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How does the AT&T Unlimited plan even compare? Their "unlimited" plan with being a DirecTV or UVerse customer peters out at 22GB ("After 22GB of usage, AT&T may slow data speeds."). TMobile doesn't.

T-Mobile doesn't throttle at 22, you're right. They do it at 21.
 
They will change this within a couple of months, for a lot of people who don't use much this is going to be a big increase. If they keep this, this plan will be the end of t-mobile as we know it.
 
I don't see how a jailbreak can get around this. It's all done on T-Mobile's end.



It's about giving users more options. If you don't want those things, then don't add / pay.
Here are my numbers. I've never removed binge on.

As far as jailbreak, I was thinking in terms of routing your data through a vpn or something. Essentially make t so the data can't be desiphered.

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I am on a family plan which each line gets 10GB which I can't finish most of the time, and there is always 20GB data stashed. So it's like I get to use 10GB a month and for the special occasions, I can use 30GB. I could also tether at LTE speed. Now that t-mobile one seemed to be taking away tethering at LTE speed from me. Am I allowed to keep my old plan?
 
Question: T-Mobile announces a new plan and its on the front page. On the same day, Sprint announces a new plan and it shows up in "Other MacRumors Topics". Why is that?
I imagine because T-Mobile has done more to shake up the US carriers than anyone else, for better or for worse.

Sprint can do awesome things. Maybe even better than T-Mobile. Nobody is really talking about them though.
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T mobile isn't great in my area.....unfortunately ATT is the go to.
The great thing about T-Mobile making big moves is that ATT is often soon to follow. Didn't ATT just roll out their no overages plans? :)
 
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You must fall for their commercials like they hope the public will...if you listen to them, they say they're within 1% as RELIABLE as Verizon. Not that they have the same coverage or even performance/speed as Verizon. Just that they are reliable (ie, when you are in an area they cover, you will be able to make a call). They're tricking the consumer into thinking Sprint is 99% as good as Verzion. What a joke.
Than I guess Verizon fell for it too since their response ad with Jamie foxx were coverage maps about coverage o_O Coverage and reliability are the same thing if it isn't an area covered than its obviously not reliable in that area. Whereas Verizon pretty much covers every part of the United States
 
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Typical American ignorance (and I'm American). The UK has a population of over 60 million, so it's not a "tiny" nation by any measure.

60 million is about the population of California, and we have 49 more states to go. Anyway, "tiny" refers to land area, which is a major factor in cellular coverage. It is farther from one end of Texas to the other than it is from Land's End to John O'Groats.
 
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How does the AT&T Unlimited plan even compare? Their "unlimited" plan with being a DirecTV or UVerse customer peters out at 22GB ("After 22GB of usage, AT&T may slow data speeds."). TMobile doesn't.

T-Mobile's deprioritization amount is 26GB. Unless you're in an area that's already congested, chance are that speeds will remain the same.
 
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This is the part that I have never understood... Is it merely greed on the part of the US Carriers, or is there some rationale that is even marginally reasonable that would justify the massive price differences?
I'm a Brit who has lived in the US for the last 7.5 years. I can tell you that it's 'swings and roundabouts'. I was back in the UK a couple of months ago and I picked up a PAYG SIM for my 6S and I was shocked that there was no LTE anywhere (that I could find), and the reception even 40 miles outside of London was pretty patchy.

Also looking at phone costs in isolation really doesn't paint the whole picture. Admittedly the exchange rate has shifted slightly post-Brexit, but check out the prices of new cars, or houses etc... A Subaru Outback will run you 30,000 in either country, but when the exchange rate was 1.5 USD to 1 GBP a Brit was paying 50% more for the same car.

Eating out is much more affordable in the US, clothing, shoes etc... all generally cheaper.
 
Unlimited data is a sham when you read the fine print. Like All You Can Eat buffets, you sacrifice quality for quantity and ultimately you eat no more than you would have if you paid for each serving. It's a security blanket for those people who were hit with high overage fees in the early days of smartphones. My GF insists on having unlimited data, not realizing that the bulk of her activity is texting. In reality, she uses less data than I do. Considering, too, that most people are within WiFi access most of the day, why would anyone perform data-heavy activities on a cell network?

I prefer reasonably priced data caps with no restrictions to unlimited handicapped data. Unfortunately, it continues to be a unicorn in the U.S.
 
The complete lack of LTE tethering is probably a deal-breaker. I rarely need to use it, but the idea that I have ZERO of it, instead of even just a few gigs, would make me hesitant. This part of the plan doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Obviously, I understand the lack of unlimited tethering, but why ZERO?

The Binge On is only going to get better once h.265 hits. The streams are not limited to 480P, but 1.5 megabits per second. Not sure why anyone complains about this. Seems like a good idea to spur better encoding plus it's optional.
Just a thought, but you can add it for $15. In the rare case you needed it you could always do that?

The way I approach this is I look st how often I might use something. I'd much rather pay less monthly and then pay for the time I need that extra something than be paying for something monthly I never use. Let's say tethering fit everyone would be $5?more per month. But I only use this twice a year. St that point I'm overpaying and should just add it a la cart the month(s) I want it.

Of course usage patterns differ. Someone that relies on tethering would not benefit from this necessarily. On the surface zero tethering sounded bad to me. But then I realized the last time I tethered was when I was stuck in an airport two winters ago.
 
Considering, too, that most people are within WiFi access most of the day, why would anyone perform data-heavy activities on a cell network?

Because why not? Zero need to search for Wi-Fi hotspots when your phone already has its own, high-speed, unlimited data connection.
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The HD video limitation is total B.S. in a market that is moving toward h.265 video.

It'll be less of a concern when more content is H.265. The resolution limitation is just a 1.5Mbps bitrate cap.
 
I'm curious, what are people doing aside from streaming that is so data heavy?

I'm not curious about business users. I'm interested in folks that just use their devices for personal use.

Not judging by the way. We are all different. I just can't even touch 10gb a month once streaming isn't considered. We don't hold back on browsing, getting directions, sending more than our fair share of pictures and video, backing up pictures and video to Flickr.
 



T-Mobile has introduced a new plan called T-Mobile ONE [PDF] that offers unlimited talk, text, and 4G LTE data for $70 per month. A second line can be added for $50 per month, while up to six more lines can be added for an additional $20 per month each. The total cost for a family of four, for example, would be $160 per month.

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T-Mobile ONE has some caveats to consider. First, unlimited video is limited to 480p standard definition for all services, with unlimited HD video available for $25 per month extra per line. Additionally, tethering is limited to 2G speeds, with 5GB of high-speed tethering available as a $15 add-on.

T-Mobile's existing Simple Choice plan with unlimited talk, text, and 4G LTE data costs $95 per month and includes unlimited HD video and 14GB of LTE tethering. The carrier also offers 2GB, 6GB, and 10GB of 4G LTE for $50, $65, and $80 respectively. These plans will remain available for a short time for new customers.


T-Mobile also clarified that, as with its Simple Choice plans, customers using the most data -- specifically the highest 3 percent -- may see their data traffic prioritized behind other users once they cross a threshold of around 26GB of data during their billing month. The carrier noted that throttling will only occur at specific times and places where there is network congestion.

The new plan includes usual T-Mobile perks such as Simple Global, Mobile Without Borders, Wi-Fi Unleashed, Stock Up, and T-Mobile Tuesdays. T-Mobile will also pay up to $650 in early termination fees to customers who switch over from AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint through its Carrier Freedom program.

T-Mobile ONE will be available for new postpaid customers on September 6, while new prepaid customers will be able to get the plan "in the future." Existing customers have the option to keep the Simple Choice plans they have or switch to T-Mobile ONE. The plan costs $5/month extra per line without AutoPay enabled.

T-Mobile follows in the footsteps of new data plans from AT&T and Verizon.

Article Link: T-Mobile Introduces $70 Unlimited Data Plan, But HD Video is $25 Extra

Wow it seems Tmobile is feeling the heat from offering such cheap prices, this seems like a price increase. 2 lines @ $120/month for what is pretty much 26gb versus my ATT plan which is $130/month for 20gb. $25 per line for HD streaming is terrible though, at least I can do what I want with my 20gb on ATT, and can apply that $25 to a higher data plan. $15 for HD tethering is also terrible, and only 5gb wow. So for my 2 lines I'd be at $120 + $50 + $ 15 = $185 for guaranteed 26gb versus $130 for guaranteed 20gb and no extra charges.

This is why ATT announced slightly higher prices and throttled unlimited, they knew they could get away with it because Tmobile's announcement was weak. Tmobile sounds like a carrier now, but they don't have the reliability or coverage of a "real" carrier. I have a feeling this is going to hurt them. I can just see the carriers responses "we don't throttle your data", which is hilarious seeing ATT/Verizon's stance on net neutrality, but it's most likely what they will counter with and they will be 100% correct. Tmobile caters to those who want a cheaper plan, plain and simple, that's their only appeal. With this they will still appeal to those who want cheaper plans and are willing to sacrifice for them. I'm ok paying a bit more but getting what I paid for and reception as well.
 
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I'm curious, what are people doing aside from streaming that is so data heavy?

I'm not curious about business users. I'm interested in folks that just use their devices for personal use.

Not judging by the way. We are all different. I just can't even touch 10gb a month once streaming isn't considered. We don't hold back on browsing, getting directions, sending more than our fair share of pictures and video, backing up pictures and video to Flickr.

While I'd say that 70% of my data usage is from streaming video, the rest is probably app updates over cellular data and other general things.
 
I'm curious, what are people doing aside from streaming that is so data heavy?

I'm not curious about business users. I'm interested in folks that just use their devices for personal use.

Not judging by the way. We are all different. I just can't even touch 10gb a month once streaming isn't considered. We don't hold back on browsing, getting directions, sending more than our fair share of pictures and video, backing up pictures and video to Flickr.

If it was only my wife and myself we would be ok with 1-2gb data per month shared. But add in the kids and their youtube streaming and such and we are closer to 12-15gb so have to have a higher plan. I know it's a lot of youtube, they don't use it when I'm around or in my car, but my wife is more forgiving and less patient, if you have kids you understand sometimes it's easier to give them the ipad.
 
If it was only my wife and myself we would be ok with 1-2gb data per month shared. But add in the kids and their youtube streaming and such and we are closer to 12-15gb so have to have a higher plan. I know it's a lot of youtube, they don't use it when I'm around or in my car, but my wife is more forgiving and less patient, if you have kids you understand sometimes it's easier to give them the ipad.
I get it. But that's why I'm discounting streaming. Since Thad been unlimited on all T-Mobile plans for something like 8 months.

My son was given our fourth line just for video since we weren't using it. He racks up something like 25gb a month in streaming lol. But it doesn't count against us so...
 
60 million is about the population of California, and we have 49 more states to go. Anyway, "tiny" refers to land area, which is a major factor in cellular coverage. It is farther from one end of Texas to the other than it is from Land's End to John O'Groats.

If companies are installing infrastructure to scale (which, I realize, is a costly and challenging task), then land area isn't as prohibitive as you make it sound.
 
I get it. But that's why I'm discounting streaming. Since Thad been unlimited on all T-Mobile plans for something like 8 months.

My son was given our fourth line just for video since we weren't using it. He racks up something like 25gb a month in streaming lol. But it doesn't count against us so...

Yeah the unlimited streaming of those services is certainly nice. I've definitely considered tmobile, but their reception is just not good where I am, and even when it's good it's terrible indoors. But now with the elimination of the lower gb plans they don't really seem like a good deal anymore. My suspicion is all those users on the lower data plans used up a ton of the free data and cost them a lot so they had to raise prices by eliminating those plans. They really went backwards against what they claim to stand for and IMO are now just a regular old carrier.
 
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