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There have been a ton of problems with the MCUs, primarily. Also the touch screen turns yellow and requires a UV light treatment to re-cure the adhesive, and the problem reoccurs.
The MCU issues were the model s years ago. Tesla was dumb with that one for sure. Logging everything to cheap emmc nand. The cure issue I’ve not seen at this time. Honestly though I’d love to see every issue ever fixed to the point no issue exists again, but I don’t see that happening with any car manufacturer. Ford has terrible issues with some transmissions, turbos, etc.

Let’s hope we can get to a point where all problems are solved.
 
The MCU issues were the model s years ago. Tesla was dumb with that one for sure. Logging everything to cheap emmc nand. The cure issue I’ve not seen at this time. Honestly though I’d love to see every issue ever fixed to the point no issue exists again, but I don’t see that happening with any car manufacturer. Ford has terrible issues with some transmissions, turbos, etc.

Let’s hope we can get to a point where all problems are solved.
It’s not just the EMMC issue - I’ve had my entire MCU replaced due to other problems (which ended up being a good thing for me since I get fresh flash, an LTE upgrade, etc.)

I’ve had far more issues with my Tesla than with any car I’ve owned other than my Boxster.
 
All the Germans. Ford. Toyota. Honda.

You think those guys are clueless on how to proceed with electric? BMW made 3X the profit of Tesla. Electric is still a small market relative to the overall auto market.

Tesla ONLY makes electric cars. 95% of all car purchases are still with internal combustion engines, so other manufacturers are serving that demand while developing the electric tech. Ford is doing it, BMW, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, etc.

As I mentioned, the Taycan is already a better Model S and Porsche did that as a hobby. And don't talk to me about range, because range is still a problem for all electric vehicles because they can't be charged as fast as filling the tank. That is why the tech is still not ready and isn't being adopted at a large scale.
Remove Toyota. They are stuck in 2005, waiting for hydrogen car technology to mature, which is why they didn't grab the lead in BEV's when they had more experience than anyone else. Check again in 10 years, listen to their explanation about how close it is, then check back again in another 10 years.
 
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I enjoy the drive, but I am not an enthusiast by any means. What are the dependability issues you're speaking of? Of the people I have spoken with that have owned them for years, they have been less on maintenance and repair than their gasoline vehicles.

I know there have been failures with some Model S's drive units, but I have not heard of anything more recent that were major failure parts.

The reality though is I find the car to be more convenient than my gasoline cars. For 99% of my driving (one long trip to my office once a week, 256 miles round trip) I can do it on a single charge. That means the time spent "filling" up the car disappears. By the next day I am back to "full" (80% is what I charge to for normal around town driving). It has changed my driving experience for the better.
Read about JD power VDS. It’s a respected industry report and 4th to last is really bad.

It’s not surprising Tesla just isn’t as good at building cars as Toyota, BMW or Porsche. They haven’t built cars very long or built nearly as many. Electric cars will be the future, but many more than Tesla will make them. That’s what I’ve been saying. Tesla has a dominant position in a tiny market that others don’t care about much since literally 99% of cars sold today are gasoline Or diesel powered.

Compeition is coming and it will be fierce. Tesla is missing its opportunity to be profitable and extend its lead. It’s shocking how close the Ford Mach E on their first try and that the Taycan is already better in several ways, including speed, quality, looks, interior, etc.
 
Remove Toyota. They are stuck in 2005, waiting for hydrogen car technology to mature, which is why they didn't grab the lead in BEV's when they had more experience than anyone else. Check again in 10 years, listen to their explanation about how close it is, then check back again in another 10 years.
Boring as they may be, Toyota makes bulletproof cars and will be an EV player if only bc their manufacturing prowess will enable them to quickly ramp it.
 
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All the Germans. Ford. Toyota. Honda.

You think those guys are clueless on how to proceed with electric? BMW made 3X the profit of Tesla. Electric is still a small market relative to the overall auto market.

Tesla ONLY makes electric cars. 95% of all car purchases are still with internal combustion engines, so other manufacturers are serving that demand while developing the electric tech. Ford is doing it, BMW, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, etc.

As I mentioned, the Taycan is already a better Model S and Porsche did that as a hobby. And don't talk to me about range, because range is still a problem for all electric vehicles because they can't be charged as fast as filling the tank. That is why the tech is still not ready and isn't being adopted at a large scale.
"Don't talk to me about range" cause the range sucks on the Taycan. I don't think they're clueless, but I take it as a bad sign that Tesla beat them to so many electric car milestones despite starting from nothing. It's as if they didn't even start thinking about EVs until Tesla was already mass marketing the first Model S.
 
I don't buy it, considering GMC and Chevy are super far apart despite being basically the same cars with different seat options. Honda and Acura have more differences but also shouldn't be that far apart. And there's no way Honda is less reliable than Porsche of all things.

Dunno about Tesla reliability, but I know it's very hard to fix things. Particularly quarter panel windows if someone breaks into your car.
 
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Read about JD power VDS. It’s a respected industry report and 4th to last is really bad.

It’s not surprising Tesla just isn’t as good at building cars as Toyota, BMW or Porsche. They haven’t built cars very long or built nearly as many. Electric cars will be the future, but many more than Tesla will make them. That’s what I’ve been saying. Tesla has a dominant position in a tiny market that others don’t care about much since literally 99% of cars sold today are gasoline Or diesel powered.

Compeition is coming and it will be fierce. Tesla is missing its opportunity to be profitable and extend its lead. It’s shocking how close the Ford Mach E on their first try and that the Taycan is already better in several ways, including speed, quality, looks, interior, etc.
You're telling him to read the reviews as if it'll change his mind about a car he owns and has had zero problems with. Reminds me of Consumer Reports telling me to return my iPhone 4.
 
This is the same nonsense I hear each time someone doesn't like Tesla.

What you think is ugly, someone else thinks looks good (my wife and I both like our Model 3).
Poorly made? We haven't seen that to this point, let me guess .. body panel gaps? You're listening way too much to the internet.
Too long to charge? Where? I plug in at home (like any other EV will) and by morning I am back to the normal level I keep it at. On the road? Superchargers take care of me within 15-20 minutes.

I'll gladly take it over a gas powered car, I spend far less time "fueling" up my car than I did with my gas engine vehicles.

It's okay if you don't like Tesla, I couldn't care less. But at least be honest about things.
Nah, looks are objective, and Teslas look about as good as the competition now. This wasn't the case, but then Tesla refined their designs, BMW started taking the grille parodies seriously, and Mercedes decided to make slugs.

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I'm forced to a admit that the front is not too bad, but in my clunky ole ICE machine, I'm all too used to see their horrific backside.
 
"Don't talk to me about range" cause the range sucks on the Taycan. I don't think they're clueless, but I take it as a bad sign that Tesla beat them to so many electric car milestones despite starting from nothing. It's as if they didn't even start thinking about EVs until Tesla was already mass marketing the first Model S.
Whether is 200 or 300 mile range, electric cars have a range problem. Give me the Taycan.

Car and Driver tested the Taycan and Model S and said the “real world” range was only a 10 mile difference in favor of the Tesla with the Taycan being faster, charging faster, having more consistent performance results, and looking better.

They also noted queues for high peak driving times for the Tesla network.
 
You're telling him to read the reviews as if it'll change his mind about a car he owns and has had zero problems with. Reminds me of Consumer Reports telling me to return my iPhone 4.
He asked. I know he’ll never return his car.
 
I don't buy it, considering GMC and Chevy are super far apart despite being basically the same cars with different seat options. Honda and Acura have more differences but also shouldn't be that far apart. And there's no way Honda is less reliable than Porsche of all things.

Dunno about Tesla reliability, but I know it's very hard to fix things. Particularly quarter panel windows if someone breaks into your car.
I gave you data. You can “buy” it or not, but JD Power isn’t a YouTube review. This is an industry standard with real data gathering methodology across multiple states and many owners.

Porsche is known as extremely reliable, for anyone who knows cars. They are bulletproof and extremely high quality cars. The Taycan vs Model S Car and Driver review highlights this by noting the Porsche could put up the quarter mile results consistently. You can literally launch a 911 until you're bored of it.

Honda has been dropping the ball lately, also well documented.
 
Porsche is known as extremely reliable, for anyone who knows cars. They are bulletproof and extremely high quality cars.

what? There wasn’t a year that went by when i wasn’t getting multiple thousand dollar repairs on my Boxster. The freaking engine block cracked in half a week before the extended warranty ended. The electrical system had tons of problems and constantly discharged the battery, even after multiple repairs at the dealer. The starter died. I finally got rid of it when smoke started pouring out of the back passenger side of the car because some part I can’t recall burned out.
 
Tesla delivered 500,000 cars in 2020. The worldwide car deliveries were almost 64,000,000, most of them had engines. Frankly, Tesla is already getting destroyed by cars with engines whether it be due to cost reasons or people not wanting electric cars or not wanting a Tesla because they are poorly made, ugly, and take too long to charge.

Tesla has fallen short of its own goals, pretty much consistently. $1B profit isn't going to get it done and again, not everyone wants to drive a Tesla. There WILL BE and are other electric options. I mentioned the Taycan on the high end, the Mach E on the lower end and many more coming. Car manufacturing is hard (As Tesla found out) and is fiercely competitive.

Tesla hasn't been able to turn their head start into significant profitability and has been riddled with its own delays, production problems, and cancellations.

You seem to think the game is over. This is just getting started. Tesla is a tiny, tiny auto manufacturer with under 1% of total deliveries worldwide.
you act like tesla been making cars for 20 years or longer, no duh tesla only making 500k as they still ramping up factories across the globe, as gov't mandate and policy for EV matures in the next 5-10 years, if tesla can overcome their production issues, that gap will close down. the demand for tesla is high, once the 4860 update come through, the demand will be even higher. sure there are quality issues, but i can overlook some panel gap as long as i don't have to mind the traffic.

look is subjective as others have mentioned, i think the taycan looks like hot garbage but you love it so thats that.

the mach-e isn't even worth mentioning, looks like ford got lazy with the design and just slapped couple inches in the panel to hop up from the coupe version. range is completely garbage, no one in their right mind would buy that if they have no way to charge it over night at their garage. not to mention "Ford’s Active Drive Assist is available on “prequalified sections of divided highways called Hands-Free Zones that make up over 100,000 miles of North American roads,” meanwhile tesla's FSD works pretty much anywhere, except india, not even the best AI can dodge that many cows on the road.

as for taycan, their estimated 278 range is a far cry from model S 400 estimate, with the new plaid coming in at 500, taycan can't touch tesla on that.

like i said prior, people buy tesla cause of the tech, their autopilot software is miles ahead of everyone else, their battery density and upcoming ones will gap the market, their new 3 piece stamp giga press will ensure high factory output, the game just getting started, tesla gonna eat into legacy auto's market slowly but surely.
 
what? There wasn’t a year that went by when i wasn’t getting multiple thousand dollar repairs on my Boxster. The freaking engine block cracked in half a week before the extended warranty ended. The electrical system had tons of problems and constantly discharged the battery, even after multiple repairs at the dealer. The starter died. I finally got rid of it when smoke started pouring out of the back passenger side of the car because some part I can’t recall burned out.
Sorry you had a bad experience, but at least the much larger sampler JD Powe disagrees. Porsche is known for quality.
 
Tesla CEO Elon Musk spent time sniping at Apple, reports CNBC. Musk criticized Apple's "walled garden"

this is rich coming from the grifter in chief. Ton of stories out there of Tesla refusing to sell parts to people or any third party repair place. Same exact philosophy as Apple except if your laptop dies you’re not out 40K.

i used to enjoy the musk sideshow until I saw first hand the sheer stupidity of an example of his “vision” the Vegas loop, an underground low speed Tesla track with rgb lights for Reddit soys to climax to that’s an order of magnitude dumber and more useless than any subway. Musk’s public initiatives are just midwit bait, pablum for the “I love science™” crowd. So much so that they must be fronts for three letter agency tech research.

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But then you have to realise that in much of what is considered open source its because Tesla were not the originators of it and quite possibly could not claim intellectual copyright on much of it anyway as many of the actual inventions took place in some cases centuries before Elon thought about it. EV's, rechargeable batteries, using pressured tubes for transport, etc. etc., could never be claimed by Tesla. Perhaps the self driving software could, but would anyone want to claim that?

Apple claimed rounded corners. Carpenters could claim that from before Jesus’s birth.
 
I’m sure if Apple builds cars they will use a different battery formulation. Every company and their leaders are a mix of good and bad. I wish Tesla would support Apple Music and wish Apple would allow the App Store to be more open. I’ll still buy a Tesla and MacBook because I think they are the best products on balance.
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Same guy that called British rescue workers in Thailand "pedos", just because they shot down his ridiculous mini submarine rescue plan. Freaking billionaire nut jobs.

Well that's to be expected after you insult someone by telling him to put his solution up his ass.
 
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