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Again, effort/resources expended is not enough to justify an action, so it only clutters an argument to bring that up. Morality doesnt depend on how much effort something took you.
I agree that effort/resources spent does not make something moral/immoral. Reselling, IMO, is perfectly moral in and of itself.

Target is a reseller. They are purchasing their goods for a certain price and they are marking it up for a profit. The fact that Apple enforces strict guidelines on what their official resellers can charge could be considered of questionable morality by some, but I have no problem with that. I also have no problem if supply/demand dictates a higher price. The market will sort itself out, and this is just a temporary aspect of that market. The average person can choose to:
a) Buy it (and get it) for list price today if they hustle and/or are lucky.
b) Buy it for list price today but wait up to 5 weeks for delivery.
c) Buy it (and get it) today for a mutually agreed upon price from a reseller, at a possibly significant markup.

Again, if Apple did not force their official resellers to sell their items at a set price, brick and mortar stores might have stock in hand but be selling them at a significant markup. That's smart business, IMO, not immoral. If you don't like the price, no one forces you to pay it. If enough people don't like the price, it will come down in price.

And Apple's set-price restrictions work both ways. Sometimes a retailer may want to sell an item at a price below Apple's MSRP, yet they cannot. Is that immoral on Apple's part?

As I said, I don't expect that a lot of people will appreciate this point of view, because this is a "congrats" thread, with people feverishly looking to score a single unit for their own use. I can appreciate that, but one is not thinking with a clear head when they're caught up in that.
 
I was finally able to get my 16gb white wifi this morning! Thanks to all for the help. Store 30 miles showed limited availability at 6:30 EDT. I and another guy walked in at 8am, but i was the first to the electronic counter. Nobody was around & I found a girl that worked in toys. She checked in the back in the electronics lock up & nothing. Then the electronics guy came & he paged someone to ask if any came in. The other guy on the radio said no. I nicely explained that it is showing as in inventory. I was looking up the DCPI number to give him, when he searched under the counter in the cabinet. Lo & behold there it was. The only one. :)

P.S. It took 90 minutes before it changed to out of stock online.
 
a) Buy it (and get it) for list price today if they hustle and/or are lucky.
b) Buy it for list price today but wait up to 5 weeks for delivery.
c) Buy it (and get it) today for a mutually agreed upon price from a reseller, at a possibly significant markup.
(C) Is only an option because the resellers are running around hoarding all of the stock so it limits buyers choices of (A). I haven't even attempted to get an iPad 2 at one of the Apple stores here in NYC due to the number of resellers and mules camping out in the lines hogging all of the stock. You see free market. I see selfishness and greed. Reselling it for 2-3 times the list price IS greed. They're only thinking of fattening their wallets and anyone else who wants one for personal use or as a gift for a family member be damned!


As I said, I don't expect that a lot of people will appreciate this point of view, because this is a "congrats" thread, with people feverishly looking to score a single unit for their own use. I can appreciate that, but one is not thinking with a clear head when they're caught up in that.
This isn't a "congrats" thread. It's a thread for people who are desperately trying to find stock other than at an Apple store because of the resellers. That's why we are angry when we see resellers posting here taking stock.
 
My mom managed to snag one at the Laurel, MD store this morning. They were "Available" but the employees couldn't find it / were not very helpful. Even customer service couldn't / wouldn't find it.

We walked back to Electronics again and saw an employee bringing two black 32GB iPads to the cashier.

To the MacRumors guys who waited with us: The iPads were there, they only had two, and they are apparently were in some sort of locked cage that only limited employees have keys to open.
 
I find nothing wrong with flipping/reselling, however, coming on an enthusiast forum and bragging about it is the very definition of being a douche. Congrats guy, you made some cash and are a total jerk.

It is like bragging about your new fur coat on the PETA forums.

Back on topic, nothing new came into the S Florida area.

I find it interesting that 64 GB white wifi models seemed to be out there all over the country yesterday, and on Wed the flavor of the day was black 32GB wifi. What will Target get allocated next?
 
Can't believe it! Got the 16gb ATT black model this morning! (Yes, that's the one I wanted!)
I checked the inventory and 2 targets had JUST that one - limited availability. (Changed over night) I already had a bad experience at the Target closest to me so I was hesitant. Didn't want to argue and push them to check everywhere. Well, I got there 2 minutes before 8 and one guy was waiting outside as I pulled in. He was inside by the time I parked; I dont know where he went because I was the only one in electronics. There it was! in the case all alone on the top shelf! I can't believe how smoothly it went! Yay!

P.S. By the time I got home about 30 minutes later, the inventory already said "out of stock"
 
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Just wanted to stop by and say thanks to all the people posting the info into this thread for target ...
After failing at 4 apple stores on me and my bfs part (I'm in Cali and he's in Vegas ) finally the past thrusday I told him to check target because the dcpi stock checker posted in this thread showed that the Henderson target had both of the ones that I wanted . So he raced ovr there and they didn't have them. But the iguy did say the south location had them. So he called and the guy in electronics said they couldn't hold them and to hurry. So he then raced over there to get them and was able to pick up a 32 gb wifi in white and one in black .

Again thanx for the info and good luck hunting :apple:
 
Like many others in this thread, I just wanted to thank everyone for the help. I was finally able to pick up a black 32GB thismorning. Showed up as "Available" when I checked around 7:30 thismorning. 45 minutes later I walked into the store, straight to the electronics counter and asked the rep if they had any in stock. Sure enough, he had just a SINGLE ipad2 under the counter. I had to drive about 30 miles to get it, but it was worth it.

Also, the Available tag was gone about 20 minutes after I picked it up. So maybe some stores are faster to update than others? This target seemed like it was more or less brand new.

Thanks again everyone!
 
But as of 8:30 this morning, out of stock is still what's being reported in the mid hudson valley. I guess no saturday deliveries??? Anybody know?:(

I saw stock changes in my area this morning at one out of about 10 stores, so some deliveries must happen Fri afternoon or overnight. Probably depends on your store.

Did anyone here hit Cheltenham this morning? ;)
 
Score!

Well, this morning was my lucky day (buying lotto tickets later today). I got up early, checked some threads here and proceeded to search Target in my area. Only one listed "limited availability" which I questioned, but I saddled-up and went just in case. I pulled-up and no one was waiting outside, so I went to the doors to wait. A couple in a parked car then got out and got in line behind me. I offered them to take first position since they were parked first but said no, I was first to the doors. Soon many showed, coming from a local Apple Store. Cut to the chase, doors open, late comers tried to make a mad dash to the Electronics Dept. and I actually didn't get back there first, but the nice people I was in line with insisted that I was first. The clerk pulled out the only one they had, which was exactly what I wanted. I again turned to the couple and said are you sure and they said it's your's. Sadly, I wish they had more for those I waited with, especially the couple.

Point of the story is, TRUST THE STOCK LOOKUP. They are there, somewhere in back. I've had others tell me they've missed them by minutes and they do drop from the list shortly after being sold.

Best of luck to everyone!
 
I got my iPad this morning! This morning I checked the stocks of targets in my area and found that a target showed "available" for the 32gb black model. I went there and got there 10 minutes before opening. I was waiting outside when the manager came out and said that there were no iPads today. Apparently he talked to the person who stocks the shelves who said there were none. I pretended to believe him however when the store opened and we were allowed to enter I fast walked it to the electronics. Of course, no iPads in the case so I went over to a price scanner which said that they did have them in the stock room. A target employee was walking by so I asked her to check it for me. She looked it up on her little price scanner thing but couldn't find it on her scanner however she did check the back for me. Sure enough, she comes out with 4 iPads! The funny thing is it was in the same mall as the Apple store which had long lines. A woman behind me said that her husband was waiting in line at the apple store - haha! But this goes to show, THE COMPUTER IS RIGHT!!
 
No movement in any of the East Bay stores that I could see—I checked zips 94703, 94587, and 94520, which should cover most of the East Bay.

Alas :(
 
i'm noticing a pattern. did apple produce less of the 16 GB models over the higher capacity models?(
That's possible. Apple may know what I figured out on my own with the iPad 1. For marketing reasons they still offer the 16GB but probably want to discourage them to prevent disappointment backlash. I am already more than half full on a 64GB iPad after one vacation of transferring photos via a camera connection kit. With two built in cameras and video you have to wonder how fast one would eat up 16GB. I think there will be a lot of disappointed people with 16GB iPad 2s especially if they plan to take and store photos and videos.
 
Back on topic, nothing new came into the S Florida area.

I find it interesting that 64 GB white wifi models seemed to be out there all over the country yesterday, and on Wed the flavor of the day was black 32GB wifi. What will Target get allocated next?

i hope target gets something allocated into south florida at all. most of palm beach county has gotten squat. and we have gotten nothing today.

That's possible. Apple may know what I figured out on my own with the iPad 1. For marketing reasons they still offer the 16GB but probably want to discourage them to prevent disappointment backlash. I am already more than half full on a 64GB iPad after one vacation of transferring photos via a camera connection kit. With two built in cameras and video you have to wonder how fast one would eat up 16GB. I think there will be a lot of disappointed people with 16GB iPad 2s especially if they plan to take and store photos and videos.

i may have to think about buying the 32 GB ATT model if the wait gets too long.
 
So I tried on Thursday they had 5 but I was number 6...and yesterday there was no stock when I got up at 6AM (target is 5 minutes away)

I work M-F so no way in hell I was getting up early today on one of my two days off...

What are the odds they get a shipment and have them in Monday morning? Or are late Sunday shipments not normal, technically it'd be Monday at like 2 am or whatever.
 
That trick is for target.

I did that at target and it said in stock room. They swore they didn't have any even after telling them that. They did not seem like they wanted to help me.

Shoot, I meant to say target, not walmart. Anyway, my target's price checkers don't have the keypads.
 
First I want to thank the poster who provided us with the Codes used in Target stores as I was finally able to track down an "Available" store and snag an iPad 2.

I had been checking every WiFi color, every capacity at every Target from Cheyenne, WY to Colorado Springs, CO and yesterday, on my birthday no less, the Target in Superior, CO showed available on 64gb WiFi Whites. This was actually my last choice of all the WiFi devices but I thought I should treat myself to a birthday gift and snag it while I could. I got there around 9:00am and went right to the iPad display case and sure enough there were 2 White 64GB WiFi in there. As it happens there was an Electronics employee kneeling down using his scanner to work on whatever was located next to the iPad case and he asked if I needed anything. I replied "Are these what I think they are?" He laughed and confirmed they were 64GB White iPad 2's. The only 2 they had received in as many days. As I was checking out, there was another gentleman behind me and he said that he was going to buy the last remaining iPad for his wife's birthday. He seemed a little out of breath like he knew about the limited inventory this store had just gotten in (maybe a reader of this forum). The employee said I was lucky and got there at the right time. He said each of the last 5 days he has fielded almost nonstop calls asking about iPad 2 inventory but that day (so far) he had received none. I also mentioned to him how I know, telling him about the codes we have been searching through online and he told me that was a really good way of checking a lot of stores with little effort. He seemed impressed. Nice guy.

And for the record, this is my first Apple product. I wanted to see what all of the fuss was about. Now I'm having trouble putting the thing down.

Thanks again for this thread, it made a good birthday for me!
 
I just had the absolute best luck guys. I called the Commack South Target 40 minutes ago(I live 15 minutes away) just on the off chance they might have one in stock. The guy told me that he had just gotten 4 white 16gb wifi only in(the model I wanted in the first place) and that while he couldn't hold them for me nobody knew they were there and he wasn't going to advertise it. I jumped in the car and drove like a bat out of hell and then got there and jogged towards the entrance. A lunatic in a minivan sped into a parking spot and ran out in front of me. We both raced over to electronics and he tried to find someone to ask about ipads. I saw one in the glass and camped by it. Luckily for him the one in the glass had been there. He ended up buying 2 from the back and I got the last one in the store. This was all about 15 minutes after me making a hail mary phone call. I'm ecstatic right now. Now I just have to hope my Verizon B&H iPad order isn't filled before I can cancel. I wish all of you guys the same good fortune that I have had today and hope you enjoy your ipads when you get them. I'm off to play with mine.:D
 
And for the record, this is my first Apple product. I wanted to see what all of the fuss was about. Now I'm having trouble putting the thing down.

Thanks again for this thread, it made a good birthday for me!

congratulations, and get ready to spend more money! The iPhone 3G was my gateway drug. After spending so much time in apple stores, I now have 2 macs (it took a few years for me to come around), and I'm thinking about getting an apple TV today, so I can use the AirPlay features of the new iPad 2. :)
 
Thanks for the Target inventory link.

Checked ~ 7 am this morning and my local Target showed "available" the 32 gb black wifi. Got there when store opened and yep, there were 2 avail, both black 32 gb wifi. I picked one up and another guy standing in line bought the other. GL to those still seeking the elusive iPad 2.

Also, the inventory status went from available to out of stock in ~ 30 minutes.
 
How did you know for sure there was one at Poway? Been looking for a 64 gb black wifi myself but have that pesky job thing that ties me up until 6-7 pm every day

To be honest since I never drove there and double checked I cannot know for sure. I can tell you by the next day it showed out of stock. Based on my experience at Grossmont though it is worth getting into your car and driving there to check it out.
 
congratulations, and get ready to spend more money! The iPhone 3G was my gateway drug. After spending so much time in apple stores, I now have 2 macs (it took a few years for me to come around), and I'm thinking about getting an apple TV today, so I can use the AirPlay features of the new iPad 2. :)

This is no joke! This is my first iPad and I've already bought an Apple TV to facilitate AirPlay. For the record it works flawlessly. You can't disregard the money you spend on apps either. A Mac is firmly in my future.
 
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