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I will definitely try it out. Right now I'm on Charter/Spectrum for $75/month. They advertise 200 meg service but deliver only 114. If T-Mobile can deliver 100 meg or close for $60, Charter/Spectrum is history. I checked and T-Mobile home is not yet available here so I'll have to wait.
 
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I have home 5G (non-US) and it's been much faster than my home cable.

I'm getting 400-600MBps down which is way higher than my landline can handle. And the latency is almost as good (7-15ms to local servers).

Don't underestimate it before you try it.
 
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I will definitely try it out. Right now I'm on Charter/Spectrum for $75/month. They advertise 200 meg service but deliver only 114. If T-Mobile can deliver 100 meg or close for $60, Charter/Spectrum is history. I checked and T-Mobile home is not yet available here so I'll have to wait.

How's T-Mobile's coverage in your area? That might give you an idea about how TMo Home will perform when it arrives.

I'm sorry you're not getting the full 200mbps from Spectrum... but at least it's a hardwired connection.

Cellular connections can be more flakey.

I must be lucky... I get more than I pay for with Spectrum. I'm on a 300mbps plan... but I just got 383mbps on a Speedtest... :oops:
 
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I'm remote, so this would be good... but I wonder what the speeds are at 7pm, certainly not 100Mbps. Although 5G is capable, having the throughput to every 5G hub is a completely different problem. But for $60, a real 100Mbps connection would be a huge step up for those that don't have broadband. And since it's mesh, I believe it requires minimal infrastructure at the actual "pole".
 
Is 5G really viable in rural areas? (genuinely curious)

It seems they will have to install quite a lot of antennas to cover such a small population.
No. Truly rural areas (like your road is a dirt road and/or you are 15 miles from a gas station and/or nobody would hear you being killed by a chainsaw in your front yard) in the USA have crummy cell phone connections period. If you are defining "rural" as "suburbs" then the answer currently and foreseeable future in the USA is also no. Not viable at all.

5G has been out for several years now in the USA and has caught on about as much as the Betamax.

I live in the suburbs near main routes, shopping plazas, and 12 miles from the mall and there is no 5G here and clearly nothing planned. I would bet that a)5G won't be here until late 2023 and b)it will be a tad faster than LTE/4G/whatever my iPhone 7 uses now on ATT and c)part b is the case right now in about 80% of the 5G rollout in the USA.

5G is way, way, way overhyped in the USA.
 
No it doesn't. That's not a technology problem, that's a business decision.

Prior to iPhones, data was geared towards WAP websites (remember that?). The iPhone landed and suddenly unlimited internet became a thing and every other provider had to keep up.

Remember when we had to pay 10 cents *per SMS*? How MMS cost more? At the rate people send texts these days, we'd spend easily a dollar a minute if not more, just having a casual conversation.

As more and more devices gain their own integrated connectivity, providers are going to compete for your business to get those devices online. Having a single plan that allows 10, 20, 50+ devices will become commonplace. 5G's bandwidth enables that — in fact, 5G was specifically designed for this kind of "Internet of Things" future.
Switch from WAP had nothing to do with iPhone and everything to do with the progress of the wireless technology. On GPRS, iPhone would be stuck with WAPs too.
 
I will definitely try it out. Right now I'm on Charter/Spectrum for $75/month. They advertise 200 meg service but deliver only 114. If T-Mobile can deliver 100 meg or close for $60, Charter/Spectrum is history. I checked and T-Mobile home is not yet available here so I'll have to wait.
I am on Charter/Spectrum and have been for 14 years. They are actually really good for tech/performance. Here are a few random tips:

1)They will increase (usually double) the downstream speed every 2-3 years FOR FREE but they WILL NOT TELL YOU. You need to call them every 12 months or so and inquire about the CURRENT pricing for the speeds and compare to what you are paying for. If there is a discrepency, they will gladly upgrade you for free. I've done this for 14 years.

2)If you are getting 1/2 the downstream, it can be a bunch of factors:
a)Charter wire to your house is bad
b)your cablemodem is older and doesn't support anything faster than X
c)the coax from the wall to your cablemodem is either loose or bad (this is unlikely but I have seen coax cables becoming loose and your speed then stinks)
d)your ethernet cable from the cablemodem to your computer or router is old (cat 5 or older) or kinked.
e)your cablemodem and/or "account" is provisioned incorrectly
f)don't test internet speeds using WIFI...it could be a dozen reasons why your WIFI router is not giving you great speeds. Plug your laptop into the ethernet port of your router or directly into the cablemodem.
g)if your laptop/desktop is using ethernet, are they CAT 5e cables or better? plain old CAT 5 maxes out at 100Mbit.

My charter/spectrum gives me 450 down/20 up for $45.99/month. It's been this price and speed since summer 2020. I live in CT. I get my full speeds.

I hope this helps.
 
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For the speed, $60 is a lot.

Horribly expensive

With no other context that is both true and not. Meaning, for my parents it would be a speed upgrade and a cost decrease. For me it would be the same cost but lowering my speed. The comment is sort of myopic.

I just disagree with the premise that it is just as secure.

I have work files that I will transfer on my lan from one home device to another. I will not do that if they have to go elsewhere unless I am using an explicitly secure protocol to share them. There is inherent risk by adding all of these things. They may not matter to you and they may not be relevant to HomeKit Secure video (thanks for that bTW), but if you work with sensitive data... this is less secure and will not fit all workflows. Obviously there are easy workarounds here like keep your lan AND have this.. yeah agree, that's not the same as one replacing the other. That's one adding more value but not a full overlap of value.

Additionally, I disagree with your premise that if your phone is cellular connected and you store data on it that you should be ok with this.

Multiplying endpoints that are connected to the internet more directly without a doubt will have some risk impact to it.

tldr - most people don't need NSA level security and what is offered "over the counter" can be considered good enough for most.

Are you saying this for the "general public" or for people who educate themselves about security? If you take appropriate precautions than you do what you can to mitigate risk. You can never be fully secure and connected, and security is not about that, its about mitigating risk where you can. T-Mobile will have their version of this risk mitigation. Educated users will likely add some additional steps on top of that. However, it does seem like your concerns are if people have intensely sensitive data and are just totally willie nilly with it. Which the original OP was basically speaking to services where data is end-to-end encrypted as a manor of showing layers of mitigation. That concept IS a good way of looking at security. You might want more layers because of how sensitive you deem your data, but that doesn't invalidate layering security so a public connection is not seen as a viable threat.
 
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Fast Internet at home is one problem I am glad I don't have to worry about. Thanks, but no thanks!
 
This is where I've been saying the industry is headed and is exactly why Apple discontinued their AirPort.

As 5G infrastructure spreads, eventually every device that needs connectivity will have it built in. Everything from a laptop to a smart watch to a connected lightbulb to a smart dog collar will have a 5G chip that accesses your 5G plan and is always online.

The days of WiFi networking will give way to always connected devices networking via the cloud, not a local router.

Incorrect. This new offering from T-Mobile is literally providing a Wi-Fi router for home users.
 
Can it be converted to a modem so that I can use my own router?
Yes. You can plug in your own router via Ethernet if you choose. Make sure to turn off the built-in wi-fi if you do so to avoid double-NAT issues (same as you would do for a cable modem with a built-in router if you were using your own separate router).
 
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I signed up for it a few months ago and it was HORRIBLE! I have a 5G NR tower about 3 miles from my house that gives me pretty good signal on my devices when im outside, However we have a mini tower on the power pole about 1 mile that provides a pocket of the area with LTE data (We live near a state park so tmobile uses this small tower to fill in a dead zone) this home internet modem kept bouncing between the 5G NR tower and the 4G tower and at times it would actually freeze the modem requiring it to restart because of this, there is no way to "Lock" it to tell it to only connect to the 5G tower.

And the biggest thing is it has NO external antennas on it!!! The way my home is built I get piss poor coverage in the home but when I walk outside I get 4 bars of 5G. I dont know who in the right mind thought that leaving out the option for the user to attach a external antenna was a good idea.

Overall if you have NO other source of internet and are by a tmobile cell tower than this may be good but other than that this thing sucks!
My experience differs, but your results obviously depends on whether it gets a solid signal in your home. One nice feature, though, is that it has batteries so that you can walk around your home and check the signal in various spots before you settle on one. You have to plug it in to actually use it, of course.
 
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Always avoid Autopay when possible. Once you let a corporation into your bank account, it's difficult to get them out. They can take your money (i.e. after service cancellation or in the event of disputes) and the burden is on you to try and get it back. When you pay through traditional invoice/payment, YOU are always in control - if there is a dispute, you don't pay and they have to try and get it.

It really isn't that hard. 1 ACH stop payment and they forever can't debit your account until you remove it.
 
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My experience differs, but your results obviously depends on whether it gets a solid signal in your home. One nice feature, though, is that it has batteries so that you can walk around your home and check the signal in various spots before you settle on one. You have to plug it in to actually use it, of course.

Cool.
 
FYI, there are 10's of millions of people in this country (like me) that still don't have access to broadband let alone gig internet.
Yup. They actually launched this plan (for $50) a few months ago in limited areas. I told a co-worker about it. He moved from a suburb to a rural area & he lost his high speed internet. He tried satellite, but it wouldn't work with a VPN, so he switched to T Mobile through some third party service. They were charging him $150/month for the same thing. When I told him, he switched right away & is saving $1,200/year.
 
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Yes. You can plug in your own router via Ethernet if you choose. Make sure to turn off the built-in wi-fi if you do so to avoid double-NAT issues (same as you would do for a cable modem with a built-in router if you were using your own separate router).
Turning off built-in Wi-Fi disables the NAT in the T-Mobile device? Normally those are two independent features.
 
Always avoid Autopay when possible. Once you let a corporation into your bank account, it's difficult to get them out. They can take your money (i.e. after service cancellation or in the event of disputes) and the burden is on you to try and get it back. When you pay through traditional invoice/payment, YOU are always in control - if there is a dispute, you don't pay and they have to try and get it.
Pretty easy. Call the bank and remove them from auto payment. Not difficult at all.
 
So funny how people cheer for 5G when 80% don't need anything faster then 3G, and even less know the difference.
 
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