Target Returns iPhone SE Stock Ahead of Apple's Rumored March Event

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  1. Gudi macrumors 68020

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    Nope. The iPhone SE uses the old A9 chip and 12MP camera from the iPhone 6s. Battery life is longer, because the battery design is even older than the processor. Not a single component was specifically developed for the SE. It's a repackaging of existing technologies from older iPhones to make it cheap.
     
  2. nt5672 macrumors 6502a

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    Thank god. If they updated it they would make it thinner, with shorter battery life, less weight, fewer ports, and Apple only ports. Then they would not understand why people did not see the difference between the SE and the 7 (or 8). This is the impact of Ive. Make all of the products the same, thin multicolor, fashion accessories that get replaced every 2 years and fill the dumps.
     
  3. Porco macrumors 68020

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    Cheap and awesome. Long live the SE.
     
  4. nt5672 macrumors 6502a

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    If you were, you would never use a wireless headset today. Will they improve tomorrow, who knows, but today they are only good for people that use music as background noise while they do other things.
     
  5. TallManNY macrumors 68040

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    You are probably right. I had forgotten that SE is pretty close to just being a 6S internals. I was thinking it was a 6 internals.
     
  6. Thunderhawks macrumors 68040

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    Totally agreed.

    The plantronics I just got are already not holding their charge, proving my point that wires are better.
    I'd rather deal with the inconvenicne of wires than the inconvenience of charging.

    Best charging product so far Eneloops for my rack pads.
     
  7. TallManNY macrumors 68040

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    And flat sides that provide a good grip. I haven't taken my 6S out of its case yet because it seems slippery when I hold it without a case. If I buy a $1,000+ iPhone in the Fall, guess what, it will be in a darn case!

    Meanwhile, my Android and Blackberry phones go naked because they are cheaper and they have plastic or carbon fiber backs that provide some cushion. If I used an SE I would use it without a case and the phone would be even more "pocketable".

    Hmmm, maybe I skip the 8, hold on to my 6S until Spring 2018 and buy a new SE then.
     
  8. Relentless Power macrumors G3

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    It's still a great iPhone and will be for quite some time. I think Apple will refresh it in 2018. I thought it was a brilliant idea that they re-introduced a 4 inch iPhone, when most cell phone manufacturers have moved Away from this.
     
  9. Christoffee macrumors regular

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    Would love a MacBook SE.

    Old form factor, ports, modern tech, fat battery.
     
  10. Wahlstrm macrumors 6502a

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    If the 2016´s 76W battery = 10h then the old 2015´s 99,5W battery would be ≈13h instead.
    ..Or maybe a full day of actual work. :)
     
  11. ignatius345 macrumors 6502

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    Same. I'm still using a nice leather case I bought for my 5S. It's nice when you're not forced to throw away your accessories to upgrade your phone.
     
  12. Mac 128 macrumors 601

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    Those flat sides make it easy to stand up for taking timed photos, or watching videos. I use my SE without a case specifically because it has a slim profile in my pocket, and slips in and out easily. However, I don't tend to drop my phones much.
     
  13. Bart Kela macrumors 6502

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    Indeed, much of the iPhone SE's internals are the same as the 6S: same A9 SoC, same rear camera.

    The main differences: the front-facing FaceTime camera on the iPhone SE is 1.2MP, whereas the 6S has 5MP part. There is no Touch 3D nor barometer/altimeter on the iPhone SE. iPhone SE's Touch ID sensor is first generation, so a little slower. It also lacks LTE Advanced, so a little less capable for cellular data, but not by much.

    The iPhone SE is a great package for a reasonable price and far more capable than the higher-priced iPhone 5S that it basically replaced.

    I doubt if Apple will update the internals, probably just a storage bump if they do anything.
     
  14. LovingTeddy macrumors 6502a

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    The only thing came from 6S is the SOC and Camera. Battery, screen, front facing camera, casing are bsacially reused from 5S, while the wireless chips are from 6. SE is basically mixed bag of phone from 5S, 6, 6S.

    This is only reason Apple charge 399.
     
  15. DrumApple macrumors 6502

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    Would like internal spec bumps, 2nd gen touch ID, a darker gray or black color. Couldn't care less about 3d touch, totally useless feature for me.
     
  16. nutriousmitten macrumors member

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    I didn't figure stores sent back stock of Apple devices, and instead discounted and waited to sell them. There are a couple Walmart stores nearby that still have 64 GB IPad Air 2's and 16 Gb Mini 4's, which were no longer sold 6 months ago by Apple.

    To that end, I assume Walmart then determines the price of those discontinued models? Both of the above were just $50 less then what they retailed at, and double the storage for $50 more didn't make them worth it, though I assume that price gets cheaper the longer it stays unpurchased.

    I assume phones, which at Target probably have to be tied to a carrier in store and can't be sold outright, aren't going to be flying out the door.
     
  17. neoelectronaut macrumors 68030

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    Well damn, I was just about to buy an iPhone SE to replace my iPhone 5C from 2013. I'm glad I waited it out now.
     
  18. Commentist macrumors newbie

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    I've had some. They still work if the battery is flat, just without noise cancellation. Likewise with Phiips Bluetooth headphones (separate cable, so can still be used with a flat battery). This is essential if you travel a lot and want to listen to music.
     
  19. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    When it was released it had the specs to match the most recent (6 month previous iPhone), so it had pretty much the best specs (in terms of RAM, GPU and CPU) possible at the time, same as the camera technology.

    We get you hate it, but I've found the SE to be the best iPhone ever. Hopefully it gets a RAM/CPU spec next year.
     
  20. geta macrumors 6502a

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    They'll make the best phone even better with 32\128GB storage update!
     
  21. manu chao macrumors 601

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    There is the question how you define what is an 'SE'. If you define it as the iPhone 5/5s shell (possibly including front assembly, aka display, touch sensors, home button, Facetime camera) with updated components, than I think it is clear that Apple will not be selling it forever. I'd even say there is no chance they still sell the same shell in five years from now (that would be ten years of the same shell). They might squeeze in one more update and then sell that model for at most another two years. But I'd say it is at least as likely that the SE won't get another update (besides very simple things like more storage).

    However, if you define the SE as a 4" phone (or more generally a smaller phone) with somewhat older specs (even releasing it half a year after their flagship phone means that for half of the year it will have older generation innards) and lower price, then I think we there is a decent chance of getting updates to that line.
     
  22. [AUT] Thomas macrumors member

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    Considering the launch of the SE, it came with the latest hardware. 6S-Hardware to be precise. Let's also consider the device size and reduced features -especially lower resolution, the SoC will deliver better user experience than on the 6S, putting it just behind the iPhone 7, probably even ahead of it in games due to a.m. resolution. So, even now, one year after launch, I wouldn't call the SE old or outdated.
     
  23. Katert macrumors newbie

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    I really hope they upgrade some of the SE's specs, but just a 128GB option would be fine for me also. I got the 7 Plus when it came out, mainly for the camera and waterproofing, but I recently picked up my old iPhone 5 and it feels so good to be able to actually handle a phone with one hand. I came to the conclusion that, for me, the Plus-model is too big to carry around, and as soon as Apple releases an upgraded SE this year, I will definitely sell my 7 Plus to get it in exchange. Also, having a headphone-jack again is a big plus (after all).
     
  24. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    Got Sony. Always connected via cable. Good batteries last about 80 hours. With batteries the sound is quite decent, without batteries you can listen, but the sound isn't very good at all. Still better than no sound :)
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    I always get a transparent gel case for my phone. Just £1.99, protects quite well if the phone falls on the side or the back, and because there is an edge around the sides it also protects most of the time if the phone falls flat on its face on a hard surface. And it's almost invisible and adds very little to the size.
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    There was an article saying that the iPhone 6 already had significant improvements in that area. Just not enough to give it any official rating, but enough to decrease the number of unlucky customers. Even more because they didn't tell anyone, so customers kept treating their phones carefully. I wouldn't be surprised if the next iPhone 5 is improved in that regard, but not to the point where it would be officially advertised.
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    I'd say find out what the _real_ price of the 5SE is (will you have to stay longer in your contract for example). If $179 is the real price, that's only a bit more than replacing a cracked screen. Or just assume that there will be a better 5SE very soon, for $399. So you'll pay $220 extra for having the new SE vs. the old SE. If you buy now, you still have a better phone than your 5s, with a new screen and a new battery.
     
  25. S14Drvr macrumors member

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    The SE is a frankenstein phone and its great. It offers a mix of current and older tech which appeals to a lot of people and keeps them in the apple echo system. I love the SE because I don't consider it a lower end phone although it is. The 5C was a low end phone. The idea with the SE is that keeping it 50/50 new, old. This keeps the price down while giving some current tech
     

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