I forget to mention that, the price does make it cheap, not mention, you can trade in a qualifying older phone and get it cheaper. I don't see Apple upgrading it every year either, which means, it will get cheaper until they refresh it again in a few years.
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Teardown Video Compares New iPhone SE to iPhone 8
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By the way for those who haven't tried it, the video has really good subtitles in English, good enough that I suspect someone translated it and that it's not machine translation.
I was amazed at how interchangeable the parts are. No wonder they can sell it for so cheap; all the tooling was already done. I bet this phone still has a crazy good profit margin even at $399!
I was amazed at how interchangeable the parts are. No wonder they can sell it for so cheap; all the tooling was already done. I bet this phone still has a crazy good profit margin even at $399!
The original SE was a cost reduced 5s. What’s your point?
Yep, the iPhone SE takes pretty much identical photos to the iPhone 11 in decent light, clearly better than the XR.
What Apple did was really smart. They have tons of iPhone 8 parts and are probably getting even more through recycling. So they take the parts, swap out the camera, the CPU and modems, and turn it for a profit. Super environment friendly. And super super cheap to manufacture.
FWIW, I think it’s not that they have leftover stock or parts (warehouses full of parts for more than a few days worth of production is inefficient and costly), but rather that they have all the tooling - and their supply chain has all the tooling - to produce those exact parts at high volume and to extremely precise tolerances. And all that tooling is long since paid for. And they’ve got the whole assembly and QA process thoroughly debugged. So they just have to keep feeding in raw materials at one end to get perfect, low cost chassis out the other end.
They replaced the main chip on the circuit board with the newest one, and the camera with the one from the XR, oh, and maybe asked for the screen to be made without the 3D Touch layer, but the rest of it is the well tested iPhone 8.
If the price could be explained by “leftover parts” - the math for that only works if they’ve got several years worth of these leftover parts sitting around - if the price was low because they had, say, a month’s worth of leftover parts, then what happens after a month, does the iPhone SE price go up? No, Tim Cook made his name by being able to control the supply chain the way a conductor controls an orchestra - he never would have let them end up with years worth of extra parts in the first place.
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On the one hand, good things come to those who wait. On the other hand, 5g would have been a nice bonus.
For cost reasons they probably took out the extra layer and chips.. the shape of the phone is identical though
No offence but that guy always spits the most obvious s**** likes hes saying summit out this world all hes posts are useless
I’m really curious if it ships with 13.4 or 13.4.1. Not much longer now until we have the answer.
Did someone say my name? (Upgrading from 6s) 🤣😂😎
People ask me for tech advice at work I think this is such a great phone for the masses. It’s the phone I’d recommend to my mom, my cousin’s wife. Essential people who just want a phone that works with a good camera.
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No, they couldn’t have. The only reason this phone is priced at the low SE price is precisely because they re-used almost the entire design that they had perfected over years. Redesigning a component as influential on the rest of the entire phone as the front assembly would mean new R&D, factory retooling and retraining and lower yields, resulting in an iPhone priced like the iPhone 8, not like the iPhone SE.
When is Apple going to figure out how to do Touch ID under the screen?
They are long overdue when many others are doing it, albeit some in clunky ways, but some others are clever.
I just can't believe Apple cannot figure this out. Some people simply don't want to have to look at their phone to unlock it in a car, and before I get yelled at, I don't mean to text and drive. I know how bad that is, but Touch ID allows you to touch your iPhone without even taking your eyes off the road, for instance if someone else wants to use it in the car or answer your phone or if you have wireless phone capabilities in your car. With Touch ID, I can simply touch the iPhone blindly without taking my eyes off the road and someone else in the car can dial the # or hit the contact to call.
FACE ID is downright dangerous for that and illegal in most states. In my state, I know anyone caught holding a phone to their face in any way is getting pulled over and ticketed.
They are long overdue when many others are doing it, albeit some in clunky ways, but some others are clever.
I just can't believe Apple cannot figure this out. Some people simply don't want to have to look at their phone to unlock it in a car, and before I get yelled at, I don't mean to text and drive. I know how bad that is, but Touch ID allows you to touch your iPhone without even taking your eyes off the road, for instance if someone else wants to use it in the car or answer your phone or if you have wireless phone capabilities in your car. With Touch ID, I can simply touch the iPhone blindly without taking my eyes off the road and someone else in the car can dial the # or hit the contact to call.
FACE ID is downright dangerous for that and illegal in most states. In my state, I know anyone caught holding a phone to their face in any way is getting pulled over and ticketed.
it seems like a winner. Battery life is kinda disappointing though. The SE is advertised as similar battery life to the 8, which was advertised as similar to the 7. My 7 was fine when I first got it, but battery life was getting bad towards the end of 2018, so I took advantage of Apple's reduced price battery replacement. Now it's getting bad again, 17 months later.
they wanted to make a cheap phone every change adds cost.
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they know how to but you need to accept they’ve taken a different route.
Apple have already moved beyond fingerprint sensors and onto Face ID. Touch ID will be gone from iPhones after this iPhone SE as the next SE will be based on a current Face ID model.
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That’s not a $399 iPhone. The SE is a $399 iPhone.
Couldnt be further from a 6s if it tried.
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