Your correct. It’s bought online now. I don’t know anyone who camps out. That era is over. More or less.
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Teen iPhone Ownership Continues to Soar
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Apple isn’t a monopoly and the fee isnt illegal at this point in time. So it could continue.
Yep, but first in revenue.
Spotify?
That doesn’t mean Apple services aren’t best in class. One thing has nothing to do with another.
A quick Google search would show that is factually wrong. But clearly you want to criticize Apple so go for it lmao
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I never had an Android so can't speak to its pros or cons. I suspect the "it just works" and privacy typically championed in iPhone marketing, plus the group-think sense of inclusion and social status that comes from owning the "better" hardware probably drives the teenage decision making process toward iPhones.
I think Android is likely a great device for those who have less disposable income or hate being in a "walled garden"
I have had Android friends who switched to iPhone and loved their android, but the fact that the handset manufacturer (i.e. Samsung) only employed the latest Android goodness into new phones effectively made their aging phones "obsolete" from an OS support perspective. Apple's support of many past generations of iPhones was brilliant in telegraphing the understanding that an iPhone will be there for a long time (especially important now with all the tarrif nonsense).
Getting the iPhones into the hands of teenagers will (ideally for Apple) maintain a dedicated consumer base, much like feeding happy meals to children and triggering that Dopamine rush when you smell those fries as an adult, a customer for life...
I think Android is likely a great device for those who have less disposable income or hate being in a "walled garden"
I have had Android friends who switched to iPhone and loved their android, but the fact that the handset manufacturer (i.e. Samsung) only employed the latest Android goodness into new phones effectively made their aging phones "obsolete" from an OS support perspective. Apple's support of many past generations of iPhones was brilliant in telegraphing the understanding that an iPhone will be there for a long time (especially important now with all the tarrif nonsense).
Getting the iPhones into the hands of teenagers will (ideally for Apple) maintain a dedicated consumer base, much like feeding happy meals to children and triggering that Dopamine rush when you smell those fries as an adult, a customer for life...
This is astute. My grandkids for example have iPads. They could give a whit about AI, headphone jack, and all the BS that MR posters heaps on Apple. They will have iPhones shortly.
And I’ve seen it with other families. Other moms and dads get their kids iPads, priming the generation of kids to be an Apple generation.
The genius of the $279 iPad and an iPad cover.
Doesn’t work that way. But the fee for services still isnt illegal and could continue. Google needs this more than ever.
I believe they choose Netflix due to peer pressure and Netflix’s agressive marketing and agenda: they make thousands of pointless movies with 40% of movies consisting of cringe s*x scenes. Apple has a different approach and they do not allow it in their shows, only mentions but not full blown ****hub experience like on Netflix.
As for Spotify yeah definitely because of free tier but probably also because of simple design aesthetics and lots of user-created playlists. I believe the winner in free tier would be Soundcloud but every news article fails to mention it as a competitor
Well it is sorta of European etiquette thing. Like, when you try to send iMessage to someone first thing they would think “OMG why tf are you sending me those clunky SMS?”. Everyone from Netherlands to Germany and France uses WhatsApp – businesses, people, schools etc.
Eastern Europe meanwhile is a whole different thing. They are all using Telegram. Probably unsafe but they love it because they also subscribe to their favorite news channels there
The really surprising thing is that depending on where you get your count of teens in the US, by this stat, teens own between half and 100% of the entire US run of Apple Vision Pro.
Seems suspect to me.
Has anyone in here may be considered that Apple services aren’t bad, they just excel in different places than other services?
Apple Music versus Spotify for example, I think there’s absolutely no denying that Spotify has significantly better social features, discovery features and curated playlists.
But when it comes to managing your own media that you’ve purchased or added, it’s a joke. When it comes to lossless audio or anything above MP3 quality, it’s a joke. When it comes to surround sound content, it’s a joke. When it comes to integration between devices, it’s a joke.
And the same is true about pretty much every one of their services, there are parts that are good and bad just like everyone else.
Personally, as someone who values having Dolby Atmos mixes, my own personal media that I have acquired over the years, and an actual music library, not just a collection of playlist, but a real library, Apple Music cannot be beat.
And I’ve used both.
Apple Music versus Spotify for example, I think there’s absolutely no denying that Spotify has significantly better social features, discovery features and curated playlists.
But when it comes to managing your own media that you’ve purchased or added, it’s a joke. When it comes to lossless audio or anything above MP3 quality, it’s a joke. When it comes to surround sound content, it’s a joke. When it comes to integration between devices, it’s a joke.
And the same is true about pretty much every one of their services, there are parts that are good and bad just like everyone else.
Personally, as someone who values having Dolby Atmos mixes, my own personal media that I have acquired over the years, and an actual music library, not just a collection of playlist, but a real library, Apple Music cannot be beat.
And I’ve used both.
Do you think “peer pressure” only explain Netflix usage? I have a different theory.
The article only mentions “paid” subscriptions with respect to Spotify and Apple Music. With video services it simply refers to “usage.” Teens are using whatever video services the parent(s) pay for. They just have additional “profiles” for the teens in each service. Teens are not using AppleTV+ simply because parents think AppleTV+ blows chunks and are not subscribed.
Yeah, the idea that Apple is significantly more expensive than their competitors has always been a bit over exaggerated, but never more so than today.
When you can get a brand new iPad for under $300, the Apple Watch SE is literally on sale right now for $150 and you can easily find an M1 MacBook Air or even an M2 MacBook Air in the $500-$600 price range, it’s a bit hyperbolic to say anything like that.
At this point, the only actual android phones tablets and computers that are significantly cheaper than apples, are the ones that are obviously that cheap because they are terrible products.
Thinking of the awful Amazon basics, Walmart tablets etc, those are absolutely cheaper than what apples offering, but when you buy a $90 tablet you get what you’re paying for.
Ads on the home screen and such that you literally have to perform hackery to get rid of.
Your actual high-quality stuff, your galaxy S25U and your Galaxy Tab S9s etc, are basically the exact same price as apples, give or take maybe $100.
Same goes for pretty much every other product category as well, even Google‘s new TV streamer is *only $29 cheeper** than an Apple TV.
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Apple is not the only one targeting young people. Nintendo, Sony and MS are the leaders in living room gaming. Windows still the leader in desktop / laptop gaming. Apple services like Arcade, Music and TV+ still behind with young people compared to the competition. MS Office and Google Workplace are far more popular in schools and colleges than Apple apps. From what I have seen, most Apple young customers have their devices to use non-Apple apps and services.
What's funny is that apps like Game Pigeon are what's driving iPhone. You can't play it with Android users at all, and kids really do play against each other with it.
And the green bubbles, well, bleah.
And the green bubbles, well, bleah.
Looks like teens are not yet jaded like many participants of this board.
I have a dirt cheap Android phone with Lively. It is terrible as a smartphone but just fine as a telephone.
I leave the house with it in my pocket, turned off. If I just need to make a phone call, I'm prepared.
That said, my eyesight isn't smartphone friendly, and at home, I am a glued to technology person.
Either tablet or computer. 67 years old.
Better entertainment most of the time than what my generation called the boob-tube.
As for Spotify, the ads are too much. I don't pay, I just don't use it anymore.
My iPad is on its last leg and I probably won't get a new one.
The latest one is begging me to reconsider.
What I really want is Apple TV with iPad apps and I will pay the iPad price.
I don't like the concept of beaming an iPad to a TV. That's what ATV should be for.
Apple makes more money on this teen iPhone craze but they should not necessarily be pleased.
Everyone is wanting a device that goes everywhere.
When I was a teen, that was called a transistor radio.
Tim Cook is only 3 years younger than myself. He needs to think back.
I leave the house with it in my pocket, turned off. If I just need to make a phone call, I'm prepared.
That said, my eyesight isn't smartphone friendly, and at home, I am a glued to technology person.
Either tablet or computer. 67 years old.
Better entertainment most of the time than what my generation called the boob-tube.
As for Spotify, the ads are too much. I don't pay, I just don't use it anymore.
My iPad is on its last leg and I probably won't get a new one.
The latest one is begging me to reconsider.
What I really want is Apple TV with iPad apps and I will pay the iPad price.
I don't like the concept of beaming an iPad to a TV. That's what ATV should be for.
Apple makes more money on this teen iPhone craze but they should not necessarily be pleased.
Everyone is wanting a device that goes everywhere.
When I was a teen, that was called a transistor radio.
Tim Cook is only 3 years younger than myself. He needs to think back.
I think everyone uses the word “innovative” as some buzzword but do they really know what it means when it comes to their phone? How is your Google pixel innovative, compared to the iPhone?
I think it’s silly to be upset about the iPhone 17 when it’s not even announced yet. All we have is rumor so we only know what the rumors are. They could be completely wrong.
Apple doesn’t care. They want one to buy the hardware. My grandkids will get iPhones and their next computer will be a Mac. Others may get windows or chrome o/s.
Apple says “just get the hardware in their hands”.
because android , like windows, is an abomination UX that is spyware. And no business is brave enough to create an alternative.
I agree that Apple has better sound quality, but a lot of people won't notice it, considering they use bluetooth earbuds.
Regarding integration, although AirPlay 2 is very popular, the same can be said of Spotify Connect. One advantage of Spotify Connect is that it streams music directly from Spotify's servers. This means your phone's battery isn't drained by the streaming process.
I think Apple cares and still have a lot of work to do. Imagine your grandkids getting an iPhone and an iMac. What if they want to play games? They might prefer hardware, software, and services from Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony, which are better than what Apple offers. When they're at school, they'll likely use MS Office or Google Workspace, since Apple's apps and services are limited for educational environments. And when their friends share Spotify playlists or watch series and movies on Disney+, they'll probably use those services too.