This exact point was made two years ago before the reveal of the iPhone 4.
It was wrong then by the way.
Only time will tell if it's wrong again.
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This exact point was made two years ago before the reveal of the iPhone 4.
It was wrong then by the way.
Only time will tell if it's wrong again.
I don't think this will happen at all. In design wise, a taller phone doesn't look good. Second it should also be wider to probably have the 720p HD screen. So make it taller and wider. Even though i'm getting the HTC One S I am really curious to what the new iPhone looks like. So far no iPhone 5 prototype hasn't been left in the bar. So this makes the WWDC 2012 really interesting.
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If it's wider, then it doesn't fit in your hand in the same way. A taller phone does, and it makes the talking easier because the mic is closer to your mouth. Also, the taller one is about 16:9, which is good.
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In that case, you are just staring too closely at a screen. Of course it will appear low-res to you.
If it's wider, then it doesn't fit in your hand in the same way. A taller phone does, and it makes the talking easier because the mic is closer to your mouth. Also, the taller one is about 16:9, which is good.
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I would hold a 4-inch phone just as close to my eyes as a 3.5-inch phone.
In that case, you are just staring too closely at a screen. Of course it will appear low-res to you.
I'm a bit surprised to hear that. My first iPhone was the 4S because I was on Sprint. And because I was on Sprint I never really paid too much attention to the iPhone until after it was released at which time I would just read up on it. So I never saw what others here saw regarding leaks and such prior to the release of earlier versions.
Okay, please let me begin by quoting...'hellz'....what in the world is that? Are you like, 12?
Now, onto the next issue...
After I grow some ball'z' as well as grab a brain, I will let you know that most Apple lovers pay the price they do because the products are worth the money. I went through 3 droids, several years ago, that ALL crashed. When I say crash, I mean basically began locking up, freezing, choking...a plethora of things...you get the picture. I have never, and I repeat never had a phone that operated as flawlessly as the iPhone consistently operates.
I am one of the iPhone fangirls that desire a new design with a larger screen (both wider and taller). But as badly as I wish to have that change, if Apple does not make the next iPhone larger, it would still be difficult to switch phones because iPhones and iOS operates MUCH more flawlessly than Android OS.
I'm gonna bet that no matter what Apple ends up putting out for the next iPhone, it will sell like hotcakes. Have we ever known Apple to put out something that isn't amazing aesthetically and functionally?
I will agree that it would be nice to have some more screen width too, however I'm resting assured that whatever they put out is going to be awesome.
I will agree that it would be nice to have some more screen width too, however I'm resting assured that whatever they put out is going to be awesome.
I wouldnt say that the exact point was made prior to the launch of the iPhone 4. I think your other post was actually spot on, the "leaked" photos and parts fly in the face of typical Apple design aesthetics, and look more like a chinese iPhone knock off.
It's true. When the first iPhone 4 photos leaked out, the majority of comments were along the lines that "Apple and Ive would never design such an ugly device".
For example, here are just a few of the top-rated comments in this old MacRumors news article:
And a comment similar to what people are saying now:
Such history of fan fickleness is why people aren't very supportive of those who think "Apple would never make such a device".
The forum has been there, done that
The rumors never cease...
They're kind of interesting to follow, but I... try... not to get too worked up about it until something is actually announced. We'll see when it gets here and I'm sure we'll find out why Apple made the decision at the keynote.
I'm not sure what to make of this if it does become the actual product. I get the 16:9 ratio idea for video, but I personally would prefer a phone a bit wider. My only complaint with my iPhone 4 is that the portrait keyboard is a bit cramped, but I prefer it over the landscape one. Or maybe my hands are just the wrong size.
I guess taller and wider makes more sense to me to keep the current aspect ratio so games and the like scale up nicely, but I'm sure Apple will have their reasons one way or the other. Too early to call.
They're kind of interesting to follow, but I... try... not to get too worked up about it until something is actually announced.
We'll see when it gets here and I'm sure we'll find out why Apple made the decision at the keynote.I'm not sure what to make of this if it does become the actual product. I get the 16:9 ratio idea for video, but I personally would prefer a phone a bit wider. My only complaint with my iPhone 4 is that the portrait keyboard is a bit cramped, but I prefer it over the landscape one. Or maybe my hands are just the wrong size.
I guess taller and wider makes more sense to me to keep the current aspect ratio so games and the like scale up nicely, but I'm sure Apple will have their reasons one way or the other. Too early to call.
That's right. Apple currently sells phones with 2 different resolutions. Apps and some content (e.g. Kindle eBooks) need to be optimized for the Retina display. It is already fragmentation and with iPhone5 it may be more fragmented.One phone, one resolution. Another phone, another resolution.
Overall iOS is fragmented to four resolutions
- iPad classic
- iPad retina
- iPhone classic
- iPhone retina
Android on the other hand has two current OS versions, but unlike iOS, Android OS is resolution independent, it supports fluid layouts and multiple ratios/resolutions.
- Android 3.0 for tablets
- Android 4.0 for phones
Pixel-perfect approach of iOS is limiting and dated. Apple needs to make a major redesign of iOS to make it resolution independent to allow flexibility for future hardware releases, including Phones of various sizes.
Jobs worked on this iPhone
Steve Jobs worked closely preparing the next several product releases. By the sounds of it in fact, anything that comes out of apple for the next year or two was probably planned on by Jobs.
Steve Jobs worked closely preparing the next several product releases. By the sounds of it in fact, anything that comes out of apple for the next year or two was probably planned on by Jobs.
Actually there's only two different resolutions -- the one for the iPhone, and the one for the iPad. I say that because there's no difference between a standard or retina resolution for a developer, aside from providing higher resolution assets.
When you create an app, you need only design and code for the iPhone's 3:2 480x320 points display, and the iPad's 4:3 1024x768 points display -- that's how much workspace you have.
If the iPhone 5 was introduced, either Apple would need to rewrite iOS to support variable resolutions, or it would mean adding a third resolution to support, a 16:9 576x320 display.
What I want to see is a 4 to 4.4 inch display with a 1440x960 IPS display and tri-core SGX543 graphics
It truly wouldn't look that bad. See article:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/apple/iphone/iphone-5-putting-the-leaks-and-rumors-to-the-test/
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/apple/iphone/iphone-5-putting-the-leaks-and-rumors-to-the-test/
You just said yourself, that you need to create a higher resolution assets for a retina display app. And then you have to recompile an app, test it, upload to the app store... a complete cycle, right?
In addition certain content needs to be optimized by developer as well for the retina display. For instance, an original fixed layout Kindle book running in the Kindle App for iPad 2 would occupy only a quarter of the iPad 3 screen. So again, ebook developer has to to through a trouble of rebuilding the book, testing it on at least 4 devices and resubmitting to Apple. It's too much work. OS has to be smarter than that.
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IPS is still a backlit LCD with its all shortcomings. It is dated technology on the way out.What I want to see is a 4 to 4.4 inch display with a 1440x960 IPS display and tri-core SGX543 graphics
- I would like on the next iPhones to see some flavor of OLED display.
- I would like to see a resolution-independent iOS
- And I would like to see Apple offering iPhones in different sizes, e.g. 3.5", 4.5", 5.5" to meet various consumer needs.
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GREAT read with lots of images. I love the print outs they provide. I printed it and I do think the size is pretty great. Still not sure how I feel about that rumored back....
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5.5?!! Are you crazy?? That's not a phone that's a brick
True, very few films are 16:9. Many are around ~21:9 or usually called 2.35:1. But I was referring to "Video". The video we shoot with virtually every video camera we have today including our iPhones (or most any smartphone or camcorder) is 16:9. Nearly all TV programming is 16:9 today, and that's an international standard too.
So if i want to watch "Avatar" they way it was shown in the theater it would be letter boxed just like it is on my iPad. But most modern Films today are also shot with 16:9 in mind. Even though the theatrical presentation may be 2.35:1 (21:9) it's often converted well to 16:9 for Blu-ray distribution. I have Avatar on my iPad converted from my original copy on Blu-ray. Even though the theatrical presentation of "Avatar" was probably wider screen, it sure looks like it was shot with 16:9 in mind. The Blu-ray copy looks perfect. (I know the actual production is actually 4K and perhaps around 4 times the resolution, depending on the aspect ratio they used for the recording).
Surprising, even on my iPad, watching Avatar zoomed in to fill the 4:3 screen, it still doesn't look too bad, James Cameron really concentrated on keeping the action in the center of the screen. Though I'd still rather see it in letterbox on the iPad, or perfectly fit a newer 16:9 ratio iPhone screen.
That is a nice article. I noticed from the mockups, and then from my own screen shots that the distance between the icons on the springboard (home screen) is exactly 176 pixels vertically.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the proposed new vertical resolution of 1136 is exactly 176 pixels more than the current 960 pixels. So adding another row of apps would fit exactly. I also noticed some other interesting geometrics using a pixel ruler on the screen shot. The center of the dots above the bottom apps (that are on every page) to show which page you're on is exactly where the next row of apps would be, etc.
LCD is still the best, OLED is over saturated, but this hopefully will change
IPS backlit LCD is still the best technology for display quality. It keeps getting better. For example, the new iPad IPS LCD display broke all the record for image quality on a consumer product. It's so close to studio quality when testing the contrast ratio, color gamut, and saturation, the professionals were surprised. I'm not talking about the pixel density and the high resolution either, but it's also the highest resolution display for it's size also.
OLED still has problems, but I do believe that it will be the best in a few years. The main problem is the over color saturation of OLED displays. If you like your TV set with the "color knob", or the saturation setting set all the way to the max, you may like it. But the over saturation of OLED displays only look good at first instant. Nothing in nature is that saturated, therefore it doesn't display accurate images.
I can't wait till OLED is inexpensive, bright and shows accurate color, then it will truly be a great display technology!
IPS backlit LCD is still the best technology for display quality. It keeps getting better. For example, the new iPad IPS LCD display broke all the record for image quality on a consumer product. It's so close to studio quality when testing the contrast ratio, color gamut, and saturation, the professionals were surprised. I'm not talking about the pixel density and the high resolution either, but it's also the highest resolution display for it's size also.
OLED still has problems, but I do believe that it will be the best in a few years. The main problem is the over color saturation of OLED displays. If you like your TV set with the "color knob", or the saturation setting set all the way to the max, you may like it. But the over saturation of OLED displays only look good at first instant. Nothing in nature is that saturated, therefore it doesn't display accurate images.
I can't wait till OLED is inexpensive, bright and shows accurate color, then it will truly be a great display technology!
Newest LCD TVs still can't beat old Pioneer Elite plasma in terms of image quality.
OLED over-saturation is not a problem, but a matter of display settings/calibration. OLED surely has a much wide saturation range, but again it can be controlled by either manufacturer or by user.
Besides better blacks, saturation, and side viewing, OLED displays also much thinner than LCD and offer better average power consumption.
This phone is ********** ugly. I love Apple products, and would probably buy this phone even if it did come out looking like this, but this design is terrible. I would bet that Steve Jobs would not approve of it. What they should do is make the phone about 1/4 inch wider, leave the height the same, and then reduce the bezel at the top and bottom, and on the sides - keeping the same aspect ratio. The screen size would be 4". This phone would be much sexier than this mockup/concept/actual phone/whatever.
I wonder how SJ would feel about this.. Hell, I'm now even sure how I feel about this..
Go and ask him then.