Siri across apps. I forget the name they gave it. Even if not, I'll bet you google puts an Assistant/voice search button directly in the apps so just tapping that will give you your voice command needs for navigation apps.

Edit: Worth nothing my reason for switching was actually Siri's total failure to understand dictation and voice command in my car. To its credit, Assistant was far superior. Odd thing though is that when I went back to iPhone, out of nowhere Siri has been 99% correct in understanding everything I've asked it. NOTHING aside from the device itself has changed so I'm happy but baffled.
 
I love CarPlay with CarBridge. Allows any app to be used natively, and doesn’t require it to be showing on your phone. Very fast too. This is in a 17 Camaro with the 8” capacitive touchscreen.
 
until the new iOS comes out with the ability to use google maps and waze. Its useless to me. Come September Ill have it on all the time.
 
I'll say as a primarily Android phone user these days, Android Auto is terrible.

I was wondering someone’s thoughts on android auto, which I never have used myself before, but I really do see consumers venturing onto one CarPlay as a primary factor when purchasing a newer vehicle today. And after using CarPlay, you really do see the advantages of having the compatibility with your iPhone versus these third-party systems that auto manufacturers use that don’t nearly function as well compared to CarPlay integration.
 
Perhaps, just perhaps your car is to blame here ;) you have no CarPlay, and you have no blue tooth. I’m sorry but how are you expecting to have it work handfree with you vehicle? Sound like you need to get a better car.

On our Mercedes GLC43 I hold down the voice command button on the steeringwheel slightly longer than a single press and it bypasses Mercedes linguatronic ans instead activated Siri over the speakers. That is standard behaviour via the wireless protocols. And you can talk normally to her.

It's just an older car, like a pretty big percent of the population. Again, if hands-free is supposedly about safety, then wouldn't we want hands-free operation for what must be the majority of drivers, too (not just the CarPlay minority)?

I have the buttons, but they aren't connected to anything since I don't have those options on my particular model. But... as above, neither do a lot of drivers/cars.

I guess I expect it to work like common sense tells me it should. "Hey, Siri... who's calling?" "Hey Siri, send call to voicemail." "Hey Siri, answer call on speaker." Hey Siri, hang up."

I also don't get why it can't route audio properly, like playing a phone call audio over the car speakers, just like it does music, podcasts, and directions.

Mine works well in my Acura. I use the buttons on my steering wheel to invoke Siri, answer and hang up calls.

Yeah, as noted above, my buttons don't control it because I don't have those options on my model of car. What about people who don't have these buttons? They either have to pull over (or, more likely, many of them look at the phone and reach for it, which is dangerous with a modern smart phone... we used to be able to just flip open our dumb flip-phone years ago, which was relatively safe in comparison).

CarPlay is designed specifically for it not be distracting. The driver should never be distracted by things having nothing to do with the car’s performance and the traffic ahead.

Split screens and pop-up notifications are the biggest distractions and cause accidents.

Well, studies have shown just having a screen in a car is already a distraction... EVEN IF IT IS OFF! But, modern touch-screen cars are a big problem.

What I think people are complaining about, though, is that for example... if you're using Waze, etc. and invoke Siri, it shouldn't blank out the whole screen with a Siri screen or things like that. With a bit better thought and implementation, it would be smarter about how it displays things when in CarPlay mode (or some kind of driving mode). The OS can obviously multitask, it is the display logic that sucks.

But, I agree about split-screens and such. As I mentioned above, the screen in general is a problem when it comes to distraction and causing accidents. But, it's a bit better than fiddling with a phone sitting in the center console, I suppose.

My point, though, if designed correctly and Siri actually worked, there wouldn't be a big need for CarPlay in the first place. But, it would sure be nice if drivers had a few specks of common sense, which seem lost on most people these days.
 
I’m an old school car guy. I’m from the school of thought that nothing should be more important than the task at hand while operating a motor vehicle. Hell my all time favorite car to this day, wasn’t even designed with cup holders.

CarPlay (I believe Android Auto does the same?) lowers the music and tells you when to make the next turn or what lane to be in. There is absolutely no need for a visual pop-up that WILL take your eyes off the road. That in of itself is dangerous. Just because you have done it without serious consequences, doesn’t make it less so.
As someone that is newschool and uses GPS on a daily basis, it is more dangerous to get voice prompts than to have visual cues from a map. When I started using GPS I thought audio cues would be sufficient, but it wasn’t. Not really a debate from my usage.

My next car, a car with a digital odometer,will alleviate this issue by using the built-in navigation on the dash . Apple Music will get to takeover the entire display, while my navigation info is directly below my line of sight.

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As someone that is newschool and uses GPS on a daily basis, it is more dangerous to get voice prompts than to have visual cues from a map. When I started using GPS I thought audio cues would be sufficient, but it wasn’t. Not really a debate from my usage.

My next car, a car with a digital odometer,will alleviate this issue by using the built-in navigation on the dash . Apple Music will get to takeover the entire display, while my navigation info is directly below my line of sight.

Yeah, that makes some sense. If it is info in the instrument cluster (or I suppose a well-designed HUD) that can be useful with just a quick glance, that would be pretty good. However, if it is something like music track names or a text from someone, pretty bad, even then. A map is a pretty quick glance, and I agree, communicates a lot more to people who read maps than audio directions.

That said, if the audio directions were timed better or a bit more precise, that would help too. They sometimes don't give you the info you need when you need it, which might cause more issues than not having it (especially if people react quickly the last second when they realize they aren't in the right lane, or too close to an exit, etc.).
 
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That's cause they didn't survey me so I could tank the CarPlay score.
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When in Apple Music, it gives you pop up notifications to show your next turn if you’re simultaneously using Apple Maps. It would be much safer to allow Apple Maps to split screen so you could visually be prepared for your route.

Android Auto does this wonderfully, 100% disagree with you that it cannot be done safely.
The road demands full visual attention. Say someone randomly turns into your lane from the side without checking the blind spot. Happens all the time in Apple's home the Bay Area cause nobody can drive. Last time, I had to swerve out of my lane AND know from memory there wasn't a car to my right. Would've definitely crashed had I had visual nav on.
 
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That's cause they didn't survey me so I could tank the CarPlay score.
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The road demands full visual attention. Say someone randomly turns into your lane from the side without checking the blind spot. Happens all the time in Apple's home the Bay Area cause nobody can drive. Last time, I had to swerve out of my lane AND know from memory there wasn't a car to my right. Would've definitely crashed had I had visual nav on.
Accidents are also caused by people not knowing where they’re going. Your argument is countered by that fact.

I am a safer driver getting directions from a visual cue than a late, or delayed audio cue. I get tailgated, sped past, and cut off on a consistent basis. I have a good driver’s discount on my insurance.

Watch the movie Defending Your Life if you want to see what distracted drivers do.
 
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As someone that is newschool and uses GPS on a daily basis, it is more dangerous to get voice prompts than to have visual cues from a map. When I started using GPS I thought audio cues would be sufficient, but it wasn’t. Not really a debate from my usage.

My next car, a car with a digital odometer,will alleviate this issue by using the built-in navigation on the dash . Apple Music will get to takeover the entire display, while my navigation info is directly below my line of sight.

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For me, In the past, I used map books to plot my trip before I started driving. I do the same with GPS. So audio cues are sufficient for me as I already have an idea of where I am going. The reason I like CarPlay is its simplicity. It does not have distracting “pop-ups”.
 
The road demands full visual attention. Say someone randomly turns into your lane from the side without checking the blind spot. Happens all the time in Apple's home the Bay Area cause nobody can drive. Last time, I had to swerve out of my lane AND know from memory there wasn't a car to my right. Would've definitely crashed had I had visual nav on.

Accidents are also caused by people not knowing where they’re going. Your argument is countered by that fact.

I think it is a lesser-of-evils kind of thing. Any distraction can be a problem, but it's also true that when you don't know where you're going, that's a problem too. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure there have been studies done that show things like GPS are deadening some of our natural navigation abilities.

Pre-GPS, we used to look at maps and kind of mentally (or sometimes write out) our routes, as we didn't have that 'crutch' to fall back on.

It's just sad that we have to introduce some new forms of distraction and driver-stupidity into what has been an ever-increasing safety of the industry as a whole. That said, this is an interesting chart, especially the fatalities per billion miles driven line...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor..._VMT,_per_capita,_and_total_annual_deaths.png
 
Been using CarPlay the last few month without any issues, maybe its not the perfect system, but all the basic functions works smoothly as far as i can tell.
The only things im missing are - Waze and fully 3rd party message apps integration.. hopefully with iOS12 we can have it.
 
Accidents are also caused by people not knowing where they’re going. Your argument is countered by that fact.

I am a safer driver getting directions from a visual cue than a late, or delayed audio cue. I get tailgated, sped past, and cut off on a consistent basis. I have a good driver’s discount on my insurance.

Watch the movie Defending Your Life if you want to see what distracted drivers do.
Not knowing where you're going is only a problem if you panic. I know people do panic, but those people aren't good drivers and have plenty of other problems leading to their accidents.

Also, if you're being consistently tailgated and sped past, it's possible you're driving much slower than traffic, which is dangerous to others even if it doesn't get you into an accident.
 
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After all these years, Apple’s navigation is still absolute trash. I drive all over Southern California for my job, and even major highways that have been altered for 4 years are still missing from Apple maps. Additionally, Apple maps loves giving me the longest route to a destination first for some odd reason. I’ve also run into many prompts that says an accident or construction is ahead approx 2 miles and there is nothing there.

Apple maps will be turned off in favor of Google Maps as soon as possible!

And the Sirius XM app is trash on CarPlay as well. I blame Sirius XM for that though.
 
After all these years, Apple’s navigation is still absolute trash. I drive all over Southern California for my job, and even major highways that have been altered for 4 years are still missing from Apple maps. Additionally, Apple maps loves giving me the longest route to a destination first for some odd reason. I’ve also run into many prompts that says an accident or construction is ahead approx 2 miles and there is nothing there.

Apple maps will be turned off in favor of Google Maps as soon as possible!

And the Sirius XM app is trash on CarPlay as well. I blame Sirius XM for that though.
I've lived in SoCal most of my life and have depended on Apple Maps since it rolled out, driving mostly in West LA, Beverly Hills, and all over "The Valley." Never had any issues with directions, just the sucky points of interest support.

One unexpected incident, Google Maps severely lagged behind Apple Maps in remapping Santa Monica after many streets were removed or changed to one-way, so it was useless for about 2 weeks. But otherwise Google Maps seems to give the same directions, only I don't use it cause the app itself isn't as good unless I'm looking for restaurants and stuff.
 
I've lived in SoCal most of my life and have depended on Apple Maps since it rolled out, driving mostly in West LA, Beverly Hills, and all over "The Valley." Never had any issues with directions, just the sucky points of interest support.

One unexpected incident, Google Maps severely lagged behind Apple Maps in remapping Santa Monica after many streets were removed or changed to one-way, so it was useless for about 2 weeks. But otherwise Google Maps seems to give the same directions, only I don't use it cause the app itself isn't as good unless I'm looking for restaurants and stuff.
If you were to draw a square with the 4 points being Tehachapi, Ventura, Atascadero and Porterville, that’s my driving area. And there are a ton of issues with Apple Maps throughout that vast area.
I’m guessing major cities like LA and Hollywood are well covered by Apple Maps though, as it is a major population center.
 
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