Elon lied when he said it was a solved problem in 2016.only missing piece is self driving
once Tesla solves that, there's nothing left for Apple to possibly take.
Elon lied when he said it was a solved problem in 2016.only missing piece is self driving
once Tesla solves that, there's nothing left for Apple to possibly take.
Don't award him the accomplishment of a "visionary" when nothing he's produced so far at either of his companies is visionary in the slightest. Fundamentally speaking Tesla has not done anything to shift the technological paradigm as EVs are an old technology and concept (as are re-usable rockets, the engineering concept was drawn up by an academic 60 years ago and prototypes were built 30 years ago), not to mention it's just a different form of powering the same four wheeled type vehicles we've all been using for 100+ years. When we switched to a Tesla our transportation experience was fundamentally unchanged except now we had to worry about range anxiety.
On the other hand Jobs was one of the people at the forefront of ubiquitous mainstream consumer electronics. Apple is one of the vessels responsible for introducing the average person to the digital and connected realm. Smartphones have been a complete undeniable paradigm shift that has permanently changed the way society works (for better or for worse) in so many dimensions.
Also, solar shingles and semis?Where’s the roadster and cyber truck?
And? People aren't allowed to look for another job when the company they work for looks like it is going to go belly up?Tim Cook has been poaching Tesla engineers during when Tesla was almost bankrupt.
I charge my iPhone using the same USB charger I use for all my other devices.Yet their phones don't.
Also, solar shingles and semis?
Elon isn’t someone to idolize.
Tesla is more anti right to repair than Apple, talk about being walled in.
Did we forget the two years we all spent wondering where AirTags were? How about that AirPower?
Do you have evidence of his pedophilia? Because that kinda looked like Musk was acting out like the world's richest 8 year old.Richard Stanton (one of the ACTUAL rescuers) urged Elon to continue "working on the capsule" while Vern was just standing around for photo ops.
If you're going to ignore this piece of evidence, there's nothing else for us to talk about.
I think April 17th, 2019 was when we first started hearing about them. Unofficially, of course, but that's still about 2 years prior to launch. I remember contemplating getting a Tile and deciding to wait because I was sold on the idea that a first-party solution would be better.Did apple announce airtags two years before they released them? If not, why were you waiting?
Same thing that’s been said every year since 2013, yet Tesla keeps multiplying its sales every quarter.You mean the charging they are going to share?
Ford estimates 300 mi range, Tesla estimates model Y at 303. This is Ford’s first try at a mass market truck. Pretty close. And cheaper. Ford makes many, many more cars than Tesla and knows how to push volume.
There are many competent and better car manufacturers than Tesla. For one, Tesla has crap quality and crap build quality. Panels don’t even line up. Studies have shown Tesla is well below industry average in dependability. They are also expensive and take too long to charge. Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Audi are more desirable and Toyota and Honda are a lot more reliable. All of the competitors I listed are better manufacturers than Tesla too.
Competition will get even more serious about electric cars when the tech is ready. It currently has too many downsides over non-electric vehicles to be ready for prime time.
Porsche has already made a Model S competitor and it’s already better in several ways, particularly quality. The Ford Mach E is better in some ways than the Tesla Model Y and is already close in range and every day performance.
You think everyone is going to drive a Tesla or that other manufacturers won’t figure out how to sell electric vehicles? It’s still a pretty small market and the competition is only beginning. The Taycan and the Mach E are 2 examples of cars already compelling and they are just getting started. The E Tron from Audi is another.
Tesla just made $1.1B in profit in their most recent quarter, a record But almost 35% of its profit is selling energy credits, not selling cars. BMW made almost $3B in their most recent quarter, but trades at 1/10th the valuation.
Tesla needs to be way ahead and their runway is already ending.
It’s not Elon, who is not wanting to be open for CarPlay, it’s Apple who wants license fees from Tesla with their non-sense MFi cert.I'd probably have a Tesla if they had CarPlay on it. Open that platform Elon.
The valuation more than accounts for it.Same thing that’s been said every year since 2013, yet Tesla keeps multiplying its sales every quarter.
A guy conquering the outer space and pushing the humanity forward being jealous or scared of a dumb gadget manufacturer who just keeps puzzling on OS UI’s and reinventing the wheel over and over again? Heh 🤣 good joke!Not sure if Elon is scared or jealous of Apple.
Telsa wait till Apple releases new Apple Car. Sky’s the limit. Enjoy your fame while you can.
Something about stones and glass houses......
Cook is a better CEO than Musk and has created far more shareholder value, just FYI. Cook is a monster…don’t underestimate him. His results speak for themselves. Your “lazy” critique of Apple is just your opinion. Apple is kicking ass and is the envy of the business world.Yes, but this is simply something that Tim Cook is not good at. He will have no response. His reply will be silence. And Elon Musk just kicks ass as usual and will fly into space soon. It reminds me of Steve Jobs vs. Bill Gates. Gates had tons of respect for Jobs, and they both used each other in different court cases for various reasons, but Jobs just sheepishly credited Gates with his accomplishments and Gates ate it up. But Gates actually said WHY he liked Steve Jobs and I could understand why, all the things Gates did NOT think of but instead stole. Gates was like that creepy guy that glanced at your homework before you had to go to class. And a smart person knew Jobs didn't really like him at all. Tim Cook is set for life. Tim Cook's Apple reminds me of INTEL, lazy.![]()
What has Musk actually done to conquer space? 😂A guy conquering the outer space and pushing the humanity forward being jealous of a dumb gadget manufacturer who just keeps puzzling on OS UI’s and reinventing the wheel over and over again? Heh 🤣 good joke!
True, Cook is a monster 🤣, a wallet devouring monster. I can see all these small sweet wallets running away from Cook, and Cook stomping behind them, trying to catch them in slow motion. He shall join Monsters Inc. and get an own door.Cook is a better CEO than Musk and has created far more shareholder value, just FYI. Cook is a monster…don’t underestimate him. His results speak for themselves. Your “lazy” critique of Apple is just your opinion. Apple is kicking ass and is the envy of the business world.
Found the exit of your cave?What has Musk actually done to conquer space? 😂
There are reportedly no licensing fees for either CarPlay or Android Auto.It’s not Elon, who is not wanting to be open for CarPlay, it’s Apple who wants license fees from Tesla, just like with their non-sense MFi cert.
lol of course they do. Depending of the MFi device they want fixed $ costs or % of sales per device. CarPlay belongs to Apple Mafia(MFi) licensing program which you have to enroll, negotiate and sign a NDA.There are reportedly no licensing fees for either CarPlay or Android Auto.
It is more likely because Tesla still considers the console experience to be a competitive differentiator, and doesn't want to have people relegated to a third party app. AFAIK Tesla does not have an open App Store (e.g. its a stricter walled garden than Apple's)
It may also have been mapping related for a while; Tesla's route system is designed specifically to keep you within range of a charging station and to be quite vocal as you start to risk being stranded. Last year Apple added EV routing to maps (and made it automatic when connected to CarPlay), so thats no longer the excuse.