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Tesla CEO Elon Musk Takes Shots at Apple During Earnings Call
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I would put money on it that Ford sells more Electric F-150's in its first year than all Tesla models combined, don't underestimate the legacy manufactures. Musk also said vehicles could be made 100% with automation but quickly learned that maybe the legacy manufacures know a thing or two about making vehicles.
The irony is probably lost on Apple fans calling out Tesla fans as being a cult.
Oh yeah? Well…..we were a cult before they were, so it’s OUR label and they can’t use it!
Spot on. There are other cars coming out but until the charging network improves, it will put people off since it will be more difficult to charge the car for trips, etc.
The F-150 V2G and Tesla Powerwalls are two completely different products with different goals. The F-150 system is an emergency backup system. A Tesla Powerwall does that, but also day to day stores energy from solar (or other sources) so you can do things like avoiding using power from the grid at peak rate periods (late afternoon and early evenings).
The combination of solar and Powerwalls can really drop your day-to-day power bills. We went from near $400/mo in summer down to $25/mo.
I wouldn't put money on that at all. There are still parts shortages for vehicles, not to mention the Mach-E is backordered and they are still not selling that many of them.
Ford reports Mustang Mach-E sales increase for June 2021
In its monthly sales report, Ford says that its all-electric Mustang Mach-E saw a 27% increase in sales for June compared to May.
electrek.co
The F-150 will be popular but Ford is going to still have issues producing them.
I think Ford will easily sell every F-150 Lightning they can make. But I am not sure if that will come at the expense of Tesla and other EV makers, or more at the expense of ICE vehicle sales.
As someone who works at a dealership, YES they will have production issues, but only until the US starts making their chips here and not outsourcing them to other places. It’ll take a while, but with enough incentive, anything is possible.I wouldn't put money on that at all. There are still parts shortages for vehicles, not to mention the Mach-E is backordered and they are still not selling that many of them.
Ford reports Mustang Mach-E sales increase for June 2021
In its monthly sales report, Ford says that its all-electric Mustang Mach-E saw a 27% increase in sales for June compared to May.
The F-150 will be popular but Ford is going to still have issues producing them.
"Chips" are not the only issue. Supply chain issues due to labor shortages are starting to hit more and more.
The difference seems to be that Apple cult members are customers, whereas Tesla cult members are investors.
great, did you buy ford stock then?
the biggest problem with producing EV currently is battery manufacturing, that is the chokehold even tesla is facing, the mustang Mach-e is no match in any area against the the model y and legacy auto like ford just start realizing how much they have to catch up to tesla. sure ford can stamp out f150 EV just like their ICE counterpart, but these f150 would be sitting empty on a lot with no battery in them. tesla has got the battery figured out and its ramping up, meanwhile ford is still trying to overcome technical hurtles.
I own a Model 3 and the worshipers creep me out to no end. Amazing car but the company has issues... just like every company does.
Ugh culties are just creepy no matter what.
Sure, let's get pedantic - I guess my point is I know a lot of folks who own Teslas (I live in silicon valley, where it is the official car). I only ever hear the cult worship from folks who are betting on Tesla stock (whether they own a car or not).
On the other hand, everyone who goes overboard on Apple worship seems to own Apple products, and most of them don't own stock.
That’s not the issue Ford has been facing at all. It’s just chip shortages at this point. Big companies like Ford have that generally figured out because they can afford an R&D team that doesn’t get poached every two minutes.
That’s not the issue Ford has been facing at all. It’s just chip shortages at this point. Big companies like Ford have that generally figured out because they can afford an R&D team that doesn’t get poached every two minutes.
So they have engineers that bypass chip shortages?
Last I saw was Ford, GM, other big players suffering greatly from chip shortages with the only light at the end of the tunnel being once silicon production increased. These weren't cutting edge chips either, but more boring components that went inside transmissions, etc.
I guess it is who you know. I own the products and stock of both companies. And most people I know that own Tesla stock also own Tesla vehicles and/or solar products. (I live just outside the Valley in the East Bay).
Ok. But I assume most people you know who own Apple products do not own Apple stock?
If so, then you should still get the gist of my point.
It's a smart business move, IMO. Right now, we don't have much of a charging infrastructure. The nacient Tesla network is the closest thing right now. If they open up the Supercharger network, they can get everyone else to adopt the Tesla connector. Close their network and the automakers might band together and come up with an industry standard Level 3 charger connection.
Remember what happened with the battle between USB and FireWire. The standard everyone else uses won.
I'm sure he's looking at this as another revenue stream, given the potential accounting woes that Tesla faces.
He says a lot of things. Apparently FSD is right around the corner...still.
Elon is a grifter, maybe the best grifter of our time. Have to respect that skill.
I don’t know what Nebraska’s current laws are. In the past the utility wasn’t required to pay you for power that you put on the grid. You could save by not using utility electricity but you couldn’t get paid if you put power back onto the grid.
Laws were changed when a couple of new people were elected to the board (our power is a public utility, in most of the state) and both Google and Facebook were interested in building data centers in Omaha but solar and wind power were both actively discouraged. Both Google and Facebook said if they can’t generate electricity to cut their electric bill then Nebraska could kiss those data centers goodbye. I know that windmills are now acceptable but I don’t know about solar, especially for homeowners.
I don’t know if small homeowners were included when they rewrote the laws.