LOL. OK...that's a good reason to not get an EV. Sure, the M3 UI could use some work but to outright dismiss it over not having carplay is humerous.
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But when you bought the Tesla in February you did realize it did not have Carplay right? Also, does not have an AM radio.
They didn't say they wouldn't get an EV. They said that Tesla cars wouldn't be on their list of EV cars. And yes, choosing to pass on a product that doesn't have the features you want is a good reason not to buy it. It's called being an informed consumer.
As a Tesla owner, I'd love Carplay but it's not going to stop me from purchasing another one. That being said, it would factor in my decision if I went the ICE route.
To each his/her own though. Tesla's are not for everyone.
To each his/her own though. Tesla's are not for everyone.
My experience with Carplay is limited to three cars only for a few days, but I didn't like it. But all of them didn't have proper touch support. They could have done it better with full touch support, but I don't know...
I do think Tesla has got it a lot better. Their navigation, music, vehicle controls are fully integrated.
So I don't miss Carplay on my Tesla, I just want to get the Apple Music in the Tesla. I hate paying for both Tidal and Apple Music and have different profiles in each service.
I do think Tesla has got it a lot better. Their navigation, music, vehicle controls are fully integrated.
So I don't miss Carplay on my Tesla, I just want to get the Apple Music in the Tesla. I hate paying for both Tidal and Apple Music and have different profiles in each service.
I think if Tesla were hands down the only EV game in town you’re probably right, but there are other cars out there that easily rival it that do have car play, if it’s important to you and you’re spending the best part of 100k on a car you want it to tick as many boxes as possible, and only make compromises where you have to.
From my perspective the lack of CarPlay was just one of a number issues I have with Teslas, I find them aesthetically unattractive and their single screen in the middle for everything awkward when I’ve spent the last 10 years driving cars with huds.
It may also be that single screen design for everything that makes them not want to relinquish control, most other EVs have multiple screens so you can sacrifice one to CarPlay, Tesla have gone all in on this single screen and everything accessed through it and it probably wouldn’t mesh well with another system being overlayed on top
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It’s a double edged sword. Integration with iPhone would be nice and make things a little more convenient for iPhone users, but you’re right, Tesla is miles ahead of Apple in terms of UX, sophistication, and capabilities, especially where it matters most like maps and self-driving. And then there’s the CarPlay bugs that Tesla won’t have to deal with. There’s no benefit to Tesla’s long term strategy by supporting CarPlay or android auto.
In fact I would rather have Apple develop Apple Music for Tesla. I have no need for any other integration. Apple Maps is garbage compared to Tesla maps and that’s what 99% of users care about most.
I'm not unhappy overall with the Tesla UI, but I definitely wouldn't mind if Tesla provided that option. In the same vein, I wish Apple would provide the option for people to use other app stores/side-load apps. However, both companies seem to have remarkably similar approaches when it comes to vertical integration and wanting to control the whole end-user experience, so I won't hold my breath on either one budging any time soon. What *might* happen, though, is Tesla adding their own app store. That's something I could definitely see them doing, and that might even allow someone to write a third-party CarPlay/Android Auto app, which might end up being a better work-around.
I have an F150 with CarPlay and a Tesla. The F150 definitely needs it, I really don’t miss it on the Tesla though. Even on my Ford I only use it occasionally.
I think CarPlay exists because car companies either didn’t have built in internet or charged you a fortune for it, and their UI was an abomination. That’s changing and while
Teslas UI isn’t perfect and I would prefer to have Carplay than not, it certainly doesn’t play in a purchase decision. I want it mostly for pandora and other apps rather than for the UI.
I assume Tesla is being paid a fortune for Spotify exclusivity.
What exclusivity? Teslas have other music sources, Tidal and the default LiveOne streaming service. S and X have SiriusXM too.
In any case, now that Tesla isn't the only BEV available, I'd definitely consider CarPlay availability as a relatively important criteria. Not as important as Supercharger access or range but probably the next tier.
You think that people's choice of a $50k-$100k physical car, is superseded by their choice of $10/month digital streaming music?
Tesla thinks otherwise, and we know who's idea win out in the market place.
You may hold onto that idea. But it would be you, in a party of 3. Imagine the only thing holding Tesla back from +20% of unit sales is their not adding more native streaming services....
I use Apple Music in the car through bluetooth. Use dictation to tell the phone to play the right tunes. Can you steering controls to skip through tracks.
On top of that I have a music library connected to USB, which can be (1) searched through the Tesla media controls, or (2) browsed through with the big screen, or (3) with Tesla's own voice command... all 3 of which are lightyears ahead in usability compared to any car ive owned or driven
Why not just click the right steering wheel click-wheel to answer the call instead of tapping the screen button? Or press the camera icon on the display to turn the rear camera back on?
Have you tried rebooting lately? Not being a smart ass, just thinking it sounds like you might benefit from that.
You don’t get it do you. Almost every other car on the market doesn’t have this problem. All my AV equipment and playlists I have spent hours creating are on Amazon. Tesla is a software company worse than all of them. I can be listening to a song in the car walk into my house and continue listening. Read the other posts of people complaining on how Teslas can’t even remember where you left off on a podcast.
The best part is you pay for the locked in lesser experience that’s the insanity of it. My Amazon music is a family plan not something I could easily change in the first place.
I drive 40 minutes each way daily using CarPlay/Siri I easily respond to messages these are all things that Elon flat out said on Twitter get an Android like people will pick their phone, music, etc based on their car choice. I listen to my playlists daily I don’t need to pay for anything else.
You can keep thinking it’s not important or maybe you can look at the posts in this very discussion of others in full agreement with me.
Tesla really does a number on people and they call Apple people sheep.
Next car will be an Ioniq 5 or EV6 with all the bells and whistles and non pay to unlock features you think are so grand.
Not sure what you are ranting, and it's obvious you never use Tesla's system before putting it down. (Someone said something on internet and I read it, must be true). All the things you are describing can literally be done the same way how you are doing it now. Use Siri to reply message? You can do the same. Listen to Amazon music on the phone? Can do the same too. So exactly what are you missing?
So you like Ioniq5 / EV6 implementation. Have you even test drove one? You know it's not wireless right? So every time you get in the car you have to physically connect phone to the cable, press start button to turn on the car, wait for the car startup messages, then wait 10-15 seconds before CarPaly interface to show up. Then if you want to use Amazon Music, have to navigate to that icon first and hit play. Want to use Google Map or Apple Map? You need to pull out the phone again to look up POI because you can't do inputs on the screens for CarPlay. By the time you find POI you are looking for and ready to leave, the person who drives a Tesla is already gone for 5 minutes. So exactly how is this better?
Again, dont' knock it until you actually try out the implementations.
They already have the analytic numbers showing people don’t use the built in GPS compared to phones…they can be as delusional as they want but people are going to choose their phones first.
You don't get it do you. The automotive world doesn't revolve your not being able to listen to your favorite mix.
That's cool. But that represents nearly nobody's opinion.
Is this proud declaration supposed to be meaningful to other people?
He wants people to know his future decision to get one $50k car over another $50k hinged on not being able to get off Amazon Music due to the $5/month Family Plan savings.
Is this number you are privy to as an inside source, or disclosed publicly by the IR team, or something you just made up?
No matter you use android or apple, the big advantage is having a interface you are used to, rather than learning all over again some specific car manufacturers version. If you change car brands I guarantee they have their own proprietary system that you will need to study and learn all its faults and idiosyncratic rabbit holes. It really does make sense to have the same system you have on your phone in your car.
CarPlay isn’t sufficient to make me choose a product that’s inferior in every far more important way
I guess I assumed because Pandora is missing and the only other streaming app I noticed was one I never heard of. But yes Tidal is on there, and I ended up buying a Spotify account. I don't use any Apple services (like iCloud, Music, etc) so for me CarPlay is really only good to cover up my F150's horrible UI, stream Pandora, and to use Google Maps. Since the Tesla UI covers that, I'm good. The deciding factor for me was full self driving, but with my safety score stuck at 85 for 6 months I'm wondering if I will ever get it.