Agreed. Hey Taylor answer me this.. How's the PAID SUB thing going over at TIDAL..
Wait... Is that CRICKETTS I hear?
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Taylor Swift Criticizes Apple Music's Free Trial in Open Letter
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Agreed. Hey Taylor answer me this.. How's the PAID SUB thing going over at TIDAL..
Wait... Is that CRICKETTS I hear?
*moot
Apple are trying to get a cut of a growing industry. They want the money, that's all.
The difference is if they are into streaming which most currently aren't, she would get payment she wouldn't get otherwise after the trail. There will be lots of plays that she may have made more money on because of her fan base. That just means they will download it from iTunes it will become a part of their streamed playlist anyway and if they play her song enough for her to get triple the amount she won't. She will also miss on the people who are not really fans but like her enough to be in their playlist. After the 3 months these people will be much easier to convert because their credit card info is already attached to the account.
And why should the artists bear Apple's customer acquisition cost...which is what the free trial is.
Some of you people are pathetic. How would you guys like it if big corporation lends your property out for 3 months with no compensation? What sucks even more is that if this was any other company I can bet the comments would have a different tune.
At least Taylor Swift has the balls to stand up against big corporation. Apple should be paying these artists during the free trial.
The Apple logo has blinded common sense.
At least Taylor Swift has the balls to stand up against big corporation. Apple should be paying these artists during the free trial.
The Apple logo has blinded common sense.
Wow... so, you are actually defending Apple's behavior as a greedy douchebag corporation that's cheating and extorting artists and musicians... by quoting a line form The Godfather???
That's rich... but incredibly appropriate!
Good job! I wonder why hasn't Apple hired you to do it's PR work!
Admit it dude, you lost this one.
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Interesting thought. Apple Music didn't exist before this month, so they couldn't have been making money off it anyway. They're just worried that these 3 months free will rob them of potential revenue they MIGHT have earned if someone had decided to buy their albums instead of streaming it as part of a free trial.
Frankly, this service will do more good than harm, because now people will actually check out artists they never would've bothered with before. If you have to pay £10 for an album you know you'll like, then you'll do it. If someone asks you to pay £10 for an album from a band you've never heard before, it aint gonna happen.
Streaming for £10 a month offers a way for someone to sample an unknown album fully before deciding if they like the artist that created it. If they do, they'll keep listening now and in the future, if they don't, then they've not wasted money on something they'll never listen to again, and if the labels & artists have a problem with that, its them that needs to get over their selfish attitude.
The industry needs to start viewing this in a positive way. This is 3 months of POSSIBLE lost revenue, in exchange for a long term guaranteed revenue from Apple for hosting their music in the first place.
Talented or otherwise, however anyone tries to dress it up or dress it down, whether or not she wrote the lyrics or the music, in the eyes of the law and her contract, Taylor Swift is the principle copyright owner of the material.
This is redicilous.
Whine and complain about a 3 month trial?
I have paid for Spotify in several years now and going to shift to Apple Music, why, I don´t know but it feels right.
But this Swift madonna diva **** makes me wonder what their drive is to push their ****?
Reach out to as big audience as possible, make a difference or just collect while you can?
Haven't heard of Swift before until now, who cares of her issues around this. I don´t.
I want to pay for the music I stream to my gadgets and I´m pleased to do so, feels good.
Music industry is driven by greed...learn your lesson, otherwise the community will kick your butt.
English ain´t my native, but at least I try.
Whine and complain about a 3 month trial?
I have paid for Spotify in several years now and going to shift to Apple Music, why, I don´t know but it feels right.
But this Swift madonna diva **** makes me wonder what their drive is to push their ****?
Reach out to as big audience as possible, make a difference or just collect while you can?
Haven't heard of Swift before until now, who cares of her issues around this. I don´t.
I want to pay for the music I stream to my gadgets and I´m pleased to do so, feels good.
Music industry is driven by greed...learn your lesson, otherwise the community will kick your butt.
English ain´t my native, but at least I try.
Wow... so, you are defending Apple's behavior as a greedy douchebag corporation that's cheating and extorting artists and musicians... by quoting a line form The Godfather???
That's rich... but incredibly appropriate!
Good job! I wonder why hasn't Apple hired you to do it's PR work!
Admit it dude, you lost this one.
The Godfather? Actually no, but thanks for reminding me of that.
How did I lose? This isn't a battle, unlike you make it out to be. I'm literally laughing at you thinking it is.
Apple aren't going to change their policies. If you think they will you have a long time to wait. It's as simple as that.
Is it wrong? Perhaps, but pirating music is worse anyway.
One I'd like to point out is that Apple asks for a 3 month no fee time period and in those three months let's say Apple spends $200 million to market the fee based service and after 3 months who wins? THE ARTIST.
I mean they and their labels get over 70 frickin percent of the take and spend nothing and they get everything including free promotion and that will explode paid streaming for everybody not just Apple.
Indie artists aren't losing a dime. Why? Because it's just free airtime. In other words there is no way to quantify any losses because the name of the game here is EXPOSURE.
And for those of you that feel so sorry for recording artists just take a look at the price of a concert ticket. U2 just played L.A. And the average price per ticket.... $300 face value.
Don't bite the hand that feeds this industry today. iTunes and the iPod helped some of these guys put a dime in their pocket when piracy was at its peak (then)
I mean they and their labels get over 70 frickin percent of the take and spend nothing and they get everything including free promotion and that will explode paid streaming for everybody not just Apple.
Indie artists aren't losing a dime. Why? Because it's just free airtime. In other words there is no way to quantify any losses because the name of the game here is EXPOSURE.
And for those of you that feel so sorry for recording artists just take a look at the price of a concert ticket. U2 just played L.A. And the average price per ticket.... $300 face value.
Don't bite the hand that feeds this industry today. iTunes and the iPod helped some of these guys put a dime in their pocket when piracy was at its peak (then)
But you can use lot of things for free as part of a free trial, including Final Cut Pro, albeit for a month.
Giving something away free may very well devalue something.
But giving a free trial of something more than likely adds value, if the number of people going on to buy the product or service as a result of having the free trial is > than the number of people going on to buy the product or service had there not been a free trial.
And seeing as free trials are such a common marketing ploy, the former almost always is > the later.
Try to read between the lines. I was making a point. I never said Taylor Swifts latest album isn't any good. I just said being capable of co-writing songs does not mean you're a talented artist anymore than high sales the first week means the album is any good.
If you wanna go on record showing such naivety I can't stop that but if you think high sales the first week equates to a great album then you are showing naivety. As I said tween girls will buy anything since they already like artist. Same as tween girls loading up Taylor's Twitter page with followers. She's popular. Popular will grant an artist high record sales whether or not their stuff is good or crap. The industry has already gone downhill terms of good quality music anyway.
ok what about an itunes 3 months card
Respect has to be earned? So you don't respect people by default unless they earn your respect first, and why they should do that? who are you?
Cause if you don't respect people you are gonna end with a punch on your face one of these days...just saying.
Perhaps you are confused, you meant: admiration not respect.
If you introduce a new revenue stream that no one had access to before, does Apple's free trial period actually hurt anyone? It's sort of hard to imagine how a new revenue stream will cost any artist, big or small, any amount of real money in the near term. That said, if Apple can convert some ad supported Radio listeners into paid subscriptions, that could be a potential boon for artists. I think Swift got this one wrong, though I'm sure it will give her some populist appeal. So, while I don't think her point is valid, intended or not, it may give her a boost from other artists/fans.
That's a bad analogy. Working for free for three months is not the same as letting people listen to something you have already recorded for free.
And what's with the repeated assumption that artists will see all of their revenue drop to zero anyway. Do artists not sell anything on iTunes, or sell any CDs, or get any revenue from paid streaming services, because there re free streaming options?
As far as I'm aware, yes they do.
Baloney. Apple isn't reinventing the wheel. And Apple Music isn't offering anything anybody has already been doing. Nothing is stopping Spotify or any other service to market it to a wider audience. Apple sees opportunity to grow streaming into a mainstream business. So sad so sorry that Sirius radio, Spotify, Rdio, Pandora, Tidal, or anyone else only have 1/100th of the total available market on PAID SUBSCRIPTION services. Apple embracing Paid streaming is a little late to the party but when it gets there it will blow up the size and scale of the business for betterment of ALL these other guys.