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I have a 2018 Mercedes GLA-250. Apple Car Play is exceptionally difficult to use. It is time-consuming and almost impossible to get to each button on the Car Play screen. Navigation is all but unusable. After many tries, I have given up. I just use the Bluetooth connection for music and phone calls and rely on the internal Mercedes navigation system. If there are users who actually like Apple Car Play and choose to use it, then it must be that Mercedes somehow mangled the interface and is why Car Play is so absurdly difficult to use in the GLA-250.

When the screen is in CarPlay mode, it should look and function the same as any CarPlay system. CarPlay is delivered by the phone, not built into the car. The car's infotainment system is merely the host.

And there's usually multiple ways to navigate CarPlay... (1) touch screen, (2) voice commands, and (3) steering wheel buttons. You've got a brand new Mercedes, surely all three of these work great for you?

Maybe getting in and out of CarPlay mode has been made difficult by Mercedes? That would not be a surprise, as car manufacturers have always been clueless about simple user interfaces. They seem to be from another planet.

 
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Not knowing where you're going is only a problem if you panic. I know people do panic, but those people aren't good drivers and have plenty of other problems leading to their accidents.

Also, if you're being consistently tailgated and sped past, it's possible you're driving much slower than traffic, which is dangerous to others even if it doesn't get you into an accident.

Well, consider the typical driver anymore... of course they panic (if they are even paying enough attention for cause to panic in the first place).

What scares me more, though, are people who blindly turn left across traffic when they can't see. I had a few near misses like that where we used to live, and unfortunately after a couple of deaths (at said intersections) the city upgraded the lights with arrows, as apparently, people couldn't turn off stupid-mode.

I suppose we're in some sort of odd race to see if AI can improve enough to drive as good as a 1st day new driver wearing a blindfold, or if society degrades to the point where even that AI is better than the typical driver. :(

And, while I might have agreed with your second sentence in my younger days, I think common-sense has so left the building, that they might be driving plenty fast enough, but traffic is now thick with people lacking such common sense (to put it politely).

After all these years, Apple’s navigation is still absolute trash. I drive all over Southern California for my job, and even major highways that have been altered for 4 years are still missing from Apple maps. Additionally, Apple maps loves giving me the longest route to a destination first for some odd reason.

I was pretty familiar with driving the city where I started using Apple Maps, and the navigation always took me on some pretty weird routes, often with somewhat unsafe turns, or in ways that actually weren't the most efficient (possibly shorter, but inefficient).

Now that I'm living in a new city, I'm wondering how bad the directions would be to locals, now that I somewhat depend on it.

I’m guessing major cities like LA and Hollywood are well covered by Apple Maps though, as it is a major population center.

Yeah, I think with Apple Maps, it's far more location dependent than Google. Google has just done a ton more mapping. Notice that when Apple demos anything, they always use the Bay Area. I'm guessing the people who have really good luck with it, live in such places.
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That would not be a surprise, as car manufacturers have always been clueless about simple user interfaces. They seem to be from another planet.

Possibly, as in VCR menus? But, remember, a good UI in a car isn't the same as a good UI on a phone, tablet, etc. A good UI in a car is something you don't have to look at or only glance at super-briefly.

The whole idea of mounting a touch-screen display in the center of the dash to do anything while driving is the opposite of a good user interface!
 
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Test drove a car with CarPlay and was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't a complete sh*tsh0w as other peripheral Apple offerings. It will definitely be a part of my decision making when I'm shopping for a new car.
 
Not knowing where you're going is only a problem if you panic. I know people do panic, but those people aren't good drivers and have plenty of other problems leading to their accidents.

Also, if you're being consistently tailgated and sped past, it's possible you're driving much slower than traffic, which is dangerous to others even if it doesn't get you into an accident.
I remain extremely calm behind the wheel when in an emergency situation (deer bolting into the road etc). I was just having a conversation about this with someone, very odd you brought this up. Weird.

I always stay at the speed of the flow of traffic or slightly above. Tailgating happens constantly, in every state I live in. Human nature. It’s possible you’re dangerously speeding if you’re not getting tailed on a daily basis. I would check your odometer on occasion.
 
:apple: Maps or Google maps, never enter your home address. Use a nearby landmark. Also so in the car GPS.

Google maps (app or web) collects metadata no matter your OS.

In major USA metro areas, there seems to be no difference between :apple: Maps or Google maps in accuracy of mapping or traffic.

Anyone sees a different pattern?
 
I still prefer to use good old fashioned bluetooth or connecting my phone and using it in iPod mode in my Honda Accord.

I'm still there with my '13 Yaris.

I feel touch screen in a vehicle is only an extra distraction I don't need. Sometimes I think too much technology is taking away from people. They rely on it so much that they lose essential skills. That's just my own feelings on this.
 
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I'm still there with my '13 Yaris.

I feel touch screen in a vehicle is only an extra distraction I don't need. Sometimes I think too much technology is taking away from people. They rely on it so much that they lose essential skills. That's just my own feelings on this.
It's just so much easier then CarPlay and more reliable. I've also tried using Android Auto in my car with my S9+ and I still prefer bluetooth.
 
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I'm still there with my '13 Yaris.

I feel touch screen in a vehicle is only an extra distraction I don't need. Sometimes I think too much technology is taking away from people. They rely on it so much that they lose essential skills. That's just my own feelings on this.
There is no difference to tapping a touch screen or hitting a button on your stereo. Does it matter if you are tapping glass or tapping a plastic button on your Yaris?
I use CarPlay on my 16 Chevy Volt and while I can do almost anything I need to via my steering wheel controls, I don’t find the big CarPlay buttons distracting or difficult to hit. In fact, I would wager it’s safer and easier for me to tap on my 8” display, than it is for you to mess with your radio. Of course, since Toyota hasn’t allowed CarPlay into any of their vehicles until just now, it’s kind of a moot point for you.
 
In fact, I would wager it’s safer and easier for me to tap on my 8” display, than it is for you to mess with your radio.

But a physical button/knob, etc. has a tactile feel, is always in the same place, etc. so that once you get used to it, you don't necessarily even need to look at it.

There are levels to this (in terms of distraction). For example, even looking at an older radio display to see what station it is on, is less a distraction than some text somewhere on a screen.
 
I remain extremely calm behind the wheel when in an emergency situation (deer bolting into the road etc). I was just having a conversation about this with someone, very odd you brought this up. Weird.

I always stay at the speed of the flow of traffic or slightly above. Tailgating happens constantly, in every state I live in. Human nature. It’s possible you’re dangerously speeding if you’re not getting tailed on a daily basis. I would check your odometer on occasion.
On a multi-lane road that isn't jammed, drivers are supposed to leave the left lane(s) for passing and stay to the right otherwise. Doing that, they have no reason to tailgate because they can just pass on the left instead, though it'll happen occasionally if they're pulling something risky. Drivers who drive in the passing lane without passing will be tailgated. If it's a single-lane road or multi-lane in a jam, it's only a few bad drivers who tailgate for no reason.

This is what I see in CA, NY, a few neighboring states, France, and even Armenia where the drivers are awful. I don't speed and do notice the few times I get tailgated because it bothers me a lot.
 
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Sorry, Apple CarPlay is awful (and that said from a real Apple fan). Apple Maps in conjunction with Siri is useless at finding anything (other than the nearest McDonalds), for some reason it has a love for Australia when the place I'm looking for is 10 miles down the road and even when you do get it to recognise a place it rarely gets you exactly there, I'm UK-based but had the same problem in Chicago recently when trying to find a cinema near the airport, I had to switch to Google maps direct on my phone.

It is impossible to navigate apps like Spotify or Audible using voice which is exactly what you need to be safe when driving. In contrast Android Auto is fully navigable via voice down to specific playlists or audio books and as everyone know Google Maps is just spot on, I'm not sure I've ever had an issue with it finding somewhere I'm looking for. Finally CarPlay has no "central screen" like Android Auto which shows audio and navigation on one screen. It is one (admittedly rare) product where Google has a big lead on Apple.
 
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But a physical button/knob, etc. has a tactile feel, is always in the same place, etc. so that once you get used to it, you don't necessarily even need to look at it.

There are levels to this (in terms of distraction). For example, even looking at an older radio display to see what station it is on, is less a distraction than some text somewhere on a screen.
You may be right in some cases, but in my case, with a large display, it very easy to touch the icons. They are quite big. Compared to a radio, even with tactile feel, I would argue this is less distracting. Additionally, my steering wheel has a lot of functionality from making calls with Siri, to changing stations, to adjusting the volume. This is my entire display below with Carplay.

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There is no difference to tapping a touch screen or hitting a button on your stereo. Does it matter if you are tapping glass or tapping a plastic button on your Yaris?
I use CarPlay on my 16 Chevy Volt and while I can do almost anything I need to via my steering wheel controls, I don’t find the big CarPlay buttons distracting or difficult to hit. In fact, I would wager it’s safer and easier for me to tap on my 8” display, than it is for you to mess with your radio. Of course, since Toyota hasn’t allowed CarPlay into any of their vehicles until just now, it’s kind of a moot point for you.
Thing is once I connect the phone, I'm using the buttons on my steering wheel which I know by heart and do not require me removing my hand from the wheel, to change songs and volume. For me, that's simplicity.

I do not talk, text, etc as my daily driver is the android. If I need directions, I'll stop and load my GPS. Let it talk to me while not looking at it. I've seen enough bad drivers that I realize I'm driving more for them than for myself on the road. Minimal distractions are best.

Edit: Had a rental with Carplay. It was a nightmare for me. I grew up driving an old stick shift. I can still drive one. When does technology become more intelligent than the people using it? I'm sorry but driving is to get me from point A to point Z if needed. Not to be a play room of gadgets. My opinion.
 
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On a multi-lane road that isn't jammed, drivers are supposed to leave the left lane(s) for passing and stay to the right otherwise. Doing that, they have no reason to tailgate because they can just pass on the left instead, though it'll happen occasionally if they're pulling something risky. Drivers who drive in the passing lane without passing will be tailgated. If it's a single-lane road or multi-lane in a jam, it's only a few bad drivers who tailgate for no reason.

This is what I see in CA, NY, a few neighboring states, France, and even Armenia where the drivers are awful. I don't speed and do notice the few times I get tailgated because it bothers me a lot.
From NYC suburb, grew up in the city and have lived in SoCal for over 10 years. We must not be sharing the same roads! This couldn’t be further from my experience.
 
I've seen enough bad drivers that I realize I'm driving more for them than for myself on the road. Minimal distractions are best.

Exactly. I'm finding I have to pay more close attention than I used to years ago, because of the increasing amount of poor driving around me. I'm pretty sure a good portion of it is due to distracted driving... as I've seen the people doing it at times.

When does technology become more intelligent than the people using it? I'm sorry but driving is to get me from point A to point Z if needed. Not to be a play room of gadgets. My opinion.

Well, I'd say that it doesn't... but with the nosedive in the general intelligence and common sense of others around me that I seem to be witnessing, I'm not so sure anymore.

But, yeah, we'd all be better off if people focused on the driving. I remember when people used to joke about German cars not having cup holders.... and now we've gone 180 and filled many cars with everything but focus on driving.
 
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I have a 2018 Mercedes GLA-250. Apple Car Play is exceptionally difficult to use. It is time-consuming and almost impossible to get to each button on the Car Play screen. Navigation is all but unusable. After many tries, I have given up. I just use the Bluetooth connection for music and phone calls and rely on the internal Mercedes navigation system. If there are users who actually like Apple Car Play and choose to use it, then it must be that Mercedes somehow mangled the interface and is why Car Play is so absurdly difficult to use in the GLA-250.

My girlfriend bought a $400 head unit with carplay for her 9 year old suzuki swift and it's fine.

Sounds like mercedes screwed the pooch on this one?
 
My girlfriend bought a $400 head unit with carplay for her 9 year old suzuki swift and it's fine.

Sounds like mercedes screwed the pooch on this one?

A lot of newer cars are really ruined by aftermarket units. If I tried to put one in mine, the screen would cover the vents and/or other controls, etc. I used to love aftermarket audio, but they mostly don't design cars with that in mind any longer (and fortunately, have started putting reasonable systems in from the factory, at least in some lines).
 
A lot of newer cars are really ruined by aftermarket units. If I tried to put one in mine, the screen would cover the vents and/or other controls, etc. I used to love aftermarket audio, but they mostly don't design cars with that in mind any longer (and fortunately, have started putting reasonable systems in from the factory, at least in some lines).

Don't disagree and wasn't specifically suggesting to go aftermarket.

Merely making the point that if it works well in a cheap aftermarket unit (such as the one my girlfriend bought for her runabout), surely Mercedes with their massively larger budget could and should have done better. But sounds like they didn't.
 
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I remain extremely calm behind the wheel when in an emergency situation (deer bolting into the road etc). I was just having a conversation about this with someone, very odd you brought this up. Weird.

I always stay at the speed of the flow of traffic or slightly above. Tailgating happens constantly, in every state I live in. Human nature. It’s possible you’re dangerously speeding if you’re not getting tailed on a daily basis. I would check your odometer on occasion.
If you get constantly tailgated then you can’t possibly go with the flow of the traffic. Unless you are always the person at the end ;) so something really doesn’t make sense in that response.
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On a multi-lane road that isn't jammed, drivers are supposed to leave the left lane(s) for passing and stay to the right otherwise. Doing that, they have no reason to tailgate because they can just pass on the left instead, though it'll happen occasionally if they're pulling something risky. Drivers who drive in the passing lane without passing will be tailgated. If it's a single-lane road or multi-lane in a jam, it's only a few bad drivers who tailgate for no reason.

This is what I see in CA, NY, a few neighboring states, France, and even Armenia where the drivers are awful. I don't speed and do notice the few times I get tailgated because it bothers me a lot.
LOL Armenia is rather special :) We hired an Uber for the day, so cheap :), but it was hilarious how none of them seem to be mentally able to wait and not start overtaking just before a blind bend. Then again I’m still here, so it wasn’t all bad and the speed most cars are able to do is less then what I do on my bicycle :)
 
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LOL Armenia is rather special :) We hired an Uber for the day, so cheap :), but it was hilarious how none of them seem to be mentally able to wait and not start overtaking just before a blind bend. Then again I’m still here, so it wasn’t all bad and the speed most cars are able to do is less then what I do on my bicycle :)
Yeah, they even do things that seem like incompetence, like drifting out of lanes randomly. Some countries have driving that looks crazy but is actually safe, but there it's just bad. Luckily it's low-speed in the capital, but there were lots of minor accidents, and in the countryside they drive fast and pull just as ridiculous maneuvers like passing a car while it's passing.

Also half the cars are those Russian ones you always see in dashcam videos, which adds more nervousness, haha
 
Yeah, they even do things that seem like incompetence, like drifting out of lanes randomly. Some countries have driving that looks crazy but is actually safe, but there it's just bad. Luckily it's low-speed in the capital, but there were lots of minor accidents, and in the countryside they drive fast and pull just as ridiculous maneuvers like passing a car while it's passing.

Also half the cars are those Russian ones you always see in dashcam videos, which adds more nervousness, haha
It is indeed a weird mix of old Russian cars that not even the Russians would drive, and the latest Mercedes AMG vehicles. Other than Moscow and London, never seen so many Mercedes GLS AMG 63's on the road.

I had an Uber from Yerevan to Gyumri to Vanadzor to Sevan and back to Yerevan. Definitely an experience, but met many wonderful and highly skilled people in the technology parks.
 
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It is indeed a weird mix of old Russian cars that not even the Russians would drive, and the latest Mercedes AMG vehicles. Other than Moscow and London, never seen so many Mercedes GLS AMG 63's on the road.

I had an Uber from Yerevan to Gyumri to Vanadzor to Sevan and back to Yerevan. Definitely an experience, but met many wonderful and highly skilled people in the technology parks.
Yep, supposedly there's a mafia-like economy left over from the Soviet era that they're trying to fix now with the new PM, so people are either very wealthy or very poor. The country has serious problems but also a lot of promise, so it made me glad when I visited.
 
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If you get constantly tailgated then you can’t possibly go with the flow of the traffic. Unless you are always the person at the end ;) so something really doesn’t make sense in that response.
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LOL Armenia is rather special :) We hired an Uber for the day, so cheap :), but it was hilarious how none of them seem to be mentally able to wait and not start overtaking just before a blind bend. Then again I’m still here, so it wasn’t all bad and the speed most cars are able to do is less then what I do on my bicycle :)
People tailgate, whether or not you’re going with the flow of traffic. Somethings not adding up with your statement if you don’t notice this happening around you. Maybe you speed past everyone and accept this as a safe way to drive. Plenty of people on this forum are speeders, tailgaters, and wreckless drivers. I see this every day, of every week, of every year. It’s an epidemic. Not debatable in any way.
 
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People tailgate, whether or not you’re going with the flow of traffic. Somethings not adding up with your statement if you don’t notice this happening around you. Maybe you speed past everyone and accept this as a safe way to drive. Plenty of people on this forum are speeders, tailgaters, and wreckless drivers. I see this every day, of every week, of every year. It’s an epidemic. Not debatable in any way.
Ok, sorry of course you are right and it is not debatable. That is the end of it naturally.
 
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