Question: T-Mobile announces a new plan and its on the front page. On the same day, Sprint announces a new plan and it shows up in "Other MacRumors Topics". Why is that?
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T-Mobile Introduces $70 Unlimited Data Plan, But HD Video is $25 Extra
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I could never understand Binge On completely. Can someone help out please? I have unlimited data with 7GB for tethering, so I never turn on Binge On. There are times when we go on long trips, my kids want to watch Youtube pr my Dish Sling on their iPad. Will turning on Binge On and letting them tether with their iPad limit them to 480p? I understand the data will still come out of tethering bucket, but I'd like to know if the data will be limited to 480p.
Not sure why everyone is complaining
My buddy has the $95 unlimited plan.
I was going to get that plan when the iPhone 7 comes out.
Now I can get it for $25 cheaper if I don't care about HD video (I don't watch videos on my phone anyways) and if I wanted HD I could spend $25 more and be exactly where I would have from the get go.
This sounds good to me. Can anyone point out a flaw in my logic?
My buddy has the $95 unlimited plan.
I was going to get that plan when the iPhone 7 comes out.
Now I can get it for $25 cheaper if I don't care about HD video (I don't watch videos on my phone anyways) and if I wanted HD I could spend $25 more and be exactly where I would have from the get go.
This sounds good to me. Can anyone point out a flaw in my logic?
Yeah, but here's the kicker. I'm not saying the AT&T deal is a killer deal. I'm saying it sucks less than this T-Mobile deal sucks. Because this T-Mobile deal is the absolute worst.
I'm a T-Mobile customer right now, but these plans are awful. They're a shot across the bow at Net Neutrality.
Isn't that what T-Mobile just did? Unlimited tethering on the 2G spectrum (speed tier).
Most home Internet providers are limited by the capacity of the lines they've run, and they have the ability to change that (by running more lines, as well as control pretty much every aspect of those lines).
Wireless carriers are limited by the capacity of the airwaves that they licensed from the FCC. They don't have the ability to change this on their own. They can do optimizations with their stations and antenna arrays, but at the end, only so many bits of data can be crammed into a single hertz of spectrum, and carriers cannot simply create "more spectrum", like your home Internet provider essentially can.
Yes... I'm quite aware of how spectrum works. Which is precisely why they should sell speed tiers instead of data buckets.
My point was that Legere calls Verizon and AT&T out for giving customers too many confusing options in the video while failing to note that there are several add-on options available for T-Mobile's new plan. If Legere gives customers options, he thinks it's great. If AT&T and Verizon give customers options, he says it's confusing bul****t. It's very hypocritical.
Presumably it's primarily family plan members. T-Mobile frequently has huge discounts on them. 2 unlimited lines for $100 was pretty common, and there were some great deals on 4 lines as well.
Additionally, if the subscriber cares about tethering, even in your best-case comparison, the subscriber is still behind under the new plans because the smallest tethering add-on for the new plans is $15.
So if you want HD and Tethering, particularly if you have multiple lines, the new plans are marginally or substantially more expensive than the old plans.
As far as comparisons go, how many families are going to need tethering for all four family members? And really, all families are going to need HD for both kids too? Seems pretty obvious these plans are intended for people who probably won't need to add all the options.
And sprint also announced new unlimited plans, which also limit video to 480 but don't offer any option for unlimited including HD video.
Unless I'm missing something, nobody else even offers the option of unlimited data with HD video streaming. Is there another option out there so it can be compared?
And I'm saying it's not even available for many people. IF someone has ATT television already and needs HD streaming for all phone lines then it's a better deal.
If you need the option of tethering, TM is better.
If you are fine with SDTV for even two of the lines, TM is cheaper.
ATT is only available if you have TV from them. I don't see unlimited from Verizon. Sprint just announced new unlimited and they are limiting to 480, no option for HD. So this "absolute worst" plan looks like it may be the only plan available where someone can get unlimited wireless service and even have the option of HD.
And sprint also announced new unlimited plans, which also limit video to 480 but don't offer any option for unlimited including HD video.
Unless I'm missing something, nobody else even offers the option of unlimited data with HD video streaming. Is there another option out there so it can be compared?
And I'm saying it's not even available for many people. IF someone has ATT television already and needs HD streaming for all phone lines then it's a better deal.
If you need the option of tethering, TM is better.
If you are fine with SDTV for even two of the lines, TM is cheaper.
ATT is only available if you have TV from them. I don't see unlimited from Verizon. Sprint just announced new unlimited and they are limiting to 480, no option for HD. So this "absolute worst" plan looks like it may be the only plan available where someone can get unlimited wireless service and even have the option of HD.
Only makes a difference if you need hotspot. With the current $95 unlimited plan, it comes with 14GB of hotspot data. With the new plan it'd be a $15 add-on for 5GB. $85 if you want unlimited, non-HD and 5GB hotspot, or $110 if you want HD and 5GB hotspot.
So mobile internet started out unlimited, then set limits, and now is heading back to unlimited. Progress!
This is crap marketing. WTF is unlimited with limitations? The limitations make no sense., restricted to 480p? How are they going to do that? Are they going to analyze traffic and perform on the fly transcoding for all video, oh please, get real!
Watching higher quality video is just streaming larger files and will just consume your allotted data sooner.
2G tethering? Are you kidding me? T-Mobile the 90's called and wants their cell plan back. Have you ever tried to do anything data related that one time you are **** out of luck in BFE and you see the 2G signal across the top of your cell phone? You are lucky if a geocities.com web page loads by the time you are out of that godforsaken cellular blackhole part of the world you happened to have wandered.
Watching higher quality video is just streaming larger files and will just consume your allotted data sooner.
2G tethering? Are you kidding me? T-Mobile the 90's called and wants their cell plan back. Have you ever tried to do anything data related that one time you are **** out of luck in BFE and you see the 2G signal across the top of your cell phone? You are lucky if a geocities.com web page loads by the time you are out of that godforsaken cellular blackhole part of the world you happened to have wandered.
Yea I feel like at some point it may be a regular thing again but with a much higher cost than in the past of course. Everything is very cyclical.
T-Mobile has introduced a new plan called T-Mobile ONE [PDF] that offers unlimited talk, text, and 4G LTE data for $70 per month. A second line can be added for $50 per month, while up to six more lines can be added for an additional $20 per month each. The total cost for a family of four, for example, would be $160 per month.
T-Mobile ONE has some caveats to consider. First, unlimited video is limited to 480p standard definition for all services, with unlimited HD video available for $25 per month extra per line. Additionally, tethering is limited to 2G speeds, with 5GB of high-speed tethering available as a $15 add-on.
T-Mobile's existing Simple Choice plan with unlimited talk, text, and 4G LTE data costs $95 per month and includes unlimited HD video and 14GB of LTE tethering. The carrier also offers 2GB, 6GB, and 10GB of 4G LTE for $50, $65, and $80 respectively. It is unclear if these plans will be retired September 6 for new customers.
T-Mobile also clarified that, as with its Simple Choice plans, customers using the most data -- specifically the highest 3 percent -- may see their data traffic prioritized behind other users once they cross a threshold of around 26GB of data during their billing month. The carrier noted that throttling will only occur at specific times and places where there is network congestion.
The new plan includes usual T-Mobile perks such as Simple Global, Mobile Without Borders, Wi-Fi Unleashed, Stock Up, and T-Mobile Tuesdays. T-Mobile will also pay up to $650 in early termination fees to customers who switch over from AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint through its Carrier Freedom program.
T-Mobile ONE will be available for new postpaid customers on September 6, while new prepaid customers will be able to get the plan "in the future." Existing customers have the option to keep the Simple Choice plans they have or switch to T-Mobile ONE. The plan costs $5/month extra per line without AutoPay enabled.
T-Mobile follows in the footsteps of new data plans from AT&T and Verizon.
Article Link: T-Mobile Introduces $70 Unlimited Data Plan, But HD Video is $25 Extra
Looks like he has on PINK lipstick to match!
How does the AT&T Unlimited plan even compare? Their "unlimited" plan with being a DirecTV or UVerse customer peters out at 22GB ("After 22GB of usage, AT&T may slow data speeds."). TMobile doesn't.
Typical American ignorance (and I'm American). The UK has a population of over 60 million, so it's not a "tiny" nation by any measure.
Also, I'll never understand why Americans are so quick to say, "We could never do {x} here." First of all, why so quick to give up on the hope of something better? Second of all, have you never heard of a concept called "scale"?
I'm with Republic Wireless, and pay $25 a month for unlimited talk and text with "unlimited" data (throttled after 5GB). There are a couple of downsides (e.g. 3G data, no tethering), but it's well worth the compromise to have such an affordable bill. I wish the rest of my country would do less complaining about high prices on internet forums and start voting with their wallets. The latter is your only hope of actually changing the status quo.
Maybe because Sprint's by far the worst carrier in speed and coverage, and is only a better price in a handful of instances?
I honestly don't know how sprint rolls out those commercials with comparisons to Verizon in coverage. It's insulting to the people watching.
You do not need to switch! This is T-Mobile's program to attract new customers.
Do any of the other 3 major carriers offer such a plan, especially at 4-lines and above, without the binge and HD options?
You must fall for their commercials like they hope the public will...if you listen to them, they say they're within 1% as RELIABLE as Verizon. Not that they have the same coverage or even performance/speed as Verizon. Just that they are reliable (ie, when you are in an area they cover, you will be able to make a call). They're tricking the consumer into thinking Sprint is 99% as good as Verzion. What a joke.