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Not sure what market you're in but be aware that those lines bringing over unlocked iPhones might have some spotty HSPA+ service depending on your area.


Thanks, but here are areas with HSPA+
http://androidandme.com/2012/12/carriers/t-mobile-upgrades-14-new-metro-areas-to-4g-hspa-on-1900-mhz-band/
AND HERE:
http://androidandme.com/2012/12/carriers/t-mobile-now-offers-4g-speeds-for-att-and-unlocked-phones-in-23-metro-areas/

San Diego & Los Angeles show up on second link above.
 
It vaguely claims it will work with my 4s--obviously no LTE--but the other features I'd like.
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If you really did port your number over from AT&T to T-Mobile and you were still under a contract with AT&T, be prepared for AT&T to try to nail you with an ETF. Not sure how much begging it will take to get them to waive it if you come back within 14 days. They're probably not required to; but they might do it as a gesture of good will if you come back to them.

when i left at&t a few years ago, i was charged an early termination fee, but the customer service rep i spoke to told me they'd credit my account the etf if i decided to come back within 90 days.
 
Tmobile will only allow insurance on iPhones purchased from them. They will not insure or process insurance claims for unlocked iPhones purchased through Apple or other retailers.

Did you not read my previous post? T-mobile has already allowed me to add premium handset protection on my (BYOP) iP5. ;)
 

I think the big problem right now with tmobile is they need to do a better job clarifying all this information and updating their coverage maps. Right now it's a confusing mess, you really don't know what to expect and on which device. For example this weekend I was visiting Newark, NJ a city on the above list, using an AT&T unlocked iphone5 with a new tmobile sim card and indoors on the first floor of a two floor building I was getting either edge or 3G service but the data connection was really bad and unreliable or unusable. Outside I believe the connection was 3G.

-Mike
 
LOL - the irony - you just judged based on your high moral grounds!

Regardless, if the details of the insurance define "accident" as "accident", then it is fraud to claim accident when it is on purpose. This is just the legal system.

I don't think irony means what you think it means.
 
I think the big problem right now with tmobile is they need to do a better job clarifying all this information and updating their coverage maps. Right now it's a confusing mess, you really don't know what to expect and on which device. For example this weekend I was visiting Newark, NJ a city on the above list, using an AT&T unlocked iphone5 with a new tmobile sim card and indoors on the first floor of a two floor building I was getting either edge or 3G service but the data connection was really bad and unreliable or unusable. Outside I believe the connection was 3G.

-Mike



That's so weird because we are suppose to see the 4G on our iPhones after the refarming, not just 3G.

At least that's what I understand in these articles:
http://androidandme.com/2012/12/carr...1900-mhz-band/
AND HERE:
http://androidandme.com/2012/12/carr...3-metro-areas/
Since HSPA and HSPA+ have been refarmed (in these areas/cities).


I'm getting a T-Mo SIM Card tomorrow to finish my Factory Unlock process... I'll post my findings then!!!
 
That's so weird because we are suppose to see the 4G on our iPhones after the refarming, not just 3G.

At least that's what I understand in these articles:
http://androidandme.com/2012/12/carr...1900-mhz-band/
AND HERE:
http://androidandme.com/2012/12/carr...3-metro-areas/
Since HSPA and HSPA+ have been refarmed (in these areas/cities).
I'm guessing we will after the carrier update we are all waiting for comes through. And i'm also guessing right now even if we are on a 4G or LTE zone that the iphone5 supports we won't be able to connect to it but will once the carrier update is in place. It seems to me that the carrier update allows tmobile to unlock these things with Apple's blessing.

-Mike
 
That's so weird because we are suppose to see the 4G on our iPhones after the refarming, not just 3G.
What in most countries in the world is 3G, in the US carriers like to call 4G. And I'm talking about HSPA+

So now we have "Faux G" which is HSPA+ and 4G LTE...

Anyways, that "3G" logo will change into "4G" once Apple pushes T-Mobile Carrier Bundle...
 
i'm guessing we will after the carrier update we are all waiting for comes through. And i'm also guessing right now even if we are on a 4g or lte zone that the iphone5 supports we won't be able to connect to it but will once the carrier update is in place. It seems to me that the carrier update allows tmobile to unlock these things with apple's blessing.

-mike


sounds right to me too!!!
 
As far as I've been told by a few AT&T cust serv reps when they try to convince me to switch to their New Mobile Share Plans, customers can come back to the Unlimited within 60 days. (I currently have 6 lines with AT&T; 2 unlimited & 4 with their 3GB plan), but doesn't matter for me since I'm porting lines over to T-Mo

I don't know if same offer work when cust leave company and come back, but I think it does.

But in your situation, you were staying with AT&T and just changing plans. If you leave and go with another company, I'm sure they would take away your unlimited plan if you decided to come back, even if it's only for a day.
 
I don't think tests right... b'cus I've received 4 iPhone 4S replacements... Two came in New Apple OEM Boxes and I was told by Asurion they gas New in stock and two others came in white boxes and I was told by Asurion I would get Refurb b'cus they were out of stock on New ones

All four Asurion replacements start with MD (just checked).

They only started doing this with the iPhone 5, not 4S. I should have made it a little clearer in my post. And these are for Apple refurbished units.
 
That is what i'm doing, testing the service for 14 days. If it doesn't work out I return to AT&T and no damage done. I think eventually tmobile will have a great network but it might not be there just yet.

-Mike

The carrier update will enable LTE on the AT&T iPhone 5, but not HSPA+ (which is very fast but only supported on the T-Mobile iPhone 5). So if you live in an area with LTE you should be fine when the carrier update is released.

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Did you not read my previous post? T-mobile has already allowed me to add premium handset protection on my (BYOP) iP5. ;)

I read it, but you seem to think once you commit fraud T-Mobile has to give you one of its iPhones as opposed to replacing the AT&T one you have. You also assume T-Mobile manages its own insurance program.
 
The carrier update will enable LTE on the AT&T iPhone 5, but not HSPA+ (which is very fast but only supported on the T-Mobile iPhone 5). So if you live in an area with LTE you should be fine when the carrier update is released.

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I read it, but you seem to think once you commit fraud T-Mobile has to give you one of its iPhones as opposed to replacing the AT&T one you have. You also assume T-Mobile manages its own insurance program.

:rolleyes:
I responded to the comment posted by CEmajr. I guess this is your alter ego or maybe your just Capt. Save-a-Hoe and need to respond to everything you see and start making accusations of Fraud! :eek:

Reviewing my terms of service with Asurion, I came across this:

Covered equipment:
You’re covered for one wireless device, utilizing the SIM card associated with your T-Mobile® account at the moment of loss, theft, damage or malfunction.
Should your wireless device become lost, stolen or damaged, you’re also covered for the following accessories: one standard battery, one standard charger and one SIM card. If you use your SIM card in a Tier E device, you will be charged the Tier E premium.

Funny doesn't mention anything about accidental damage, just says damage. The terms haven't been updated to include the iP5 yet so I'm sure all of the terms will change. All of this is irrelevant anyway, theres no way they can prove wether or not a phone was thrown or dropped and most claims are online and people could put whatever they want on the claim. Im explaining how the system works and not that I'm out to just make a claim for a new phone.

Furthermore the vibrator on my iP5 has stopped working (come on apple not even a month old) and I have already reported it to applecare. What was their response? "I, see sir. We can definitely replace the phone for you, just make an appointment at one of the Apple store and you will be taken cared of." I responded "I'm on t-mobile now, should I wait until the devices are upgraded?" His response? "I would. Its going to be the same model number and it will give you full access to t-mobiles network"

See, I dont need to lie and make things up to get what I want. I just have to ask. You can take your Fraud theories somewhere else! ;)

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Well said. I hate people that judge others based on their high moral grounds.

Thanks!:)
 
:rolleyes:
I responded to the comment posted by CEmajr. I guess this is your alter ego or maybe your just Capt. Save-a-Hoe and need to respond to everything you see and start making accusations of Fraud! :eek:

Reviewing my terms of service with Asurion, I came across this:

Covered equipment:
You’re covered for one wireless device, utilizing the SIM card associated with your T-Mobile® account at the moment of loss, theft, damage or malfunction.
Should your wireless device become lost, stolen or damaged, you’re also covered for the following accessories: one standard battery, one standard charger and one SIM card. If you use your SIM card in a Tier E device, you will be charged the Tier E premium.

Funny doesn't mention anything about accidental damage, just says damage. The terms haven't been updated to include the iP5 yet so I'm sure all of the terms will change. All of this is irrelevant anyway, theres no way they can prove wether or not a phone was thrown or dropped and most claims are online and people could put whatever they want on the claim. Im explaining how the system works and not that I'm out to just make a claim for a new phone.

Furthermore the vibrator on my iP5 has stopped working (come on apple not even a month old) and I have already reported it to applecare. What was their response? "I, see sir. We can definitely replace the phone for you, just make an appointment at one of the Apple store and you will be taken cared of." I responded "I'm on t-mobile now, should I wait until the devices are upgraded?" His response? "I would. Its going to be the same model number and it will give you full access to t-mobiles network"

See, I dont need to lie and make things up to get what I want. I just have to ask. You can take your Fraud theories somewhere else! ;)

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Thanks!:)


Give me a break, you are the one who said you think sometime after the T-Mobile iPhone gets released you are going to have an accident. By definition, an accident is unintentional, which clearly isn't what you meant. Fraud is defined as, "To . . . cheat, or deceive." That seems to be what you meant unless you plan to tell the insurance company you purposefully damaged the device. More importantly, you originally asked for peoples' thoughts. It is not my fault you don't like my thoughts that you asked for.

Further, from T-Mobile's website, "PHP Insurance [includes]
• Coverage for loss, theft, and accidental damage." So, you clearly are wrong that it doesn't mention accidental damage.

It is also worth noting, that T-Mobile's insurance is run by an independent company named asurion. In it's terms and conditions of insurance, it says, "At our option, we or the Authorized Service Center may repair the Covered
Property with substitute parts or provide substitute equipment that:
a. Is of like kind, quality and functionality;
b. Is either new, refurbished or remanufactured, and may contain original
or non-original manufacturer parts; and
c. May be a different brand, model or color."

It also lists, "Dishonest or Criminal Acts" as "Property Not Covered" under the policy.

If the iPhone 5's vibrator isn't working, then why wouldn't you just wait a while and legitimately have Apple replace the phone? If you did it in person, you might even be able to get the Apple representative to give you one of the new phones. Why get T-Mobile's insurance company to pay for what you are now claiming is a defective iPhone?

Finally, in contrast to the other person who thinks my remarks are a moral judgement that is incorrect. People seem to think we live in a vacuum. The price of insurance everybody pays is reflective of how many people make claims.
 
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Give me a break, you are the one you said you think sometime after the T-Mobile iPhone gets released you are going to have an accident. By definition, an accident is unintentional, which clearly isn't what you meant. Fraud is defined as, "To . . . cheat, or deceive." That seems to be what you meant unless you plan to tell the insurance company you purposefully damaged the device. More importantly, you originally asked for peoples' thoughts. It is not my fault you don't like my thoughts that you asked for.

Further, from T-Mobile's website, "PHP Insurance [includes]
• Coverage for loss, theft, and accidental damage." So, you clearly are wrong that it doesn't mention accidental damage.

It is also worth noting, that T-Mobile's insurance is run by an independent company named asurion. In it's terms and conditions of insurance, it says, "At our option, we or the Authorized Service Center may repair the Covered
Property with substitute parts or provide substitute equipment that:
a. Is of like kind, quality and functionality;
b. Is either new, refurbished or remanufactured, and may contain original
or non-original manufacturer parts; and
c. May be a different brand, model or color."

It also lists, "Dishonest or Criminal Acts" as "Property Not Covered" under the policy.

If the iPhone 5's vibrator isn't working, then why wouldn't you just wait a while and legitimately have Apple replace the phone? If you did it in person, you might even be able to get the Apple representative to give you one of the new phones. Why get T-Mobile's insurance company to pay for what you are now claiming is a defective iPhone?

Finally, in contrast to the other person who thinks my remarks are a moral judgement that is incorrect. People seem to think we live in a vacuum. The price of insurance everybody pays is reflective of how many people make claims.



Can we get back to the IMPORTANT TOPIC... Rber title of thread?
"T-Mobile USA Rolling Out Software Update for Existing Unlocked iPhone Customers"
 
And yet you asked why Verizon was listed. So if the comment wasn't really why then why make the comment.
Because it was about what that list of updates lists, but not about Verizon getting the T-Mobile update.

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But what did we leave at? To check Settings>General>About? Or Connect to iTunes?
For an update like this either should work. Now which one might show it first (and by how much), that's a somewhat different question.
 
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