Tesla CEO Elon Musk Takes Shots at Apple During Earnings Call

[IamTimCook]

"They"? Rescue divers encouraged Elon to continue building the mini submarine.

The person you're defending is Vern Unsworth and if you've read the court documents, you'd know he was inserting himself into the situation only to sell the rights to the movie. He wanted other rescue divers "to suffer" for leaving him out of the loop.

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I’m not defending anyone here. I’m pointing out that Elon did throw a temper tantrum on Twitter and say this; not once but twice.
And the diver wanting him to build a sub is BS.
Hey Elon, design, build and ship us a mini sub to rescue these trapped divers. The real rescue divers wanted to get in their as quickly and safely as possible, and do their professional jobs; without some hair brain scheme from a kid billionaire.

“On Sunday, when a Twitter user pointed out that Musk was “calling the guy who found the children a pedo”, the billionaire responded: “Bet ya a signed dollar it’s true.”

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[sw1tcher]

I moved into Apple's "walled garden" in 2003 when I bought my first Mac. No regrets.

FYI, the Mac isn't in a walled garden. Users are still (for the time being) able to get apps outside of Apple's App Store.

 

[zakarhino]

Yes he literally is. They have plans to open up the supercharger network.

Which he just happened to decide to do right after Biden announces a new investment strategy into a US charging network with the requirement that the chargers be non-proprietary. Nothing new here, just him chasing the next round of taxpayer money to pump up his business as he's been doing for a decade.

 

[farewelwilliams]

And the diver wanting him to build a sub is BS.

Richard Stanton (one of the ACTUAL rescuers) urged Elon to continue "working on the capsule" while Vern was just standing around for photo ops.

If you're going to ignore this piece of evidence, there's nothing else for us to talk about.

 

[MowgliWolf]

Oh good
After the Intel Apple jibes dried up I did wonder who would kick off next lol
Time to get the pop corn out again

 

[TVreporter]

Seems bizarre he would throw those jabs in during an earnings call.

Any chance he’s getting some inside track or tips on Apple’s car project? After all many ex Tesla engineers there, maybe a few moles/spies among them?

But for those saying Musk’s days are numbered, let’s see what Apple rolls out (if anything) before we declare Tesla is dead.

If anything, more competition will spur better vehicles and hopefully reduce the price.

 

[zakarhino]

Do you realize just how much he has accomplished?

"accomplishing things" is a not a criteria for whether or not somebody is an honest broker or whether or not that person has anything of substance to say.

 

[EdT]

Well, I'm not sold on Tesla as an entertainment provider nor Apple as a car manufacturer. I think I will just let the two companies bash each other and see if anything worthwhile comes out of it. I have no need to root for either company as far as preferring one to the other right now, and the entertainment factor I used to get listening to companies bash each other has gone way down since it became pretty commonplace.

 

[Kabeyun]

So… no CarPlay soon?

Do you realize just how much he has accomplished?

He certainly has. He also has a big mouth that keeps getting him in trouble, from his Thai soccer team debacle to the SEC to his own board at Tesla. A man can be a visionary achiever and also be an arrogant ass. Just look at Steve Jobs.

 

[zakarhino]

He's been holding a grudge for years ever since he met Jobs and Jobs didn't know who he was.

 

[jsmith189]

A cough? Wow, peak humour there, Elon.

 

[EdT]

So… no CarPlay soon?

He certainly has. He also has a big mouth that keeps getting him in trouble, from his Thai soccer team debacle to the SEC to his own board at Tesla. A man can be a visionary achiever and also be an arrogant ass. Just look at Steve Jobs.

Big ego's seem to be a requirement for people considered pioneers and leaders in their field. I think that I wouldn't like a lot of famous inventors and discoverers if I had met them.

 

[cmaier]

A cough? Wow, peak humour there, Elon.

This is the same guy who put a fart app in the cars he makes, so… yeah.

 

[rp100]

Wall garden you say? So is he saying that Tesla will let me plug my Chevy Bolt in at a Tesla Supercharger?

yes, as long as you don't charge it above 90%.

 

[zakarhino]

So… no CarPlay soon?

He certainly has. He also has a big mouth that keeps getting him in trouble, from his Thai soccer team debacle to the SEC to his own board at Tesla. A man can be a visionary achiever and also be an arrogant ass. Just look at Steve Jobs.

Don't award him the accomplishment of a "visionary" when nothing he's produced so far at either of his companies is visionary in the slightest. Fundamentally speaking Tesla has not done anything to shift the technological paradigm as EVs are an old technology and concept (as are re-usable rockets, the engineering concept was drawn up by an academic 60 years ago and prototypes were built 30 years ago), not to mention it's just a different form of powering the same four wheeled type vehicles we've all been using for 100+ years. When we switched to a Tesla our transportation experience was fundamentally unchanged except now we had to worry about range anxiety.

On the other hand Jobs was one of the people at the forefront of ubiquitous mainstream consumer electronics. Apple is one of the vessels responsible for introducing the average person to the digital and connected realm. Smartphones have been a complete undeniable paradigm shift that has permanently changed the way society works (for better or for worse) in so many dimensions.

 

[dogslobber]

Slam AAPL will get TSLA's Musk noticed again. I think this character doesn't like not being in the limelight. I might be a big critic of AAPL but TSLA is built on sand.

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

I'd probably have a Tesla if they had CarPlay on it. Open that platform Elon.

You have that backwards. Tesla uses the open standards available on all phones to facilitate communications between the car and phone. So Tesla has all the code for sending and receiving audio over bluetooth and they don't care what device is actually connected on the other side. They also use the open standards for sending and receiving text messages - again, it doesn't matter whether your phone is Apple, Android, Backberry, Microsoft, etc, whatever - if it complies with the standards, it works.

If Tesla is going to make CarPlay work, then Apple should publish an open standard that everyone can use.

But honestly, go to a Tesla store, pair one of the display cars with your phone, and tell me that CarPlay offers anything that the car doesn't already do better. You can already call or text anyone from the car. It'll both read and display text messages on the screen, vs CarPlay which only reads them. The car has Spotify, Podcasts, and plenty of other audio apps built in. It also has Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, and other video streaming apps. Plus a web browser able to use video conferencing programs.

Honestly, asking to use CarPlay in a Tesla is kind of like asking to use CarPlay on a Mac. Why? The Mac already has native apps to do everything that the iPhone can do, and then some.

 

[QCassidy352]

Both companies are great, and both stocks have been very good to me. Definitely rooting for both to continue succeeding.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Don't award him the accomplishment of a "visionary" when nothing he's produced so far at either of his companies is visionary in the slightest. Fundamentally speaking Tesla has not done anything to shift the technological paradigm as EVs are an old technology and concept (as are re-usable rockets, the engineering concept was drawn up by an academic 60 years ago and prototypes were built 30 years ago), not to mention it's just a different form of powering the same four wheeled type vehicles we've all been using for 100+ years. When we switched to a Tesla our transportation experience was fundamentally unchanged except now we had to worry about range anxiety.

On the other hand Jobs was one of the people at the forefront of ubiquitous mainstream consumer electronics. Apple is one of the vessels responsible for introducing the average person to the digital and connected realm. Smartphones have been a complete undeniable paradigm shift that has permanently changed the way society works (for better or for worse) in so many dimensions.

integrated EV (with OTA firmware updates) + solar roof + home battery is 100% a visionary-led project.

 

[zakarhino]

You have that backwards. Tesla uses the open standards available on all phones to facilitate communications between the car and phone. So Tesla has all the code for sending and receiving audio over bluetooth and they don't care what device is actually connected on the other side. They also use the open standards for sending and receiving text messages - again, it doesn't matter whether your phone is Apple, Android, Backberry, Microsoft, etc, whatever - if it complies with the standards, it works.

If Tesla is going to make CarPlay work, then Apple should publish an open standard that everyone can use.

But honestly, go to a Tesla store, pair one of the display cars with your phone, and tell me that CarPlay offers anything that the car doesn't already do better. You can already call or text anyone from the car. It'll both read and display text messages on the screen, vs CarPlay which only reads them. The car has Spotify, Podcasts, and plenty of other audio apps built in. It also has Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, and other video streaming apps. Plus a web browser able to use video conferencing programs.

Honestly, asking to use CarPlay in a Tesla is kind of like asking to use CarPlay on a Mac. Why? The Mac already has native apps to do everything that the iPhone can do, and then some.

Here's some things CarPlay can do that Tesla's infotainment system can't:

1. Native integration with my phone so can I access notifications
2. I can open my preferred music streaming service instead of Spotify. The basic bluetooth connection sucks because I still have to use my phone to browse music which is a lot more dangerous (not to mention illegal) than using CarPlay's adjusted UI.
3. I can use my preferred navigation system such as Waze or Apple Maps
4. I can use Siri instead of Tesla's extremely limited voice assistant
5. All of the above runs off of my phone and not Tesla's infotainment so there's an extra layer of privacy in some limited aspects

Tesla's infotainment is the best on the market (at the very least in terms of raw performance) but I still really really want CarPlay and the car is not complete without it.

 

[liberte1776]

So it’s OK for Musk to be a jerk because Tim Cook didn’t take a meeting with him once?

Have they ever met?

 

[liberte1776]

Not sure if Elon is scared or jealous of Apple.

Telsa wait till Apple releases new Apple Car. Sky’s the limit. Enjoy your fame while you can.

Sky is not the limit, Musk plans Mars soon! Haven't seen an Apple Rocket rumor yet...

 

[psimac]

Keep something else in mind: Tesla makes up ~80% of market share in a segment that is 2% of the overall automobile market in the USA (and even less worldwide). They're a little company that gets a lot of free press often because of Musk's shenanigans. Volkswagen sells more cars in a day than Tesla sells in a month. Volkswagen's market share isn't shrinking.

My thesis has been for years that while Tesla currently shares a technological advantage, their arrogance will get the best of them when the "dinosaur" carmakers overtake them. The forces are just too great and Tesla's shortcomings will continue to be exposed as people realize there are other options. I want Tesla to succeed as America's great automotive success story but I think Tesla will grow up to be a niche player unless they pull the impossible and come out with a 300-mile range, sub-$20k car, or something.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Which he just happened to decide to do right after Biden announces a new investment strategy into a US charging network with the requirement that the chargers be non-proprietary. Nothing new here, just him chasing the next round of taxpayer money to pump up his business as he's been doing for a decade.

wrong.

2018 "This is not a walled garden.":

Tesla might let other companies use its Supercharger network

Tesla CEO Elon Musk said he'd be fine with other companies using the supercharger network if they paid for it.

www.cnet.com

We get it, you hate Tesla. Don't have to distort the facts to suit your agenda though.

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

Here's some things CarPlay can do that Tesla's infotainment system can't:

1. Native integration with my phone so can I access notifications
2. I can open my preferred music streaming service instead of Spotify. The basic bluetooth connection sucks because I still have to use my phone to browse music which is a lot more dangerous (not to mention illegal) than using CarPlay's adjusted UI.
3. I can use my preferred navigation system such as Waze or Apple Maps
4. I can use Siri instead of Tesla's extremely limited voice assistant
5. All of the above runs off of my phone and not Tesla's infotainment so there's an extra layer of privacy in some limited aspects

Tesla's infotainment is the best on the market (at the very least in terms of raw performance) but I still really really want CarPlay and the car is not complete without it.

Waze actually runs pretty nice in my Model 3 right now. The latest update made it so the next step moves over to the left side of the screen whenever the browser is up, so I can have the native navigation going at the same time as the Waze update tells me about stuff on the road ahead.

I’m curious what you want to do with Siri. Tesla’s voice commands strike me as many times more useful than Siri, although I’ll give you that Siri can be extended by third party apps while that’s not yet a thing for Tesla’s voice command system.